6th post for newbie. Getting mixed signals.

By all means, lets protect the neurotic from tough love.
He has already set himself up for a fall. He has told the world that he can't take any heat, or his job will be in jeopardy. If he stays in the hobby very long, he will find a lowlife/blackmailing/pimped scammer that will destroy him. He may have already located one. What is he going to do when he gets the call saying "$500 or your outed"?
But lets not hurt his feelings right now..... the posts where he details how he is being blackmailed are going to be so much funnier.

The one that told me Id look back at this and cringe, hasnt practiced what he is preaching. Originally Posted by PJ1964

I took my lumps when I started, now I just laugh.

I've had it suggested to me to join P411. To tell you the truth, P411 and that's all one needs?? Sounds a little too good to be true, just like bobbysims' body looked too good to be true. P411, to ME, seems too good to be true. Now that I have done my research, I'm good with ECCIE and TER. Besides, getting ACTUAL provider references is gonna be a whole lot funner!!!! I dont need no stinkin' P411. Originally Posted by PJ1964

I think you were looking for advice. ECCIE & TER are great, to find providers and what you might expect. P411 is a screening service and can be a golden key - not the same at all, saving you tons of time and money (in the way of discounts - because some providers give discounts if you're a member as they spend as much time screening cliente that aren't members as they spend seeing them). There are a lot of providers you will never be able to see without it - having references is great, getting them to respond to requests is another thing!

God gave you two eyes, two ears, and one mouth. READ a shitload. LISTEN to what the people are sayin, and speak less until you know what you are talkin about and who you are talkin to. That's a basic noob rule for any message board; unless you are not really a noob here.

We're all happy you were smart enough to avoid seeing someone like that.

But you really should think again about the benefits of P411.
I'm retired now, but when I do play I only see guys I've met already, or those on P411.
I'll give references, but rarely bother seeing anyone who isn't a P411 member.
(But then I can afford to pass on 90% of the requests I get. I only play when I want to)
I know all of you men appreciate girls who are easier to book with. But if she's easy for YOU to meet, she's easy for LE to meet with.
And just because a lady claims to have a friend in LE doesn't mean she does.
A large number of women, even ones on here, request information but never follow up on it.
I know of guys who use me as a reference all the time. I've only had 3 ladies PM or email me since June to check with me.
Now most of the time when a girl gets busted, it's just a fine or jail time. But in some areas, the local PD are much more interested in getting girls to work with them to get more busts.
If you *really* have a lot to lose, you may want to reconsider who you're willing to see and who you'll give your information to.
Preferred411 has never had a problem being infiltrated by LE and has never given the providers that use the service any personal info on clients. Girls love it, guys love it, it works for everyone.

Also, here's a tampon for all the vaginal bleeding. Jeebus. No one is going to coddle you and hold your hand when you fuck up. This place requires a thick skin. Wah wah wah. F'n civilians.
Foreskin optional.

How dare you bash me on the board!! Your a newbie and need to be treated as such for my protection as well as YOURS! I am a professional and conduct myself in that manner with any information that is given to me. Most of US providers do know or have clients from the other side of the tract so to speak that we trust and have been friends with many years. If you can not handle that you need to stop while your ahead. Yes. like another said....Join P411!!!. MY number is #33405... I am 48 and DO have a body of a 20 year old because I take care of myself. MY PICS are REAL. My clients are also and are numerous. No, I dont have lots of reviews posted because my clients do not like them for the simple reason they are bias to the person given them. What he likes or dont like someone else might. I told you I could provide all the references you need in private email. I am thankful we have not met and never will.

Ouch, thats going to leave a mark!

I just love me some noobs...boobs, noobs, they provide entertainment in equal proportions...

I guess the noob can't read either - from her web site
I am NOT newbie friendly!!
If you are not willing to give personal information for verification, at least 1 or 2 recent provider references in good standing with numbers and email addresses....please do not contact me.

She apparently was trying to be nice and accommodating. You can bet she never will again. Bobby has been on my list - she just needs to come to Corpus!

How dare you bash me on the board!! Your a newbie and need to be treated as such for my protection as well as YOURS! I am a professional and conduct myself in that manner with any information that is given to me. Most of US providers do know or have clients from the other side of the tract so to speak that we trust and have been friends with many years. If you can not handle that you need to stop while your ahead. Yes. like another said....Join P411!!!. MY number is #33405... I am 48 and DO have a body of a 20 year old because I take care of myself. MY PICS are REAL. My clients are also and are numerous. No, I dont have lots of reviews posted because my clients do not like them for the simple reason they are bias to the person given them. What he likes or dont like someone else might. I told you I could provide all the references you need in private email. I am thankful we have not met and never will. Originally Posted by bobbysims

I am sorry things turned out this way. BUT, to tell me you want my dl info is asking too much. Like I said, I work for the state. Can't work for the state with a checkered past. First its a cop now its a retired cop/current lawyer in this field? Just the mention of law enforcement to a noob SHOULD make him nervous. You should have known introducing law enforcement right off the bat might ne mentioned. As for me 'bashing' you, im a noob. I needed to bounce it off others in the lifestyle.
As I mentioned im sorry things went in this direction. Fact is I said that a few times via p's. I was accountable for my actions and understand how it can be seen. You might want to be accountable for your actions, after you find that they put someone on edge. At the very least, you could have given this retired cop/ current lawyer in this field my name and employer and he could have found out plenty for you. PLUS, you didn't have to tell me about involving law enforcement. Do what ya have to do to check especially on noobies, but to tell them!?? Keep you secrets. I have apologized an been accountable for my mistakes between you and I, but you wont show the same respect. Respect is given, not earned. Im glad we wont meet also. I apologize and you go to cops and bitch. Beauty is skin deep.....ugly goes all the way thru! We both made mistakes. Only ONE pf is admits and apologizes. Yeah, im glad we wont meet either. Remember BOTH sides have control, not just the woman/provider.
Don't go away mad, just go away.

And folks......im just defending myself. Her and I both did wrong. One admits to it and apologizes, and the other doesn't. Nuff said.
OUT!!!!!

Don't be sorry!! I own up to my mistakes and mine was having you checked out by a friend from the wrong side of the tracks. And I might add you checked out clean as a whistle (lol for anyone who might be interested in seeing you in the future). Honesty is MY ONLY mistake. Because of that I will probably be banned from this site. I have written the super mod over this and have nothing to hide. I wish you luck on your hobby experiences in the future.

But wait.. why the hell was he told that his ID info would be given to someone that worked for Law enforcement? There is NO excuse for that. Isn't the reason why we screen to protect ourselves AND our clients from LE? Giving up a client's info to the police is wrong. I could careless about the rest.

I am sorry things turned out this way. BUT, to tell me you want my dl info is asking too much. Like I said, I work for the state. Can't work for the state with a checkered past. First its a cop now its a retired cop/current lawyer in this field? Just the mention of law enforcement to a noob SHOULD make him nervous. You should have known introducing law enforcement right off the bat might ne mentioned. As for me 'bashing' you, im a noob. I needed to bounce it off others in the lifestyle.
As I mentioned im sorry things went in this direction. Fact is I said that a few times via p's. I was accountable for my actions and understand how it can be seen. You might want to be accountable for your actions, after you find that they put someone on edge. At the very least, you could have given this retired cop/ current lawyer in this field my name and employer and he could have found out plenty for you. PLUS, you didn't have to tell me about involving law enforcement. Do what ya have to do to check especially on noobies, but to tell them!?? Keep you secrets. I have apologized an been accountable for my mistakes between you and I, but you wont show the same respect. Respect is given, not earned. Im glad we wont meet also. I apologize and you go to cops and bitch. Beauty is skin deep.....ugly goes all the way thru! We both made mistakes. Only ONE pf is admits and apologizes. Yeah, im glad we wont meet either. Remember BOTH sides have control, not just the woman/provider.
Don't go away mad, just go away.

And folks......im just defending myself. Her and I both did wrong. One admits to it and apologizes, and the other doesn't. Nuff said.
OUT!!!!! Originally Posted by PJ1964

You did the right thing by posting and ASKING. I don't know why others are so quick to flame. There is no such thing as a stupid question when you're a newbie. One bad move can end in a disaster.

So it's okay to use LE contacts to screen people, you just shouldn't tell anyone about it? Is that what I'm hearing?

you guys never disappoint.

But wait.. why the hell was he told that his ID info would be given to someone that worked for Law enforcement? There is NO excuse for that. Isn't the reason why we screen to protect ourselves AND our clients from LE? Giving up a client's info to the police is wrong. I could careless about the rest.

You did the right thing by posting and ASKING. I don't know why others are so quick to flame. There is no such thing as a stupid question when you're a newbie. One bad move can end in a disaster. Originally Posted by Naomi4u

I'm not taking sides here, but if that happened, thats crazy. If the provider asked for DL thats also crazy!

Don't worry about working for the state, your bosses boss probably is a member here! LOL