Trump Tanks Market

Chica Chaser's Avatar
"Dow rips to all time high as investors embrace Trump presidency"
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/us-markets.html

Yeah, a real tanking there.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
"Dow rips to all time high as investors embrace Trump presidency"
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/us-markets.html

Yeah, a real tanking there. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
on my investment broker's advice i sold off 20k in stocks yo to have the same to buy if the market tanked big time ... he hasn't called yet .. should i be nervous?? :
LexusLover's Avatar
on my investment broker's advice i sold off 20k in stocks yo to have the same to buy if the market tanked big time ... he hasn't called yet .. should i be nervous?? : Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
If one is an individual investor, brokers will (some not all) encourage their individual investors to sell while encouraging their institutional investors to buy shortly there after.

That occurred on a whole sale basis in 1999-2000 ... by trading positions from long term quality investments to techs and RX just prior to the bubble burst .... the institutional investors were getting out on brokerage advisories.

After a rather pointed letter with Federal statute references and a reasonable waiting period followed with a 2nd demand, all of my holdings were restored to their pre-trade position with an apology and an adjustment to "make me whole." Then I removed the funds to "relocate them."

You just have to run the numbers with the commissions to determine if the losses from the positions are worth the hassle.
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
Obama is going to credit for this. Just watch.
Guest123018-4's Avatar
I held all my positions but did see a drop in my bond fund.

the market does not like uncertainty but it seems they like Trump.

Is it at all possible that the tanking of the market futures during the election returns was the result of the talking heads attempting to prop up Hillary and the market futures traders really thought Hillary was going to win.

This would also be plausible for the run down to the election where all predictions were a Hillary landslide and Trump defeat.

Those poor white folks without a college education really fucked this one up for those over educated liberal smug ass assholes. College education may give you more knowledge but it don't make you any smarter and damn sure cannot replace common sense.
Chica Chaser's Avatar
on my investment broker's advice i sold off 20k in stocks yo to have the same to buy if the market tanked big time ... he hasn't called yet .. should i be nervous?? : Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Depends if he works on commission.
LexusLover's Avatar
Those poor white folks without a college education really fucked this one up for those over educated liberal smug ass assholes. Originally Posted by The2Dogs
You really don't believe, do you, that HillaryNoMore got the "college educated" vote, do you?

That "statistic" is the delusional propaganda of the so-called "elitist snobs" of the liberal cry-babies who are attempting to portray those who voted for Trump as being "ignorant" and "uneducated" .... Here are the HillaryNoMore "PHD's" ...





lawless crybabies!
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Depends if he works on commission. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
of course he works on commission .. now where is that "Trump Crash" so we both can make some money!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds
LexusLover's Avatar
How many of these do you have in your "holdings"?

The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
How many of these do you have in your "holdings"?

Originally Posted by LexusLover

that depends .. how much could you get for it on Ebay?? bahahah
LexusLover's Avatar
that depends .. how much could you get for it on Ebay?? bahahah Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
"depends"? or "Depends"!!!

Not nearly as much as my original of ....

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  • DSK
  • 11-18-2016, 06:42 AM
You boys want chaos? Well here ya go!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0aac624849fa9

Donald Trump Has Caused A Historic Drop In The Stock Market
The S&P 500 is down for nine straight days for the first time in 26 years.

16 minutes ago
Ben Walsh Business Reporter, The Huffington Post

Shortly after the first presidential debate, former Obama adviser David Axelrod said on CNN that the commander in chief “can send armies marching and markets tumbling.”

Investors, it seems, are being reminded of this as polls show Hillary Clinton’s numbers dropping. The S&P 500 was down Friday for the ninth straight day, something that hasn’t happened since 1980. “The U.S. elections are the elephant in the room for markets,” Julius Baer’s head of research Christian Gatticker told Bloomberg. Donald Trump is still a long shot, consistently trailing Clinton in key swing states, but the stock market seems to be evaluating his odds for what they are: a low, if real, chance of economic harm.

Deporting some 11 million undocumented immigrants, building a wall along the border with America’s third biggest trading partner, starting a trade war with Mexico and China that would destroy 4 million U.S. jobs: These are all deeply harmful economic policies.

Moody’s says Trump’s policies would throw the U.S. economy into the longest recession since the Great Depression. Citigroup thinks a Trump win could cause a global depression. By a different measure, Trump in the White House would cause the American economy to shrink by $1 trillion over five years, according to British research firm Oxford Economics.

That a campaign based on those ideas still has by some estimates a 35 percent chance of winning should scare markets.

As Trump’s chances of winning have risen and Clinton’s chances have fallen, the stock market has reacted with the most prolonged sell-off since the financial crisis, as this chart compiled by the Financial Times’ John Authers shows:


FINANCIAL TIMES
This has pushed the index that measures stock market volatility, referred to on Wall Street as the “fear gauge,” to its highest point since right after the UK’s Brexit vote rocked financial markets.

And it’s not just falling stocks. Investors moved more money into cash-like money market funds last week than any week in the last three years.

Beyond public markets, concern about a Trump win is already affecting the fundraising plans of some startups. Companies are raising new capital earlier than they had planned in order to have a cash cushion in case Trump wins, according to a source whose company is currently doing just that, and who is familiar with several other companies’ plans.

The source, who asked to remain anonymous because he did not want competitors to know he is raising money, said that his concerns won’t evaporate if Clinton wins. Trump’s base is so angry and resentful of Clinton that he predicts the possibility of significant economic harm even if Clinton wins because Republicans may prevent any Democratic-backed legislation or appointments from passing. That’s only anecdotal, of course, but if reflects broader concerns that legislative paralysis and niggling economic harm are built-in costs of a Clinton win.

The recent drop in the stock market, research firm Capital Economics argues, “is not just because the stock market is nervous about Donald Trump’s more over-the-top claims about starting a global trade war and restricting immigration. It also reflects the reality that even if Clinton now wins, her authority and mandate will be damaged by the series of probes into her past conduct.”

The value of the Mexican peso has also been swinging wildly over the last three months, tracking Trump’s electoral prospects. That could do real damage to the U.S. economy; one banker told The Huffington Post that the intense volatility of the peso forced him to shelve a currency swap deal he was working on.

It might be hard to sympathize with a banker over that, but it is a reason to be worried. These sorts of deals allow huge companies to ship goods around the world with locked-in exchange rates. It’s incredibly important to have that kind of predictability when you’re operating a multibillion-dollar company in the real economy. That type of activity becoming more difficult is exactly the sort of scenario that shows Trump’s rhetoric ― not to mention his actual policies ― can hurt the economy in significant ways.

And indeed, if in a losing effort his campaign sets the stage for four years of rancor and intransigence in Washington, D.C., he may already have hurt it. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
It may hurt some sections of the economy, and benefit others. This article was one sided and myopic.

Of course, the market is up since Trump's victory, too.
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Of course, the market is up since Trump's victory, too. Originally Posted by DSK
I'm sure our resident market ANALysts will interpret that to mean that the market is "going up" so it can crash ....

... like the colder it gets the more it proves global warming.
  • DSK
  • 11-18-2016, 01:42 PM
Every hurricane is proof of global warming, as is a harsher winter!!
I thought about bailing in case the bitch won but waited it out.
Portfolio should be in great shape except for the limited amount of foreign funds I have. But then again, those funds have not performed well at all.
Of course the media will claim gloom and doom since their meal ticket did not win. Originally Posted by The2Dogs
We all still need to be quite prudent and well diversified, as Janet Yellen says she is going to raise the interest rate, just a little "preliminary to" Trump getting sworn into office, to see if the market turns bearish. Would I be surprised if they (the Fed) raised it disproportionally to what it has been at for the last eight years, (yes, we all know that was) nope, the Liberals will stop at nothing to try and show that President Elect Trump is the "clown" they have said all along. Remember, they (the Libs) don't give to good chits about us pheasants, they just want control over everything we Conservatives value as Americans and worldwide. Time to keep an eye on France as there could be an upset there as well.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-marine-le-pen