Why The Premiums Are Changeing With Obamacare

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  • CJ7
  • 11-07-2013, 07:52 AM
The dead men, women and children from drone strikes were once "unacceptable collateral damage" during GWB's administration are now "enemy combatants" because "Obama said so."

The use of waterboarding is decreed torture because "Obama said so."

The Patriot Act, once an abomination to the Democrats, it totally kosher because "Obama said so."

Spying on Americans during the most transparent administration in this nations history is okay because "Obama said so."

Killing Americans via drone strikes won't happen unless "Obama says so" - in his weekly Tuesday extrajudical meetings.

... Originally Posted by gnadfly




that stupid fucker is C-R-A-Z-Y

but we knew that.
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  • CJ7
  • 11-07-2013, 07:54 AM
Government should not be involved in this shit. It's Unconstitutional... FUCK! Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

this is shit unconstitutional ..

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...12+PRN20120104


theres your "regulation".
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https://www.google.com/search?q=blue...awsuit&spell=1

https://www.google.com/search?q=Prud...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=Aetn...awsuit&spell=1

https://www.google.com/search?q=Huma...sm=93&ie=UTF-8


LL, I still have not figured out why you have to always use insults. It takes away any chance you have of making any valid points.
Above are some links showing that insurance companies are all crooks.
As for the web site it is doing quite well. Any web site is going to have start up issues and this one is possible the worst case scenario for a new web site.First of all it is pretty complex along with having to interface with 50 different states and who knows how many insurance companies . Along with I would imagine quite a few on line attacks to slow it down. just look at what "Anonymous" did to Scientology and imagine what Koch and the GOP(Teaparty) are capable of. It was tested at a beta level and then put on line 6 months in advance.
Here is another question, I "Obamacare" is not even in effect yet, why are they cancelling policies already?
I speak with a lot of people every day and until recently I kept hearing how Obama is ruining our country. Now I keep hearing how they or a loved one can finally get the medical care they desperately need.Can you imagine how many women are providers simply because they are desperate to pay for a sick child's medical needs? Originally Posted by slingblade
Obama administration knew millions could not keep their health insurance

Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC News that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.”

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_n...alth-insurance
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Quoting unnamed sources and experts. Great job Corpy!
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  • CJ7
  • 11-07-2013, 08:50 AM
LL quips;

"#2:: I've had BlueCross, Prudential, Aetna, Humana, ... I'm thinking ... they didn't lie, they didn't cheat, and they didn't cancel my policy because I had claims .. they didn't cancel at all ... I switched for various reasons, none of which had anything to do with their service"

various as in saved you money, have a better policy, or both? or did you switch to a more expensive, inferior policy because you were forced to?
LexusLover's Avatar
LL quips;

various as in saved you money, have a better policy, or both? ... Originally Posted by CJ7
A more comprehensive health care policy that fits my needs (I don't need maternity benefits, and neither does my SO, for instance), at the same premium with more attractive copays .. saves money, BTW.

Some physicians and hospitals decline to accept some insurers, because they late pay, kick back billings that cannot be passed back to the patient, and haggle with billing personnel regarding codes and "reasonable charges." If the physician I want to keep no longer accepts an insurer I am using, then I can change my carrier to one the physician accepts .. and if it has to do with a hospital I prefer then I can "shop" the hospital coverage by surgeons who will generally accept the same carriers as the hospital with which they are associated. In addition switching to a carrier that facilitates and cooperates with mail order prescriptions with annual renewals by one's designated PCP saves money and time, since mail order prescriptions with multiple month refills can cost 1/3 to 1/2 less monthly, and it is unnecessary to return to the PCP so often.

You will not be able to do that if you sign up with one of the "qualified" providers "assigned" through the Obaminable Care to those taking advantage of the "portal" through which the government designates coverage ..
LexusLover's Avatar
LL quips;

"#2:: I've had BlueCross, Prudential, Aetna, Humana, ... I'm thinking ... they didn't lie, they didn't cheat, and they didn't cancel my policy because I had claims .. they didn't cancel at all ... I switched for various reasons, none of which had anything to do with their service"

various as in saved you money, have a better policy, or both? or did you switch to a more expensive, inferior policy because you were forced to? Originally Posted by CJ7
I answered this question .. and your concerns .. but the "powers to be" apparently didn't like my response ... so it was not posted .... having that trouble lately on this site ....

Short: a "better" policy for the same premium, saves money, time, and grief..

A "worse" policy for less premium, wastes money and time, and increases stress and grief.
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  • CJ7
  • 11-07-2013, 02:06 PM
regardless if you purchased your new policy through the AHCA portal, the law pertains to ALL insurance companies, and they must comply with it. That said, if you have a better policy, and saved you $$, you can thank Obie.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/yo...nges.html?_r=0

you're welome