How Illegal Immigrants harm America in Ways You Never Considered

It use to be that immigrants came to the US for a job. Now they come to the US to exploit your welfare and legal systems. I know many illegal Chinese immigrants and believe it's the same for all immigrant groups. Before I left HK, I was going to move to GB, but friends told me America was easier to play.

I read that prior to 1965, one third of the immigrants to the US returned to their home countries because they couldn't make it here. Seems to me it was better for the US when the losers went home. Now, all you get is losers and those looking to game your system. I guess that's OK with y'all, otherwise things would be different, right?

I think we have treated the Indians really well - Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

This one statement exposes you as an utter and complete fraud. NOTHING you have posted or will post can be taken with any degree of seriousness if this is how you honestly feel. That is unless you are taking about people from the nation of India and not Native Americans.

Oh, like the first 450 years of our history (150 as a country) when there were no passports (except for diplomats) visas or fences and anybody could come into the country and eventually become a citizen like 90% or more of the people on this board's ancestors?

Turns out there was no such things as "illegal" immigration unless you were Chinese or from an "undesirable" race or country. Originally Posted by austxjr

You completely miss the point every time, don't you, ASStxjr?

Tell me, in those first 450 years (150 as a country), when there were no passports or visas, was there a welfare state?

No, there wasn't. If you came here in 1927, you had to make it on your own or else. Few people realize that prior to about 1965 when Ted Kennedy changed the immigration laws of this country to favor the Third World, about ONE THIRD of all the people who immigrated here eventually emigrated back to their native countries because they couldn't cut it here on their own.

Do you really think that 1/3 go back home now? Not when they can receive government benefits, they don't. Just like those worthless Boston Marathon bombers. No one in their family could cut it here. Yet we gave them over 100K in public assistance and they still blew us up.

The immigration debate suffers from survivorship bias. We hear the great immigrant success stories from the descendants of the 2/3rds that succeeded. We don't hear from the descendants of the 1/3rd that failed, because THEY AREN'T HERE to tell us.

Everyone acts like the immigration process weeds out the losers in 2013 the same way it did in 1913. It doesn't and it hasn't in decades.

That part of the feel-good "melting pot" story never seems to get told, does it?

You cannot have both open borders and a welfare state. One of them has to go. Pick one.

Jewish lawyer, who inherited land? I certainly didn't. Your comment obviously exposed yourself as a prejudiced bigot! With that, I can't debate points with those kinds of people.

It use to be that immigrants came to the US for a job. Now they come to the US to exploit your welfare and legal systems. I know many illegal Chinese immigrants and believe it's the same for all immigrant groups. Before I left HK, I was going to move to GB, but friends told me America was easier to play.

I read that prior to 1965, one third of the immigrants to the US returned to their home countries because they couldn't make it here. Seems to me it was better for the US when the losers went home. Now, all you get is losers and those looking to game your system. I guess that's OK with y'all, otherwise things would be different, right? Originally Posted by Uncle Han

Amen!

I didn't see your post about 1/3rd of immigrants failing before I made my post above. Good point.

This one statement exposes you as an utter and complete fraud. NOTHING you have posted or will post can be taken with any degree of seriousness if this is how you honestly feel. That is unless you are taking about people from the nation of India and not Native Americans. Originally Posted by BigLouie

Go eat some ice cream and chill out, fattie

Jewish lawyer, who inherited land? I certainly didn't. Your comment obviously exposed yourself as a prejudiced bigot! With that, I can't debate points with those kinds of people. Originally Posted by txrancher1

Fuck you are stupid, asshole. You are the one who exploits immigrants, not me, you fucking faggot.

It use to be that immigrants came to the US for a job. Now they come to the US to exploit your welfare and legal systems. I know many illegal Chinese immigrants and believe it's the same for all immigrant groups. Before I left HK, I was going to move to GB, but friends told me America was easier to play.

I read that prior to 1965, one third of the immigrants to the US returned to their home countries because they couldn't make it here. Seems to me it was better for the US when the losers went home. Now, all you get is losers and those looking to game your system. I guess that's OK with y'all, otherwise things would be different, right? Originally Posted by Uncle Han

I'm glad someone is willing to speak the truth about the stupidity of our system. Perhaps we deserve to fail for being such chumps?

I like our chances a lot better without you, JINO!

I like our chances a lot better without you, JINO! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I'm thinking of moving to China, now. They seem like they could use some money management advice. We should be able to take over their system in 10 to 20 years.

Knock yourself out mamser.

I think we have treated the Indians really well - I wish I had reservation land I could slap a casino on - I'd add a whorehouse, too! Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

Wow. BiSex will be angry when he sees you are competing for stupidest comment ever. I think we have a new leader.

Read about it here.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ees-medicaid-/

From the article:

"In state after state, the largest group of Medicaid recipients is Walmart employees. I'm sure that the same thing is true of food stamp recipients. Each Walmart ‘associate’ costs the taxpayers an average of more than $1,000 in public assistance," Grayson wrote in a Huffington Post column on Nov. 24, 2012. Originally Posted by BigLouie

If they didn't work at Wal Mart, and presumably unemployed, they would still be on the public dole.

They are sometimes that bad but people work for them even so because in many cases they have put many other employers out off business. They employ a lot of undocumented workers because a lot of those workers have false documents that pass (or aren't looked at closely enough) and also by outsourcing cleaning and other tasks in the store.

There have been several suits about Walmart forcing workers to work overtime and not paying, as well as engaging in illegal bribery in foreign countries among other allegations about the way they do business unethically or illegally. I try not to do business with Walmart myself, but they do have the best prices on oil and bullets! Any organization that large is going to have lapses and I do have to credit them with responding to trends in the market and the law courts by addressing these concerns in most cases and even starting initiatives for lessening their dependence on Chinese goods, building eco friendly stores and carrying organic produce to name a few. Originally Posted by austxjr

Again, why do over 2 million Americans work there then? I doubt they are holding a gun to anyone's head to force anyone to work there. If there were a shortage of people, wages would go right up. Just like they are starting people at $17hr at Wal Marts in ND. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...099158474.html

Wow. BiSex will be angry when he sees you are competing for stupidest comment ever. I think we have a new leader.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Several million Indians, none of whom ever scalped any white men, right. Peaceful people - now they have reservations and get billions from the federal government and run casinos and get money for nothing. Normally when you lose a war you get shit.
What do you whiny ass babies want to do? Give them their land back? Go ahead, I don't give a shit. Pay reparations? Go ahead, pile on the debt.
The propaganda of the day is that the white man was the worst force for evil in history. Well, they saved us from Hitler. If you are ashamed of your skin color and want to destroy it go ahead.
COG, you really shouldn't insult your friends in public.

Sorry, JL. I call them as I see them. That is a stupid comment and a racist attitude. And how do you know what my skin color is? What is there in skin color to be proud or ashamed of?

I don't think you are my friend.