more shenanigans by the Trump Organization ?

The ignorant racist clueless uneducated rednecks love their cartoon President lol n omg n wtf.

Firstly, Devin Nunes is pretty clueless. I could care less what he said. Doesn’t he work for Trump. Hell he worked for Trump while in congress.

Once again, it’s clear you lack any understanding of what Durham claims they were doing. What Fox says they were doing differs from the actual allegation. In fact, Fox was immediately debunked right after they reported on the filing.

The data that was being mined was publicly accessed data that went back to the Obama administration. The DNS traffic information was being tracked subject to contract and was accessed. It wasn’t spying in any form.

Nothing was hacked or stolen. The data was ahared from the White House and the ISP on a regular basis to detect possible illicit online activity since 2015. The data was being examined by a university researcher and Sussman just accessed that data. The information was DNS lookups and domain logs shared openly and given to then. It’s data collected to check for people going to sites they aren’t supposed to.

So to claim some spying occurred is simply a lie. But I’d not expect anything better since folks on this site is said “facts aren’t facts” and “you get to facts by discussing both sides even if they are full of lies.” Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Spying is the only word lack minded trumptards can understand. If you get any more detailed than that their feeble minds explode.

Spying is the only word lack minded trumptards can understand. If you get any more detailed than that their feeble minds explode. Originally Posted by CaptainTruth

if you say so

... Liberal lads... pissing themselves and sitting in the tacker.

All cryin' about the spyin'...

#### Salty

Mr. Cartoon man speaks but says nothing.

Since you again brought up the stock market, I did make $ 7,000 today day trading Viacom. It's something you just can't let go of.

What is it you are attempting to say ?


Mr. Sayso or Mr. Cartoon man.....which is it going to be ?

Mr. Cartoon man speaks but says nothing.


Since you again brought up the stock market, I did make $ 7,000 today day trading Viacom. It's something you just can't let go of.



What is it you are attempting to say ? Originally Posted by VitaMan

Ill say it for him!

" If you say so"! bahahahahahhahahahahahaha

Ill say it for him!

" If you say so"! bahahahahahhahahahahahaha Originally Posted by winn dixie

i'm TWK and i double liked this post. because i can.

For starters, Trump University. A complete scam.



There are dozens more, maybe hundreds more. Originally Posted by VitaMan

1. Trump Airlines
In 1988, Trump took out a $245 million loan to purchase the planes and routes of Eastern Air Shuttle. He slapped a TRUMP decal and some gold bathroom fixtures on the commuter planes that flew between New York, Boston and Washington, D.C., but customers weren’t charmed. Two years after he launched Trump Shuttle, the airline wasn’t making enough money to even cover the $1 million monthly interest payment on his loan. Trump ultimately defaulted, surrendering ownership of the airline to his creditors.

2. Trump beverages
Perhaps you’re aware of Trump Ice — “one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world,” according to the Trump’s website. The line of water, which is bottled by a third party, is not a failure; according to his FEC disclosure, Trump made $280,000 off it last year. But Trump’s other forays into the beverage market have been less successful. Undoubtedly intended to play on his Apprentice catchphrase, Trump Fire was trademarked in 2004, but it does not appear to have ever made it to market. Trump trademarked the name Trump Power at the same time. Both drinks were categorized as “non-alcoholic beverages containing fruit juices… namely, carbonated beverages” on their trademark applications. The only trace remaining of either are the trademark applications that were abandoned in 2006. The same goes for Trump’s American Pale Ale, the trademark for which was cancelled in 2007.

3. Trump: The Game
In 1988, Trump teamed up with Milton Bradley to create Trump: The Game. Despite its flashy TV ad, the game sold only 800,000 copies — less than half the 2 million units the company expected to move. When it was discontinued in 1990, Trump chalked the game’s dismal sales up to the fact that it might have been “too complicated.” The failure apparently didn’t deter Hasbro from releasing a re-branded version of the game in 2004 to capitalize on Trump’s Apprentice-related popularity. Trump said he expected the Hasbro version of his game to sell more copies than the original, but it too quickly went out of circulation.

4. Trump casinos
Trump has filed for bankruptcy on his Atlantic City properties alone three times. First was the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991 — which was $3 billion in debt after just one year in operation. He was back in bankruptcy court in 2004, and not just for the Trump Taj Mahal but for the Trump Marina and Trump Plaza casinos, which along with a riverboat casino in Indiana had a debt burden of some $1.8 billion. After the bankruptcy, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts reorganized as Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc. Four years later, Trump Entertainment Resorts missed an interest payment on a $53.1 million bond; the company declared bankruptcy, and this time Trump stepped down as its chairman.

5. Trump magazine
Trump launched his eponymous magazine in late 2007, reinventing a publication that had previously been called Trump Style and Trump World. His idea was to “[cash] in on the booming advertising market for yachts and other high-end commodities.” The timing, of course, couldn’t have been worse for a magazine, particularly one dependent on luxury advertising. It didn’t survive the financial crisis, folding by 2009.

6. Trump Mortgage
“I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company,” Trump famously predicted to CNBC in April 2006. “The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come.” In reality, the market had already begun deflating at that point and would collapse within a matter of months. Unsurprisingly, Trump Mortgage’s business fell far short of its projections, doing less than a third of the $3 billion in business executives predicted it would to do in its first year. At the time, Trump blamed the failure on the executives who run the company. He had tapped E.J. Ridings for the company’s CEO position; the company’s website boasted Ridings as having been a “top executive of one of Wall Street’s most prestigious investment banks,” but Money Magazine later found he had just six months of experience as a stockbroker before he went to work a small mortgage company. Trump Mortgage shuttered in September 2007. According to the Washington Post, the company never paid a $298,274 judgement it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.

7. Trump Steaks
When Trump filed for bankruptcy on his Atlantic City properties for the second of three times, court records showed he owed the Georgia company Buckhead Beef some $715,240. Two years later, in 2007, Trump struck a deal sell Buckhead Beef through the futuristic gadget store the Sharper Image. CEO Jerry Levin would later tell ThinkProgress it was “a bad business idea.”

“[W]e literally sold almost no steaks,” Levin said. “If we sold $50,000 of steaks grand total, I’d be surprised.” The steaks were pulled from shelves after just two months of abysmal sales, but the Trump Steaks commercial has, blessedly, been preserved for posterity.

8. Trump’s travel site
Like many of his business ventures, GoTrump.com was a gaudier version of an existing product — the travel booking website Travelocity, in this case. It launched in 2006 to low expectations: Henry Harteveldt of Forrester Research told the Washington Post it was a “vanity site” that wouldn’t make much money. He was right; it folded in 2007. Trump never gave up the URL, though — today it directs back to his campaign website.

9. Trump’s comms company
Trump registered a trademark for Trumpnet under the category of “corporate telephone communication services” in 1990. Whatever it was going to be, it never got off the ground; the trademark was abandoned in 1992.

10. Trump Tower Tampa
The 52-story Trump Tower in Tampa wasn’t conceived of or proposed or drafted up by Donald Trump — he just sold the use of his name to developers of the $300 million condo project for a cool $2 million. They, in turn, collected downpayments from individual buyers drawn in by the Trump mystique. After the project went belly-up in 2008 (it listed two scale models and some office furniture, worth a grand total of $3,500, as its only assets in bankruptcy court) buyers sued Trump for misleading them. He eventually settled, in some cases for as little as $11,115, with plaintiffs who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

11. Trump University
Also known at the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, Trump University was a series of wealth-building seminars for which students paid as much as $34,995 for mentorships that would supposedly get them access to Trump’s secrets of success. Instead of the hand-picked instructors Trump promised, the seminars were delivered by motivational speakers, often without degrees, and sometimes with criminal records. According to his FEC filings, Trump brought in $11,819 from the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative last year; he’s now the subject of two class-action lawsuits in California related to Trump University, and a third suit, for $40 million, brought by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

12. Trump Vodka
Trump Vodka — “Success Distilled,” to quote its press materials — appeared in 2006. Trump said at the time, “I fully expect the most called for cocktail in America to be the T&T or the Trump and Tonic.” The liquor flopped, maybe in part because of Trump’s reputation as a teetotaler didn’t inspire a lot of confidence in his taste in hard alcohol. The trademark was abandoned in 2008, and the liquor was out of circulation by 2011.

13. Lost future earnings from calling Mexicans rapists
Trump kissed millions of dollars in future earnings goodbye last summer when he called Mexicans rapists and criminals in his campaign announcement speech. “Yeah, I’m losing some contracts, who cares, people – politically they’re weak and they want to be politically correct,” he said at the time.

For instance, he was dumped by NBC, the home of Trump’s beloved Apprentice franchise. According to his FEC fillings, Trump brought in some $213 million over 14 seasons of the franchise, or about $15.2 million per cycle. He had left the door open to return to Celebrity Apprentice, but NBC eventually announced it was finding a new host.

Then there were Trump’s cologne brands, Success by Trump and Empire by Trump, which were sold exclusively by Macy’s until both the retailer and the cologne maker dropped the mogul. (Unfortunately for Trump, he didn’t have that excuse in 2007, when Donald Trump: The Fragrance — his first foray into the market — was discontinued.)

Likewise, Macy’s discontinued Trump’s line of menswear, which it had carried for 11 years. According to his financial disclosure, it brought in between $1 million and $5 million — not the kind of money a man who once cashed a 16-cent check would spit at.

And Serta announced it would stop selling its Trump-branded mattress, which, according to Trump’s FEC filings, brought in another $1 million and $5 million in royalties every year

1. Trump Airlines
In 1988, Trump took out a $245 million loan to purchase the planes and routes of Eastern Air Shuttle. He slapped a TRUMP decal and some gold bathroom fixtures on the commuter planes that flew between New York, Boston and Washington, D.C., but customers weren’t charmed. Two years after he launched Trump Shuttle, the airline wasn’t making enough money to even cover the $1 million monthly interest payment on his loan. Trump ultimately defaulted, surrendering ownership of the airline to his creditors.

2. Trump beverages
Perhaps you’re aware of Trump Ice — “one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world,” according to the Trump’s website. The line of water, which is bottled by a third party, is not a failure; according to his FEC disclosure, Trump made $280,000 off it last year. But Trump’s other forays into the beverage market have been less successful. Undoubtedly intended to play on his Apprentice catchphrase, Trump Fire was trademarked in 2004, but it does not appear to have ever made it to market. Trump trademarked the name Trump Power at the same time. Both drinks were categorized as “non-alcoholic beverages containing fruit juices… namely, carbonated beverages” on their trademark applications. The only trace remaining of either are the trademark applications that were abandoned in 2006. The same goes for Trump’s American Pale Ale, the trademark for which was cancelled in 2007.

3. Trump: The Game
In 1988, Trump teamed up with Milton Bradley to create Trump: The Game. Despite its flashy TV ad, the game sold only 800,000 copies — less than half the 2 million units the company expected to move. When it was discontinued in 1990, Trump chalked the game’s dismal sales up to the fact that it might have been “too complicated.” The failure apparently didn’t deter Hasbro from releasing a re-branded version of the game in 2004 to capitalize on Trump’s Apprentice-related popularity. Trump said he expected the Hasbro version of his game to sell more copies than the original, but it too quickly went out of circulation.

4. Trump casinos
Trump has filed for bankruptcy on his Atlantic City properties alone three times. First was the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991 — which was $3 billion in debt after just one year in operation. He was back in bankruptcy court in 2004, and not just for the Trump Taj Mahal but for the Trump Marina and Trump Plaza casinos, which along with a riverboat casino in Indiana had a debt burden of some $1.8 billion. After the bankruptcy, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts reorganized as Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc. Four years later, Trump Entertainment Resorts missed an interest payment on a $53.1 million bond; the company declared bankruptcy, and this time Trump stepped down as its chairman.

5. Trump magazine
Trump launched his eponymous magazine in late 2007, reinventing a publication that had previously been called Trump Style and Trump World. His idea was to “[cash] in on the booming advertising market for yachts and other high-end commodities.” The timing, of course, couldn’t have been worse for a magazine, particularly one dependent on luxury advertising. It didn’t survive the financial crisis, folding by 2009.

6. Trump Mortgage
“I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company,” Trump famously predicted to CNBC in April 2006. “The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come.” In reality, the market had already begun deflating at that point and would collapse within a matter of months. Unsurprisingly, Trump Mortgage’s business fell far short of its projections, doing less than a third of the $3 billion in business executives predicted it would to do in its first year. At the time, Trump blamed the failure on the executives who run the company. He had tapped E.J. Ridings for the company’s CEO position; the company’s website boasted Ridings as having been a “top executive of one of Wall Street’s most prestigious investment banks,” but Money Magazine later found he had just six months of experience as a stockbroker before he went to work a small mortgage company. Trump Mortgage shuttered in September 2007. According to the Washington Post, the company never paid a $298,274 judgement it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.

7. Trump Steaks
When Trump filed for bankruptcy on his Atlantic City properties for the second of three times, court records showed he owed the Georgia company Buckhead Beef some $715,240. Two years later, in 2007, Trump struck a deal sell Buckhead Beef through the futuristic gadget store the Sharper Image. CEO Jerry Levin would later tell ThinkProgress it was “a bad business idea.”

“[W]e literally sold almost no steaks,” Levin said. “If we sold $50,000 of steaks grand total, I’d be surprised.” The steaks were pulled from shelves after just two months of abysmal sales, but the Trump Steaks commercial has, blessedly, been preserved for posterity.

8. Trump’s travel site
Like many of his business ventures, GoTrump.com was a gaudier version of an existing product — the travel booking website Travelocity, in this case. It launched in 2006 to low expectations: Henry Harteveldt of Forrester Research told the Washington Post it was a “vanity site” that wouldn’t make much money. He was right; it folded in 2007. Trump never gave up the URL, though — today it directs back to his campaign website.

9. Trump’s comms company
Trump registered a trademark for Trumpnet under the category of “corporate telephone communication services” in 1990. Whatever it was going to be, it never got off the ground; the trademark was abandoned in 1992.

10. Trump Tower Tampa
The 52-story Trump Tower in Tampa wasn’t conceived of or proposed or drafted up by Donald Trump — he just sold the use of his name to developers of the $300 million condo project for a cool $2 million. They, in turn, collected downpayments from individual buyers drawn in by the Trump mystique. After the project went belly-up in 2008 (it listed two scale models and some office furniture, worth a grand total of $3,500, as its only assets in bankruptcy court) buyers sued Trump for misleading them. He eventually settled, in some cases for as little as $11,115, with plaintiffs who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

11. Trump University
Also known at the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, Trump University was a series of wealth-building seminars for which students paid as much as $34,995 for mentorships that would supposedly get them access to Trump’s secrets of success. Instead of the hand-picked instructors Trump promised, the seminars were delivered by motivational speakers, often without degrees, and sometimes with criminal records. According to his FEC filings, Trump brought in $11,819 from the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative last year; he’s now the subject of two class-action lawsuits in California related to Trump University, and a third suit, for $40 million, brought by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

12. Trump Vodka
Trump Vodka — “Success Distilled,” to quote its press materials — appeared in 2006. Trump said at the time, “I fully expect the most called for cocktail in America to be the T&T or the Trump and Tonic.” The liquor flopped, maybe in part because of Trump’s reputation as a teetotaler didn’t inspire a lot of confidence in his taste in hard alcohol. The trademark was abandoned in 2008, and the liquor was out of circulation by 2011.

13. Lost future earnings from calling Mexicans rapists
Trump kissed millions of dollars in future earnings goodbye last summer when he called Mexicans rapists and criminals in his campaign announcement speech. “Yeah, I’m losing some contracts, who cares, people – politically they’re weak and they want to be politically correct,” he said at the time.

For instance, he was dumped by NBC, the home of Trump’s beloved Apprentice franchise. According to his FEC fillings, Trump brought in some $213 million over 14 seasons of the franchise, or about $15.2 million per cycle. He had left the door open to return to Celebrity Apprentice, but NBC eventually announced it was finding a new host.

Then there were Trump’s cologne brands, Success by Trump and Empire by Trump, which were sold exclusively by Macy’s until both the retailer and the cologne maker dropped the mogul. (Unfortunately for Trump, he didn’t have that excuse in 2007, when Donald Trump: The Fragrance — his first foray into the market — was discontinued.)

Likewise, Macy’s discontinued Trump’s line of menswear, which it had carried for 11 years. According to his financial disclosure, it brought in between $1 million and $5 million — not the kind of money a man who once cashed a 16-cent check would spit at.

And Serta announced it would stop selling its Trump-branded mattress, which, according to Trump’s FEC filings, brought in another $1 million and $5 million in royalties every year Originally Posted by CaptainTruth

none of these were scams. not even Trump University. i can find you dozens of "unaccredited universities" that failed. none were called scams.

You are staying up way past your bedtime. Possibly that is why you make statements like this.

none of these were scams. not even Trump University. i can find you dozens of "unaccredited universities" that failed. none were called scams. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

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Yet there he is, flying around in a private 757 and banging his supermodel wife in his gold plated Manhattan penthouse. It’s fun watching a bunch of slobbering losers he could buy literally a million times over bloviate about what a failure he is. There isn’t a guy here that could afford just the scheduled maintenance on his plane, let alone the rest of that lifestyle.

Yet there he is, flying around in a private 757 and banging his supermodel wife in his gold plated Manhattan penthouse. It’s fun watching a bunch of slobbering losers he could buy literally a million times over bloviate about what a failure he is. There isn’t a guy here that could afford just the scheduled maintenance on his plane, let alone the rest of that lifestyle. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

They couldn’t afford to be a member of his country clubs, let alone have the juice to get in.

Interesting.


Now the Trumpites are trying to turn the topic from "Is Trump a grease ball" to "Don't you want to be like Trump ?"




Bernie Madoff had a lot of stuff too....until they caught up with him.

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