Legitimate political discourse!

... Hmmmm.... YOU may not be wrong there, mate.

I was just giving me opinion.

#### Salty
One of them was an FBI agent that had gone off the reservation and was arrested for.
You make it seen as if they were sent by the government!
Otherwise you would not know about the guy being involved, he would not have been arrested in the first place if it were a government op!
Can anything just be what it is without the right gilding the lily?


... Conspiracy theories?? ... Now that's a royal joke.

Where you been? ... The CAUGHT the blokes involved with
the plot to "kidnap" Gov. Whitmer.

TWO of them were government agents. (DOJ)...

You must have missed that. ... AND Ray Epps.

### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
... No. Don't mis-understand... What I'm saying is that
the Gretchen Whitmer thing was a hoax... In the manner
of ... uh, you really used "off the reservation" that
makes me laugh... ... You're fine, but I'm laughing
that it's STILL I reckon acceptable use in society.
The politicians and news media use that phrase all the time.
Shouldn't it be considoured racist??
Indians and what-not? ... But it's okay.

Um... sorry there, mate... Where were we?
Ok ... what I'm saying is the "off the res" government bloke
and his mates prolly thought about staging a fake
"kidnapping plot" to actually make Gov. Whitmer a sympathetic
figure in the eyes of Michigan voters.

NOW those fellow in trouble for this are all sayin' that
it was all "just a mis-understanding."

... THAT was me point.

### Salty
... No. Don't mis-understand... What I'm saying is that
the Gretchen Whitmer thing was a hoax... In the manner
of ... uh, you really used "off the reservation" that
makes me laugh... ... You're fine, but I'm laughing
that it's STILL I reckon acceptable use in society.
The politicians and news media use that phrase all the time.
Shouldn't it be considoured racist??
Indians and what-not? ... But it's okay.

Um... sorry there, mate... Where were we?
Ok ... what I'm saying is the "off the res" government bloke
and his mates prolly thought about staging a fake
"kidnapping plot" to actually make Gov. Whitmer a sympathetic
figure in the eyes of Michigan voters.

NOW those fellow in trouble for this are all sayin' that
it was all "just a mis-understanding."

... THAT was me point.

### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
I cannot say what his motivation was, he had already broken FBI employment rules, by starting his own security firm w/o permission. Just like in the military you have soldiers that drink the right wing kool-aid so why not an fbi agent.
I am not going to play this conspiracy game I believe they were going to do what the government alleges he/they were going to do!
They went thorough, and are in alot of trouble, basically life as they knew it is over.
Just to make someone look sympathetic.
It dosent make sense.

Its actually is silly, think about it!
The 3 letter agencies use that term all of the time to describe an agent that went rogue!
And yes the reservation system was a racist system, brought about by the big land grabs.
And I don't need to tell you it means someone is out doing his own thing without authorisation, and causing trouble!

When Comanche went off the reservation, they caused a lot of trouble.
They were and still are considered the finest light calvery to have ever existed, and they were savage!
Attack plunder, rape, arson they just didn't care.
All of the other tribes were terrified of them!
They controlled the great plains for about 4 or 5 centuries, taking on all comers, first the Spanish then the Mexicans and the Americans the were the last to enter the reservation system I believe and they often left to terrorize!
They were not defeated until Sam Colts revolver combined with the Texas rangers willingness to take the fight to them, in places they had always considered safe havens!
Now back on thread.
I cannot say what his motivation was, he had already broken FBI employment rules, by starting his own security firm w/o permission. Just like in the military you have soldiers that drink the right wing kool-aid so why not an fbi agent.
I am not going to play this conspiracy game I believe they were going to do what the government alleges he/they were going to do!
They went thorough, and are in alot of trouble, basically life as they knew it is over.
Just to make someone look sympathetic.
It dosent make sense.

Its actually is silly, think about it! Originally Posted by Dogface78
... Hmmmm... So what you're saying is that the FBI
"reservation" fellow and his mates were REALLY gonna
kidnap her? .... I'm thinking that SHE just might
have been part of what I believe was a hoax.

But we can surely agree to disagree on this one, mate.

#### Salty
Ya all gotta get out of your own head, that has got to be exhausting keeping up it all of the CTs.


... Hmmmm... So what you're saying is that the FBI
"reservation" fellow and his mates were REALLY gonna
kidnap her? .... I'm thinking that SHE just might
have been part of what I believe was a hoax.

But we can surely agree to disagree on this one, mate.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again