There are 2 types of men in this world

You know when our economy was at its worse since the great depression era of the 1930's... Housing market crash, auto industry crash, financial institutions crashed. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

George W Bush started all that government bailout bullshit before ole Barry got in office. Maybe you're not old enough to remember but you could always learn something.

Healthcare costs driving our national debt to unprecedented levels. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Healthcare costs have skyrocketed since 2008. Mine has gone up 385%

Healthcare costs have skyrocketed since 2008. Mine has gone up 385% Originally Posted by oilfieldscum

Only difference is the country is now recovering from all those uninsured folk driving our debt to such a degree. It's patriotic that you pay more. Im ok with that.

Only difference is the country is now recovering from all those uninsured folk driving our debt to such a degree. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

The nation's debt rose 6 trillion under Obama's presidency and Obamacare.

It's the largest increase in debt under any Presidential administration...but hey at least ole Barry set some record right?


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/national...a-took-office/

The nation's debt rose 6 trillion under Obama's presidency and Obamacare.

It's the largest increase in debt under any Presidential administration...but hey at least ole Barry set some record right?


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/national...a-took-office/ Originally Posted by oilfieldscum

Sure you have to spend money to make money. Do you not get that? How do you fix a leaking Dam? You spend money to ensure the leaks stop. Is it floating debt? Of course but there is no other way. Its also analogous to you paying your 30 yr mortgage to help secure your future. You didn't pay cash because you didn't have cash and couldn't afford it so you floated your debt pushed it out to future years to fix a problem you have now.you guys love to bring this silly notion of increased debt up but you have ZERO idea as to how you recover a failed economy that is the driver of all other global economies. You guys are just clueless.

Again based on where we were in terms of our collapsing economy and crashed major industries in 2008 when O took office the debt we now have is generous and moderate.

He did the right thing he got us in debt to pull is out of debt and now the economy is flourishing once again. I'm glad we are where we are now so that when Trump fucks it up there will be a clear delineation between the two inherited economies.

Again no president inherited what Obama inherited going into office and that's the bottom fucking line. You clowns can try and spin this 100 different ways but them be the facts. Trump did not inherit a global great depression and crashing financial markets. Obama did. ;-)

Both sides lie about the facts to inflate their "guy" and make their argument.

The sad thing is that you're so in love with Barry you can't see that.

Both sides lie about the facts to inflate their "guy" and make their argument.

The sad thing is that you're so in love with Barry you can't see that. Originally Posted by oilfieldscum

All you have to do is look at his post to understand the way SC is.
People like him ARE the problem and always will be. He will never be able to see outside his little bubble and never wants to even try. He will always be a hater of anything that doesn't fit in his small world

Both sides lie about the facts to inflate their "guy" and make their argument.

The sad thing is that you're so in love with Barry you can't see that. Originally Posted by oilfieldscum

Hey listen you guys can say what you want about me but I'm not going to let you white wash history and present an alternate reality. I'm not the problem at all I'm very open minded and I have many republican friends but they know they just can't come at me sideways and expect me to circle jerk with the crowd. Especially when your presenting viewpoints that are not factual.

I disagreed with but had respect for George Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain. I do not have respect for idiots like Sarah Palin and Donald Trump. This shit ain't that difficult.

You only see facts you want to see SC that's your problem.
I actually feel sorry for you

My take on the whole state of our country. I'm not the author, but I totally agree with it. We have become a nation of Crybabies.

Wake up people.
I keep seeing people post on how they are terrified, or scared? Well.. what are you scared of exactly? War? Because that's happening. School shootings? Because that's happening. Pipeline? That's been happening. Terrorism? Definitely alive and well. Going broke due to health insurance? Mm yes. Corruption throughout the system? Already there. Police officers being murdered? Yep, that's happening. Bullying? Check. Loss of jobs? We've got that on lock. A tanking economy. Yep. Being discriminated against for your religion, political views, sexual orientation, race? That's been going on. Rape, murder, violence, riots.. all going on and has been.
So tell me, what are you scared of that is not already happening basically everywhere? This isn't a Trump problem, this is a people problem. Y'all need to reevaluate your own selves..
Maybe America is a little too scared and a little too easily offended.
Quit being scared, crying around, offended by everything.. step up and do your part as an American, no, as a damn human being. Treat others with respect, help and encourage one another, raise your kids right, be a contributing member of society. Make sure your hands are clean, that's your job. Burning the American flag? Get out of here with that crap, how about you do your job to make it a better place.
But right now, all I see is hate. It's disturbing, and the ones with the most hate are being exactly what they claim to be against.

You only see facts you want to see SC that's your problem.
I actually feel sorry for you Originally Posted by tbone2u

Haha. So what facts am I closing my minds eye too?


Did Obama not inherit the worst economy in the history of the Union. Did he not have to recover us from major market collapses across the board and a finanicial market crisis and help pull the global economy out of a great recession? Are you saying these are alternative facts?

I understand you've been horse fed lie upon top of lie by the mentally degenerate and insane folks like Sean Haannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Mike Berry but what I present are nothing but FACTS

I rest my case

Did Obama not inherit the worst economy in the history of the Union. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Nope, not even close.

haha ok

Haha. So what facts am I closing my minds eye too?


Did Obama not inherit the worst economy in the history of the Union. Did he not have to recover us from major market collapses across the board and a finanicial market crisis and help pull the global economy out of a great recession? Are you saying these are alternative facts?

I understand you've been horse fed lie upon top of lie by the mentally degenerate and insane folks like Sean Haannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Mike Berry but what I present are nothing but FACTS Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Nope, that was FDR. He inherited the Great Depression. Get YOUR facts straight. He had to deal with 30-40% unemployment and total collapse of Wall Street and the banks, while dealing with WWII at the same time. Not even close.

Nope, not even close. Originally Posted by chicagoboy

Exactly.

George Washington had it the worst.
Crushing war debt, no credit, no monetary or fiscal system.

Obama only had to tell the fed to fire up the printing press.