Managed Verses Independent Ladies?

Yes, I'm sure it does!

x. But in a "family" type of relationship, where daddy goes to the office and punches the clock, mommy goes around having sex with strangers, just seems a bit off to me.
Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

Bless ypur heart . Im old but even i can comprehand the idea of a hooker being married or having a boyfriend . Probably because dadddy is some week Darren from Bewitched with a sad sack and cant stand up to his boss for a raise to feed his family . That or the wife was always a whore and wants what she wants, MONEY, "family relationship" be damn .

I have much more respect for a chic with a pimp than a chic that is cheating on her husband while he is hard at work. And the arguement that he might be cheating on her too is weak because not all guys cheat. Even if the guy is cheating 2 wrongs do not make it right

Bottom line, hookers are human and many have a RW relationship outside the hobby. If there's kids then it becomes a family type of relationship.
Yeah its dysfunctional as hell, but it happens. I wouldn't be comfortable in something like that but it's happening more than you may want to know

The only scenario that I've run across that made me wonder is the Asian agency Sun Flowers. New ladies revolve in every 10-14 days and are on a "tour" around the US of city after city. When I've made small talk about what they do for fun, they admit they never leave the apartment.

That to me starts to sound like the stories where they are basically indentured servants until they can work off the cost of transportation to get to this country. As long as that is their choice, no problem, but it causes a little red flag in the back of my mind also.

In my experience most girls are managed in one form or another. Either by a legitimate pimp or a husband, boyfriend , girlfriend or substance dependency . I think that the basic personality it takes for this line of work requires this type of relationship. And of course there is a very very small percentage of the trurly independent woman that is a well balanced person with or without an education , has great business sense and an exit plan that will net them a lucrative retirement. Yeah right.

In my experience most girls are managed in one form or another. Either by a legitimate pimp or a husband, boyfriend , girlfriend or substance dependency . I think that the basic personality it takes for this line of work requires this type of relationship. And of course there is a very very small percentage of the trurly independent woman that is a well balanced person with or without an education , has great business sense and an exit plan that will net them a lucrative retirement. Yeah right. Originally Posted by peabody

This would make sense in reverse. Of the ladies I know personally, none of us are managed in any way.

The only scenario that I've run across that made me wonder is the Asian agency Sun Flowers. New ladies revolve in every 10-14 days and are on a "tour" around the US of city after city. When I've made small talk about what they do for fun, they admit they never leave the apartment.

That to me starts to sound like the stories where they are basically indentured servants until they can work off the cost of transportation to get to this country. As long as that is their choice, no problem, but it causes a little red flag in the back of my mind also. Originally Posted by citizen44

That is exactly what it is, which is the reason why I will not see a lady that is new to the US (regardless if its a spa or claiming to be independent). Most (not all) of the working girls that have newly arrived to the US (Asian and latina are most popular here) are victims of human sex trafficking; they barely know how to speak English and are stripped of their legal documents to ensure they don't escape.

As C44 pointed out, the spa/apartment and the visiting "gentlemen" are the only things they see while "touring" the US…the land of the free! A few of the girls might have known what they were signing up for, but the vast majority were lied to, later on threatened into compliance, and had no clue this would be their lifestyle.

Before someone blindly challenges my views, I've spent 20+ years in the Marine Corps, most of it abroad, with 3 years focused on anti-human trafficking operations in southeast Asia…it doesn't mean I know everything, but that's the basis of my logic on the topic.

That is exactly what it is, which is the reason why I will not see a lady that is new to the US (regardless if its a spa or claiming to be independent). Most (not all) of the working girls that have newly arrived to the US (Asian and latina are most popular here) are victims of human sex trafficking; they barely know how to speak English and are stripped of their legal documents to ensure they don't escape.

As C44 pointed out, the spa/apartment and the visiting "gentlemen" are the only things they see while "touring" the US…the land of the free! A few of the girls might have known what they were signing up for, but the vast majority were lied to, later on threatened into compliance, and had no clue this would be their lifestyle.

Before someone blindly challenges my views, I've spent 20+ years in the Marine Corps, most of it abroad, with 3 years focused on anti-human trafficking operations in southeast Asia…it doesn't mean I know everything, but that's the basis of my logic on the topic. Originally Posted by dream-big

Agreed db, precisely the reason I steer clear of agencies is my fear of the girls being trafficked and the reason I stopped seeing a certain set of travelling Asian girls. Also having spent a good number of years living in SE Asia where the laws are quite lax and those governments often turn a blind eye to sex trafficking.

Ya never really know, right? Not to mention the ones with boyfriends & SO's. While they may not be getting an actual "cut", they're still reaping the benefits of her "labor".

. Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

While it's really none of my business what a provider does in her personal life, I was recently going back and forth with a girl who mentioned she was seeing someone RW and he was jobless. I have to be honest, I was a little unsettled by that, I have no qualms about breaking off a provider for services rendered, but a broke ass non-working SO in the mix, left me a little uneasy about seeing her...just being honest.

While it's really none of my business what a provider does in her personal life, I was recently going back and forth with a girl who mentioned she was seeing someone RW and he was jobless. I have to be honest, I was a little unsettled by that, I have no qualms about breaking off a provider for services rendered, but a broke ass non-working SO in the mix, left me a little uneasy about seeing her...just being honest.

Originally Posted by Island_Gent

And then there's that^^
I know of at least two other, both broke dick boyfriends, both letting her suck dick to pay the bills. That raises the question, at what point does he stop being a dead beat boyfriend and start being her pimp? Raises a lot of questions really...
What kind of "man" is going to live off of a woman anyway?

What kind of "man" is going to live off of a woman anyway? Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

I'd like to try that. Hell, let my ass be the one to just shop, go to lunch and hang out at the club for 20 years. What's good for the gander would definitely be ok with this goose.

asked and answered...
You do know that goose and gander are gender references...
and you just called yourself a bitch?
Another gender reference... canine female

Wow! well does it seem off to you if mommy stays home with the family and daddy goes out having sex with strangers before or after he punches that clock? Or maybe during his lunch. The only difference I see between this situation and the one you described is the money coming into the family as oppose to the money going out from the family. Either way I'm sure both are a strain on the "relationship". Originally Posted by bon69

Exactly! I'm in this business for 2 reasons, which I'm not going to say because honestly it's my business but... You are right! No difference! I ALWAYS make sure my partner is okay with what times ect because I'm an own book when it comes to a personal/intimate relationship. I will fuck his brains out everyday, I will role play (happily) with him , I pretty much KNOW that my man is well fucked and knows I need/want HIM. So H.H, yes some people are capable of making a relationship work in this business. It does take a very strong minded man to do so... He's gotta be confident that she loves him. She's gotta be honest and compassionate for when he goes thru those bad days when he can't deal with her business...
I've heard all sorts of stories from men and I've learned a lot about what/why/ men do what they do. I absolutely take that and I make sure that I don't do that kind of shit in my life. It all depends on many things but I'm happy to see that someone sees that there is no difference lol! It's him because he doesn't get it or it's her because she's in the biz ect... No difference.

^^Exactly what LM said... I dated a provider on the DL for a while. Didn't bother me at all as long as both people are secure.

While it's really none of my business what a provider does in her personal life, I was recently going back and forth with a girl who mentioned she was seeing someone RW and he was jobless. I have to be honest, I was a little unsettled by that, I have no qualms about breaking off a provider for services rendered, but a broke ass non-working SO in the mix, left me a little uneasy about seeing her...just being honest.

Originally Posted by Island_Gent

Right, broke non-working boyfriend . I bet he still lives at home woth his mom to and borrows the car to take her out on dates . Or did he convince her to let him move in so he can watch espn or cartoon network all day . I mewn babysit all day .