you people are too funnyFTFYour "stupid-ass", Sissy Chap. What's really funny is watching lib-retards call other lib-retards stupid, Sissy Chap. Odumbo's boy, Gruber, says you're stupid, Sissy Chap.
Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
- I B Hankering
- 08-29-2016, 05:44 PM
- Revenant
- 08-29-2016, 05:47 PM
Outside of a global (country by country) comparative analysis; if you have a valid basis and rationale I'd love to hear it. Not just for the white majority but for ALL. Outside of today in 2016 (which to me is the greatest and most inclusive America has ever been) when was America truly great in all aspects and a place that was fair and balanced for ALL peoples. For you old heads break it down by decade if you have to but answer it honestly on the merits backed up by logic backed up by hard cold FACTS.Stupid question and premise. Not surprising, considering the source.
Thanks Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
Your test - "truly great in ALL aspects and ... for ALL people" would be flunked by every nation on earth.
Which is why it is not worth discussing. It never is when you hold out perfection as the standard.
Any real discussion must be a comparative one. And in that regard America stands up quite well against the other nations of the world - no matter how mad that makes progressives.
- lustylad
- 08-29-2016, 06:07 PM
I'm an asset to this country it can ill afford to lose good people like me... Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
You ever been discriminated against? You ever been on the receiving end of systemic and institutional bias and prejudice. Welcome to the black man's world ok numnuts. Originally Posted by Sistine ChapelDoesn't sound like you were much of a victim of discrimination if this country turned you into such an asset... is your name Ben Carlson?
- The_Waco_Kid
- 08-29-2016, 06:09 PM
Stupid question and premise. Not surprising, considering the source.sissy cunt, let's consider another question shall we? why isn't Africa great, "brother" ?
Your test - "truly great in ALL aspects and ... for ALL people" would be flunked by every nation on earth ... from the beginning of recorded history.
Which is why it is not worth discussing. It never is when you hold out perfection as the standard.
Any real discussion must be a comparative one. And in that regard America stands up quite well against the other nations of the world - no matter how mad that makes progressives. Originally Posted by Revenant
please amuse me by trying to find a way to blame this on the "Evil White Man"
- Cherie
- 08-29-2016, 06:15 PM
Outside of a global (country by country) comparative analysis; if you have a valid basis and rationale I'd love to hear it. Not just for the white majority but for ALL. Outside of today in 2016 (which to me is the greatest and most inclusive America has ever been) when was America truly great in all aspects and a place that was fair and balanced for ALL peoples. For you old heads break it down by decade if you have to but answer it honestly on the merits backed up by logic backed up by hard cold FACTS.through his music. Despite the adversities he faced throughout his life, he loved his country, he knew nowhere else on earth was he going to be able to put forth effort and be able to succeed as he has done in this great country.
Thanks Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
Missing the late great RAY CHARLES, nobody does or will ever sing this beautiful song like you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yaetvTj5DE
- IIFFOFRDB
- 08-29-2016, 07:28 PM
through his music. Despite the adversities he faced throughout his life, he loved his country, he knew nowhere else on earth was he going to be able to put forth effort and be able to succeed as he has done in this great country.
Missing the late great RAY CHARLES, nobody does or will ever sing this beautiful song like you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yaetvTj5DE Originally Posted by Cherie
Thank You Cherie, That was Beautiful...
I'm sure Prissy Sissy was one of 86 down votes...
- Cherie
- 08-29-2016, 07:49 PM
Thank You Cherie, That was Beautiful...Did you know he was also a Republican, sang this at the Reagan 1984 Republican National Convention.
I'm sure Prissy Sissy was one of 86 down votes...
2:19 where he says "I love you America" WOW WOW WOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQg9vdPGXQY
- Sistine Chapel
- 08-29-2016, 09:18 PM
On second thought America has never been great. Decent and good at times but never great and furthermore Ray Charles was blind like many of Trump's followers.
- JD Barleycorn
- 08-29-2016, 09:37 PM
I can try to answer this OP but I really have no expectations that Dizzzy will take it seriously or give it much thought. Still....others can read my answer and make up their own minds.
It is said that in the military that the best commands you ever served in were the last one and the next one. You always appreciate what you had and you have high expectations on the future. I am sure that Dizzzy will even disagree with what "great" means. Classic liberalism and modern conservativism is about having the most freedom for the most people. Note that it does not say ultimate freedom for EVERYONE. That is not realistic and was never a claim made by the founders. So my definition is very likely not the definition that Dizzzy believes in or says that he believes in. I'm sure that if he got everything he wanted that he would say the country is great just like Michelle Obama did. She had a good job that paid good money, she lived in a safe Chicago neighborhood, in a very nice house but it was not until her husband won the nomination to be president that she really thought the country was great....what do some people need to be happy?
I'm going to go back to two times that I remember when I thought the country was truly great; the early 60s and the 80s. The most important part of those times was there was no doubt where the country stood on the side of right and wrong. No wishy-washy thoughts about a global community or retreating from our responsibilities. As Stan Lee said, "great power gives great responsibility". The United States under Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush stood as a beacon of freedom to the world. On the other side were the forces of oppression, communism, and despots. We had a strong military to safe guard our freedom and the freedom of the rest of the world. As JFK said, "we would bear any burden..." and we did. The United States was the only thing standing between the world and a new dark ages under international communism. JFK was considered a liberal in his time but he believed in a strong America. Reagan was a conservative but he believed in the same thing.
I know exactly where Dizzzy and the left will go though; race. Their short sighted view of the world has to have a victim and black people have been trained to be the victims by the left. However, in the 1960s the graduation rate of black children was higher, much higher than today. The murder rate was very low in the inner cities. Out of wedlock births was less than 25% in the black society. Fathers stayed home and raised their family. In the South, under the democrats, there was a pervading racism despite recent Supreme Court rulings. Blacks and Hispanics had the right to vote and work but sometimes life can be hard. Still, a man (black, white, or brown) could find a job that he could raise a family on if he put his mind to it. Which of course, brings us to the other victim class; women. Yes, it was a man's world in the 1960s. Men were the bread winners, men were the subjects of commericials and marketing, and men called the shots in government. Women could but it was a harder row to hoe just as it was for black people but it was not impossible. Adam Clayton Powell, the black representative from Illinois is an example along with Edward Brooke of Massachusetts. Barbara Walters (she was having an affair with Brooke) is another example along with Helen Gurley Brown. There were successful black men and women in the 60s but we never hear about them.
So for black people, the 60s were safer and offered many a route to a good life. They were taught to achieve and not to be victims.
There was a rennaisance in the 80s under Reagan. Racial problems receded except for inner cities of democratically controlled cities. There were racial protests inside the military before Reagan came along though you probably never heard about them. Reagan appointees corrected many oversights outside the eyes of the media and society. In my first ten years I had black, white, Hispanic and Filipino CPOs and all were treated with the same respect by us and by the command. We, and the country, had a mission and we fulfilled that mission.
Maybe that is the greatest thing about the country and life, to know you have a purpose and you get to succeed in that purpose. Ask any veteran what they liked about miltiary life and they will probably tell you that they did something that meant something.
Today (this is a comparison isn't it?) we don't seem to have any purpose, no goals, and no mandate. We are so worried about every little slight and offense that we walk on eggshells. The radical left senses this because they are responsible for attacking every representative of traditional values. Our economy teeters on the edge of recession when we have not really gotten out of the last one. We have a chief executive who just today talked about global warming comments he wants to make in China rather than cyber security and freedom of the seas. Obama is caught up in the minutiae of his own radical views rather reality. Uncertainty breeds insecurity and we are very insecure right now.
Nothing is ever perfect as the progressive left seems to have trouble understanding but you do the best you can. Correct what you can when you find out about it and keep your standards high.
It is said that in the military that the best commands you ever served in were the last one and the next one. You always appreciate what you had and you have high expectations on the future. I am sure that Dizzzy will even disagree with what "great" means. Classic liberalism and modern conservativism is about having the most freedom for the most people. Note that it does not say ultimate freedom for EVERYONE. That is not realistic and was never a claim made by the founders. So my definition is very likely not the definition that Dizzzy believes in or says that he believes in. I'm sure that if he got everything he wanted that he would say the country is great just like Michelle Obama did. She had a good job that paid good money, she lived in a safe Chicago neighborhood, in a very nice house but it was not until her husband won the nomination to be president that she really thought the country was great....what do some people need to be happy?
I'm going to go back to two times that I remember when I thought the country was truly great; the early 60s and the 80s. The most important part of those times was there was no doubt where the country stood on the side of right and wrong. No wishy-washy thoughts about a global community or retreating from our responsibilities. As Stan Lee said, "great power gives great responsibility". The United States under Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush stood as a beacon of freedom to the world. On the other side were the forces of oppression, communism, and despots. We had a strong military to safe guard our freedom and the freedom of the rest of the world. As JFK said, "we would bear any burden..." and we did. The United States was the only thing standing between the world and a new dark ages under international communism. JFK was considered a liberal in his time but he believed in a strong America. Reagan was a conservative but he believed in the same thing.
I know exactly where Dizzzy and the left will go though; race. Their short sighted view of the world has to have a victim and black people have been trained to be the victims by the left. However, in the 1960s the graduation rate of black children was higher, much higher than today. The murder rate was very low in the inner cities. Out of wedlock births was less than 25% in the black society. Fathers stayed home and raised their family. In the South, under the democrats, there was a pervading racism despite recent Supreme Court rulings. Blacks and Hispanics had the right to vote and work but sometimes life can be hard. Still, a man (black, white, or brown) could find a job that he could raise a family on if he put his mind to it. Which of course, brings us to the other victim class; women. Yes, it was a man's world in the 1960s. Men were the bread winners, men were the subjects of commericials and marketing, and men called the shots in government. Women could but it was a harder row to hoe just as it was for black people but it was not impossible. Adam Clayton Powell, the black representative from Illinois is an example along with Edward Brooke of Massachusetts. Barbara Walters (she was having an affair with Brooke) is another example along with Helen Gurley Brown. There were successful black men and women in the 60s but we never hear about them.
So for black people, the 60s were safer and offered many a route to a good life. They were taught to achieve and not to be victims.
There was a rennaisance in the 80s under Reagan. Racial problems receded except for inner cities of democratically controlled cities. There were racial protests inside the military before Reagan came along though you probably never heard about them. Reagan appointees corrected many oversights outside the eyes of the media and society. In my first ten years I had black, white, Hispanic and Filipino CPOs and all were treated with the same respect by us and by the command. We, and the country, had a mission and we fulfilled that mission.
Maybe that is the greatest thing about the country and life, to know you have a purpose and you get to succeed in that purpose. Ask any veteran what they liked about miltiary life and they will probably tell you that they did something that meant something.
Today (this is a comparison isn't it?) we don't seem to have any purpose, no goals, and no mandate. We are so worried about every little slight and offense that we walk on eggshells. The radical left senses this because they are responsible for attacking every representative of traditional values. Our economy teeters on the edge of recession when we have not really gotten out of the last one. We have a chief executive who just today talked about global warming comments he wants to make in China rather than cyber security and freedom of the seas. Obama is caught up in the minutiae of his own radical views rather reality. Uncertainty breeds insecurity and we are very insecure right now.
Nothing is ever perfect as the progressive left seems to have trouble understanding but you do the best you can. Correct what you can when you find out about it and keep your standards high.
- IIFFOFRDB
- 08-29-2016, 09:49 PM
I can try to answer this OP but I really have no expectations that Dizzzy will take it seriously or give it much thought. Still....others can read my answer and make up their own minds.
It is said that in the military that the best commands you ever served in were the last one and the next one. You always appreciate what you had and you have high expectations on the future. I am sure that Dizzzy will even disagree with what "great" means. Classic liberalism and modern conservativism is about having the most freedom for the most people. Note that it does not say ultimate freedom for EVERYONE. That is not realistic and was never a claim made by the founders. So my definition is very likely not the definition that Dizzzy believes in or says that he believes in. I'm sure that if he got everything he wanted that he would say the country is great just like Michelle Obama did. She had a good job that paid good money, she lived in a safe Chicago neighborhood, in a very nice house but it was not until her husband won the nomination to be president that she really thought the country was great....what do some people need to be happy?
I'm going to go back to two times that I remember when I thought the country was truly great; the early 60s and the 80s. The most important part of those times was there was no doubt where the country stood on the side of right and wrong. No wishy-washy thoughts about a global community or retreating from our responsibilities. As Stan Lee said, "great power gives great responsibility". The United States under Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush stood as a beacon of freedom to the world. On the other side were the forces of oppression, communism, and despots. We had a strong military to safe guard our freedom and the freedom of the rest of the world. As JFK said, "we would bear any burden..." and we did. The United States was the only thing standing between the world and a new dark ages under international communism. JFK was considered a liberal in his time but he believed in a strong America. Reagan was a conservative but he believed in the same thing.
I know exactly where Dizzzy and the left will go though; race. Their short sighted view of the world has to have a victim and black people have been trained to be the victims by the left. However, in the 1960s the graduation rate of black children was higher, much higher than today. The murder rate was very low in the inner cities. Out of wedlock births was less than 25% in the black society. Fathers stayed home and raised their family. In the South, under the democrats, there was a pervading racism despite recent Supreme Court rulings. Blacks and Hispanics had the right to vote and work but sometimes life can be hard. Still, a man (black, white, or brown) could find a job that he could raise a family on if he put his mind to it. Which of course, brings us to the other victim class; women. Yes, it was a man's world in the 1960s. Men were the bread winners, men were the subjects of commericials and marketing, and men called the shots in government. Women could but it was a harder row to hoe just as it was for black people but it was not impossible. Adam Clayton Powell, the black representative from Illinois is an example along with Edward Brooke of Massachusetts. Barbara Walters (she was having an affair with Brooke) is another example along with Helen Gurley Brown. There were successful black men and women in the 60s but we never hear about them.
So for black people, the 60s were safer and offered many a route to a good life. They were taught to achieve and not to be victims.
There was a rennaisance in the 80s under Reagan. Racial problems receded except for inner cities of democratically controlled cities. There were racial protests inside the military before Reagan came along though you probably never heard about them. Reagan appointees corrected many oversights outside the eyes of the media and society. In my first ten years I had black, white, Hispanic and Filipino CPOs and all were treated with the same respect by us and by the command. We, and the country, had a mission and we fulfilled that mission.
Maybe that is the greatest thing about the country and life, to know you have a purpose and you get to succeed in that purpose. Ask any veteran what they liked about miltiary life and they will probably tell you that they did something that meant something.
Today (this is a comparison isn't it?) we don't seem to have any purpose, no goals, and no mandate. We are so worried about every little slight and offense that we walk on eggshells. The radical left senses this because they are responsible for attacking every representative of traditional values. Our economy teeters on the edge of recession when we have not really gotten out of the last one. We have a chief executive who just today talked about global warming comments he wants to make in China rather than cyber security and freedom of the seas. Obama is caught up in the minutiae of his own radical views rather reality. Uncertainty breeds insecurity and we are very insecure right now.
Nothing is ever perfect as the progressive left seems to have trouble understanding but you do the best you can. Correct what you can when you find out about it and keep your standards high. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
I can tell you are pissed off and so am I... ALL OF THE TRUE AMERICANS ARE PISSED OFF AND WE ARE VOTING THIS YEAR. It's going to be a fun 4 years on icky!!! Can't wait!
- gnadfly
- 08-29-2016, 10:50 PM
http://theundefeated.com/features/mi...r-stay-silent/
“We are privileged to live in the world’s greatest country – a country that has provided my family and me the greatest of opportunities."
“We are privileged to live in the world’s greatest country – a country that has provided my family and me the greatest of opportunities."
- The_Waco_Kid
- 08-29-2016, 11:20 PM
http://theundefeated.com/features/mi...r-stay-silent/sir Chucky gets it too
“We are privileged to live in the world’s greatest country – a country that has provided my family and me the greatest of opportunities." Originally Posted by gnadfly
"most black people i know have been killed by other black people"
Charles Barkley
- The_Waco_Kid
- 08-29-2016, 11:46 PM
On second thought America has never been great. Decent and good at times but never great and furthermore Ray Charles was blind like many of Trump's followers. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
on second thought, you are a racist imbecile who Lincoln, had he lived, would have shipped back to Africa. this is why Lincoln was assassinated. it would have been the ultimate reparation. now, it's too late. so you "brothers" are just gonna have to abide by the rule of law, stop whining about "white privilege" and make something of yourselves like the rest of of us.
just try harder and stop bitching ... and burning down your own communities and blaming it on anyone else but yourselves ...
where is your "black pride" now pisstine racist?
- Yssup Rider
- 08-30-2016, 12:11 AM
I can tell you are pissed off and so am I... ALL OF THE TRUE AMERICANS ARE PISSED OFF AND WE ARE VOTING THIS YEAR. It's going to be a fun 4 years on icky!!! Can't wait!You'll be gone the first 90 days, Simple Jack.
So will Baboono, WWE and WhinyLitteBitch. Turdfly too, I believe.
- CuteOldGuy
- 08-30-2016, 02:06 AM
Where am I going, AssupLiar?