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Also, it would help your credibility if you would learn the difference between “then” and “than”. Illiteracy exposes ignorance.

Also, it would help your credibility if you would learn the difference between “then” and “than”. Illiteracy exposes ignorance. Originally Posted by princeclubhopper

You're just throwing garbage to see what sticks. I make mistakes all the time and I do miss things when I proofread, but I didn't miss "then" and "than" in the post I just made.

If you're speaking from ignorance, that's fine. I'm not going to judge your arguments based on your grammar mistakes and I don't need to respond to your Help Wanted Ad Hominem in kind; your arguments fail all by themselves.

Okay, so why not just report to all uf us the safe locations, as also asked? No he, nor you, truly care about human trafficking. His white knight martyrdom is as transparent as Treetop’s. Pathetic and ignorant of any facts, as always. Save these women by saying where is safe and/or where is not safe to go. Either works. But lobbing general bombs does nothing but prove this is all conjecture with absolutely no basis in facts. Originally Posted by princeclubhopper

Your arguments do not appear to be thought through and your accusations are transparently self-serving.

There could be at least two reasons they are not indicating "safe" places:

1. By indicating the "safe" places, they'd be opening themselves up to disingenuous accusations of having a vested interest in whatever place they claimed to be "safe". It would be one thing if it were just personal reputation weighed against their main point, however, it would certainly be used to distract from their main point. They are, quite wisely, avoiding that. Or should be, at least.

2. You realize that, even if "safe", you're asking them to point out places that may or may not be involved in Class A Misdemeanors? It would be naive to think that LE isn't reading these posts. Do you want to possibly put a legitimately licensed provider at risk by asking someone to suggest a safe place to practice the "hobby"? That's a very different sort of categorization than a review might provide, because, of course, all of the reviews are just fictions we create to help each other get through lonely nights.

You're either arguing in bad faith or you really haven't considered what you're asking.

What I would suggest is that you're just not willing to do the work, or the thinking, for yourself. I don't know you personally, I'm basing this on your approach to trying to discredit others so you can get information.

In order to get the information you want, you're accusing folks of not wanting to reduce trafficking. You're attempting to provoke someone into revealing a safe place where you can go to get your needs met to reduce the chance that you're supporting slavery. Laudable, but you're doing it without thinking about the people who would be put at risk by others sharing that information "publicly". Instead, you and the other chuckle-heads are attacking the people who are telling you that this is a real problem and that you need to do your own research and thinking on this.

To maintain your own suspension of disbelief, you and other chuckle-heads have established criteria in your minds that, if not satisfied 100%, will allow you to continue going to whatever place you like without having to give a thought as to whether or not there's trafficking involved. This is the lie you're telling yourselves because you're unwilling to do the research or walk out of a place that seems sketchy.

What is your argument against the idea of you doing your own research on human trafficking and deciding for yourself? Was your response of "you should share your information" the only "argument" you had? What part of "do your own research" do you not understand? Go think for yourself. Stop asking others to do even the medium lifting and take responsibility for your own actions. It's not an unreasonable request.

Done here, unless you got something else other than ad hominem, grammar bullshit, or more terms you'd like to throw around to insult people who aren't giving you the answers you want to hear?

You won’t reveal the “safe places” either, yet you’ve reviewed DT several times. Thus putting them in apparent danger. You really aren’t the sharpest tack in the box. The entertainment you provide is quite enjoyable.

And in case you haven’t grasped the concept of this and other sites like it, it’s about sharing your experience with others, not just “doing your own research”. So, what’s wrong with you being asked to share your information instead of making random accusations based in zero facts?

You won’t reveal the “safe places” either, yet you’ve reviewed DT several times. Thus putting them in apparent danger. You really aren’t the sharpest tack in the box. The entertainment you provide is quite enjoyable. Originally Posted by princeclubhopper

He had a spiritual awakening. Just like I did. He is now owning his mistakes and doing what is necessary to make amends. Everyone should admire him. When it comes to human trafficking the only option is the nuclear option.

No, like you, he’s just a hypocrite. Instead of helping those who are truly trafficked, you’re hurting those that aren’t and participate in this industry voluntarily. That’s not the “nuclear option”, that’s hurting innocent people and throwing the baby out with the bath water.

No, like you, he’s just a hypocrite. Instead of helping those who are truly trafficked, you’re hurting those that aren’t and participate in this industry voluntarily. That’s not the “nuclear option”, that’s hurting innocent people and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Originally Posted by princeclubhopper

These guys remind me of the Holy Rollers telling us to repent and find Jesus while we walk out of a music festival. Does anyone on here think they are persuading mongers to alter their behavior?


There's a "REPORT TRAFFICKING" button on the upper left side of the ECCIE web pages. How many times has WD and/or TT clicked on it and sent a legit report?


Making ECCIE great again, indeed.

No, like you, he’s just a hypocrite. Instead of helping those who are truly trafficked, you’re hurting those that aren’t and participate in this industry voluntarily. That’s not the “nuclear option”, that’s hurting innocent people and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Originally Posted by princeclubhopper

A hypocrite is someone who continues to do something that they proclaim is wrong and condemn others for. I'm neither continuing to do what I am proclaiming is wrong, nor am I condemning others for it. I'm saying that it's juvenile for you to attack others for telling you to think.

At some point between my last review (which was a work of fiction anyway) and now, you can assume that I learned some things that you simply haven't learned yet.

We're saying: "We've seen things that worry us. We don't believe the solutions offered will help the people involved based on what we've learned. We don't believe directing you to "safe" places will help those "safe" places, either. All we can do is say: do your research, keep your eyes open, think and behave accordingly."

Here's how a thinking person responds:"Okay, you guys have seen some things and your opinion about this hobby has changed. Guess I'll think about that and keep my eyes open."

Instead, you're demanding we spoon-feed you information, even though I've given you reasons why that is not in anyone's best interest.

I can only choose not to risk supporting human trafficking by no longer patronizing the establishments that I've concluded are engaged in it. Maybe I'm not helping, but I'm not actively harming. Not saying I'm a hero for doing this. Just saying doing less harm is an option and that's what I'm choosing. You're saying I should do more.

You're just a coward who is afraid he's never going to get a consensual handjob ever again and it's painfully obvious. Hey, to be fair, I was where you are, but since then, I've kept my eyes open and I saw some shit that made me change my mind and reconstruct my priorities. Guess you're not able to do that. You do you, cupcake. Good luck.

I’m not sure which has been more fun, trolling the ignorant, or outing them.

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Making ECCIE great again, indeed. Originally Posted by EagleEye

!!!!!.....MEGA.....!!!!!

Now there's a slogan I could get behind!

A hypocrite is someone who continues to do something that they proclaim is wrong and condemn others for. I'm neither continuing to do what I am proclaiming is wrong, nor am I condemning others for it. I'm saying that it's juvenile for you to attack others for telling you to think.

At some point between my last review (which was a work of fiction anyway) and now, you can assume that I learned some things that you simply haven't learned yet.

We're saying: "We've seen things that worry us. We don't believe the solutions offered will help the people involved based on what we've learned. We don't believe directing you to "safe" places will help those "safe" places, either. All we can do is say: do your research, keep your eyes open, think and behave accordingly."

Here's how a thinking person responds:"Okay, you guys have seen some things and your opinion about this hobby has changed. Guess I'll think about that and keep my eyes open."

Instead, you're demanding we spoon-feed you information, even though I've given you reasons why that is not in anyone's best interest.

I can only choose not to risk supporting human trafficking by no longer patronizing the establishments that I've concluded are engaged in it. Maybe I'm not helping, but I'm not actively harming. Not saying I'm a hero for doing this. Just saying doing less harm is an option and that's what I'm choosing. You're saying I should do more.

You're just a coward who is afraid he's never going to get a consensual handjob ever again and it's painfully obvious. Hey, to be fair, I was where you are, but since then, I've kept my eyes open and I saw some shit that made me change my mind and reconstruct my priorities. Guess you're not able to do that. You do you, cupcake. Good luck. Originally Posted by MichaelClueless

Thanks for your posts!
For me I woke up in a split second when I observed something. Not anything I hadnt seen before. Just saw it differently! That was the last time I will ever support such establishments.

Total Relaxation in RR was shut down yesterday.

There's a "REPORT TRAFFICKING" button on the upper left side of the ECCIE web pages. How many times has WD and/or TT clicked on it and sent a legit report? Originally Posted by EagleEye

No clicking required. It's a phone number.
You'll never know whether we've called it or not.
There are strong arguments for and against getting LE involved.

I’m not sure which has been more fun, trolling the ignorant, or outing them. Originally Posted by princeclubhopper

Ooooh, you were only trolling!

I totally fell for it.

You played your part so well! Your reasoning was as sound as a Flat Earther's and you portrayed the inability to shift your frame as well as any Red Piller could.

Well played, buddy. If I ever make it back to Austin, I owe you a beer!

Facts and accusations???? I posted twice now that both places are now empty!

Did they both pick up in the middle of the night and leave profitable businesses! C'mon man!

Good grief ya'll would protect the devil himself just to get a lil nookie. Originally Posted by winn dixie

The irony ...