Son of a hitch! Justice Scalia found dead.

  • MrGiz
  • 02-13-2016, 11:33 PM
"Who knows". Maybe he wanted to fuck her....who knows.
I do know that she did not Originally Posted by WTF
What. . . Want to fuck him???? How do you know that?

it does not hurt my feelings if you do not agree.
Neither mine. . . I'm just trying to follow your logic...
Munchmasterman's Avatar
Not me - he was a great Justice. The fate of the Republic hangs on this election. If liberals win, we are totally and completely fucked. Originally Posted by DSK
But we'll be okay if trump or cruz wins? Going to have to read this set of chicken entrails a tad different from you.

Just another vote-against election.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Scalia was a fucking toad. Good riddance. As far as JL lamenting the end of he world, m going to let him in a little secret: he can get "totally and completely fucked" right now!
Munchmasterman's Avatar
I am not sure of the truth in this, but both CNN and FOX are reporting since the Senate is in recess, President Obama could make a Recess Appointment to fill the vacancy and bypass the Senate's Advice and Consent power.

The appointment would be permanent. Originally Posted by Jackie S
A true double edge sword.

Do the right thing, wait on the Senate, and take the very real chance that almost no matter who he picks, that pick will be up in the air until the election is over?

Or do the easy thing, ride out the resulting political storm, and get it done?

Has this congress left him a realistic choice?
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
I think it will be a recess appointment. There are some big decisions coming up. I'm sure Obama would like some liberal backup.

BTW, a recess appointment lasts only until the end of the Congressional term. Then the real process will have to happen. Or another recess appointment. It could end up being a game of judicial leap frog. Congress is so polarized, and the Court is essentially irrelevant, it could happen. There certainly won't be a permanent appointment before the next President is in office.


Recess appointments are stupid these days. They were designed when Congress wasn't in session all the time, and if an emergency arose, it could take weeks to assemble the Congress. But that's the game, and Obama will play it. I thought Reagan was a coward for not making a recess appointment with Robert Bork. Just to piss off Ted Kennedy.
lustylad's Avatar
I'm glad he is off the Court. You have a problem with manners in this forum, you're a fucking fool for visiting it. Take your itty bitty hurt feeling with Cam Newton, piss off in the mean time . Originally Posted by WTF
"I'm glad he is off the Court”? Why didn't you put it that way the first time, dipshit. You said "I'm glad he's dead." Perhaps an appropriate thought if we were talking about Ted Bundy or Osama bin Laden, but not a US Supreme Court Justice, liberal or conservative.

Trust me, I don't have any "hurt feeling" over the fact that you're such an uncouth ill-bred scumbag. But now that I see what a hater you are, I'm starting to feel sorry for you. I guess as a libtard, winning in politics comes ahead of everything, even your own self-respect. You remind me of those Occupy Wall Street pigs defecating on cars next to Zuccotti Park.

Scalia was a fucking toad. Good riddance. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Look who else shows up as soon as I say the word pig. Go shit in the park, you disgusting porker.
lustylad's Avatar
I think it will be a recess appointment....

Recess appointments are stupid these days. They were designed when Congress wasn't in session all the time, and if an emergency arose, it could take weeks to assemble the Congress. But that's the game, and Obama will play it.... Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
No he won't. He can't legally do a recess appointment as long as the Senate has pro-forma sessions every 3 days. Obama was already smacked down by the Supreme Court in 2014 for over-reaching his authority on this point.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/us...ointments.html
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
You're right, Lusty. I forgot that.
  • DSK
  • 02-14-2016, 08:05 AM
No he won't. He can't legally do a recess appointment as long as the Senate has pro-forma sessions every 3 days. Obama was already smacked down by the Supreme Court in 2014 for over-reaching his authority on this point.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/us...ointments.html Originally Posted by lustylad
I don't think a recess appointment, if legal, would be such a bad thing for Republicans. Obama would be better off with putting the pressure on congress with a semi reasonable moderate choice for SCOTUS - he loses the high moral ground with a recess appointment and gives the permanent pick to the next President.
  • DSK
  • 02-14-2016, 08:08 AM
But we'll be okay if trump or cruz wins? Going to have to read this set of chicken entrails a tad different from you.

Just another vote-against election. Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
Hopefully you will vote against further destruction of the Republic.
WTF's Avatar
  • WTF
  • 02-14-2016, 08:19 AM
What. . . Want to fuck him???? How do you know that?


Neither mine. . . I'm just trying to follow your logic... Originally Posted by NTJME
I do not...and I clearly stated as much.




"I'm glad he is off the Court”? Why didn't you put it that way the first time, dipshit. You said "I'm glad he's dead." Perhaps an appropriate thought if we were talking about Ted Bundy or Osama bin Laden, but not a US Supreme Court Justice, liberal or conservative.

. Originally Posted by lustylad
I'm glad the SOB is off the SC. Wish he had died 17 years earlier. Is that better lustyladdie?

Here is the hypocritical bastard at his worst. Big States right guy , right?

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...t-and-prologue

What made the decision in Bush v. Gore so startling was that it was the work of Justices who were considered, to greater or lesser extents, judicial conservatives. On many occasions, these Justices had said that they believed in the preëminence of states’ rights, in a narrow conception of the equal-protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and, above all, in judicial restraint. Bush v. Gore violated those principles. The Supreme Court stepped into the case even though the Florida Supreme Court had been interpreting Florida law; the majority found a violation of the rights of George W. Bush, a white man, to equal protection when these same Justices were becoming ever more stingy in finding violations of the rights of African-Americans; and the Court stopped the recount even before it was completed, and before the Florida courts had a chance to iron out any problems—a classic example of judicial activism, not judicial restraint, by the majority.
FrankieP's Avatar
The longest ever Supreme Court confirmation was 162 days. Obama has over 300 days left in office. So I think it would be extremely foolish to block his nomination. Reagan got his nomination through with a democrat heavy senate in his last year in office so there is precedent.

This really puts senate republicans in a bind. If they refuse to confirm a nominee, they will be painted as obstructionist, which just gives ammo to the democrats seeking their seats. If they approve somebody they will look weak to their base. And if Hillary/Sanders win, then democrats likely retook control of the senate and a solidly liberal justice will sail right through confirmation. It's a catch 22.

My personal belief is that Obama will nominate somebody pretty solidly in the center, but probably a minority or a woman, just to add more pressure. But floating the idea that we should go a year with that seat empty is just too partisan for my taste.
LexusLover's Avatar
You're right, Lusty. I forgot that. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
http://www.scotusblog.com/2016/02/is...urt-an-option/


"Could President Obama make a nominee during that recess? Only if the Senate is taking a recess lasting longer than three days, and does not come in from time to time during that recess to take some minimal legislative action. Both of those circumstances would be entirely within the Senate’s authority.

"In that circumstance, a recess appointment to the Court would not be within the terms of the Constitution, as spelled out in Article II.

"The same situation would likely apply when this year’s Senate session comes to an end, and the senators take a recess before the next Congress assembles.

"The bottom line is that, if President Obama is to successfully name a new Supreme Court Justice, he will have to run the gauntlet of the Republican-controlled Senate, and prevail there. The only real chance of that: if he picks a nominee so universally admired that it would be too embarrassing for the Senate not to respond."
LexusLover's Avatar
My personal belief is that Obama will nominate somebody pretty solidly in the center, but probably a minority or a woman, just to add more pressure. But floating the idea that we should go a year with that seat empty is just too partisan for my taste. Originally Posted by FrankieP
"pretty solidly in the center" by whose standards?

He thinks the "center line" is the white line on the left .... and the double yellow is a do not cross!

"pretty solidly in the center" by whose standards?

He thinks the "center line" is the white line on the left .... and the double yellow is a do not cross!

Originally Posted by LexusLover
You can reverse that lexie, and it would reflect the next republican president.