Chinese virologist posts report claiming COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

Actually this whole discussion is moot now cause Trump in his own voice has acknowledged that he knew all about the severity of the virus early and how it arose, whether from nature or a lab is not pertinent.What is pertinent is his lying to the people regarding it.And his inadequate response to it.

Certainly if this were to be a "Weaponized" virus intentionally created and released by China then their part would be bad but in another way it would still come down to Trump's response to it. Originally Posted by sportfisherman

You were doing fine walking that fine line between science and bullshit until you slipped on the above pile of shit. You've got the smell on you now.

You can merely provide a short lined bullet list of the FACTS you claim about which Trump "lied"! Or you can not do so, which is understandable.

As a "sports fisherman" you are familiar with fishy stench. Often worse than shit.

I would call it lying.You may feel better calling it "misleading" the people regarding what he knew about the virus in late January.

Until the Woodward tapes it had been proposed that China misled Trump or withheld info from him regarding the virus thus leading to him downplaying it's severity.From the tapes it is obvious Trump had the info whether he got it from China or our own intel sources is not disclosed.

I suppose you deem his public statements as "Truthful" compared to his private statements to Woodward ?

It would be interesting to know if Trump told his family about how bad the virus was ? Melania and his youngest son,Ivanka and Jared and their children ? You know he did.

I would call it lying.You may feel better calling it "misleading" the people regarding what he knew about the virus in late January... Originally Posted by sportfisherman

What were San Fran Nan, Bill DeBlowsmeo and Joe-mentia Biden saying about into early March?

trump's actions were serious

much more than his medical advisors advised

much more than the dims, who only and always say black if trump says white, and were totally wrong because of that

trump attempted to keep America calm but informed, while he acted in a serious manner beyond all advice

I don't know that they would have the same intel available to the president.

Obviously they did not or somebody would have spilled the beans.Trump must have had a tight leash on the info he had or someone would have come forth to refute Trump's downplaying of the virus.

Trump's actions were very serious ; He withheld vital information from the public in a very Overly Paternalistic way.

One way to keep people calm is to not disclose to them the debacle coming their way.

I don't know how you could reconcile that as to "keeping us informed" as well.

wishing to be a calming influence while being informative to the extent of your understanding of what people should do are not mutually exclusive things, but to see that you have to be actually willing to use your mind and not your bile

Was Trump trying to keep us calm and not panic when he exaggerated the "threat" of the caravan of Central Americans trekking their way up to invade us and rape our women and steal the jobs that no one else wants?

this is not new. I posted a video of this dr's claim in april.



its just a rehash of her claims on tucker. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

I agree mostly. I don't have the background to really understand the details.


People are getting hung up that this was "genetically engineered" virus. It could have been. It could also have been "sought out", "isolated," "grown", "enhanced", and many other adjectives that still cast blame solely on the Chinese.

trump's actions were serious

much more than his medical advisors advised

much more than the dims, who only and always say black if trump says white, and were totally wrong because of that

trump attempted to keep America calm but informed, while he acted in a serious manner beyond all advice Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Let's be apolitical for a second.

Where's the cure or treatment or vaccine for CV19? US? France? China? Russia? Korea? Brazil? I'm seeing where "everyone else is doing such a great job but us because of Trump (say like Tucker)"...but not really. There's little faith in other countries fatality numbers. Everybody else sickness and fatalities numbers are in the same ballpark except a few isolated countries.

So the Democratic Socialists stand around and say "Elect us and we'll cure COVID! And while were at we'll cure Climate Change! Like we did last time." Ridiculous.

chinese wuhan corona virus

Let's be apolitical for a second.

Where's the cure or treatment or vaccine for CV19? US? France? China? Russia? Korea? Brazil? I'm seeing where "everyone else is doing such a great job but us because of Trump (say like Tucker)"...but not really. There's little faith in other countries fatality numbers. Everybody else sickness and fatalities numbers are in the same ballpark except a few isolated countries.

So the Democratic Socialists stand around and say "Elect us and we'll cure COVID! And while were at we'll cure Climate Change! Like we did last time." Ridiculous. Originally Posted by gnadfly

good point especially considering no one should believe China's numbers at all. does anyone believe less than 5,000 died in China from this? i don't. so throw that number for China out the window and look at other countries that do not have a large motivation to blatantly misreport and you see exactly what you state, the US numbers are in line with the rest of the world. in some cases better like per capita death rate.


so what country did such a great job compared to the US? no one. yet the leftards want to scream "Trump is a MURDERER". ridiculous. even more ridiculous is Biden claiming he'd save us all, would have prevented any deaths, etc etc. i know Biden hasn't quite gone that far but close enough with his rhetoric.


recall it was Biden who called Trump's travel ban racist and xenophobic then later said he would have done the same thing. i guess it's not racist when Biden says it but is when Trump does it. bahhaa. Harris even had to walk back Biden's so-called national mask mandate which if he had any marbles left in his head should have known a president can't do. unless you really are some dictator with absolute control.


and back to China which does have a dictator i still do not believe their numbers. they don't have enough police or troops to enforce such lock-downs on a population has large as they have.

At least yous don’t know if it’s factual, but chose to repeats it, eh?

Get some help. WSNDs Originally Posted by HoeHummer

Like yous...https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2735287
As yous say..."get some help"

Better Lawyer Up! Originally Posted by HoeHummer

You should Barrister up!

The one constant about nature -- it don't like fake.
So... as mentioned before, the thing is reverting to it's natural self - which is not biased towards humans. Go figure. The HIV insertions are dieing off. It is mutating out or reverting back to a bat virus.

At the same time, numbers fuggery continues unabated.

Horowitz: More evidence that most coronavirus cases are now weaker than the flu

Evidence continues to mount that the new infections throughout much of the country are extremely mild, with the exception of some serious cases coming over the border from Mexico. Those two facts continue to be obscured from our policy debate over containing the virus in the southern states. The governors of California, Arizona, and Texas refuse to recognize that the mild nature of these cases is good news going forward...

Digging into the numbers fuggery a little:

...The New York Times reported on Sunday: “One-third of all patients admitted to [Miami’s] main public hospital over the past two weeks after going to the emergency room for car-crash injuries and other urgent problems have tested positive for the coronavirus.”

That is huge news that most people are not properly dissecting. Car crashes plummeted by as much as 75% in some states during the shutdown because the roads were empty. Now we are back up to normal levels of car crashes. For that matter, hospitals are now back up to normal levels of cancer, heart, stroke, and any number of procedures and treatments that were either suspended or declined because people were too scared to come in. Now that we have universal testing in the hospitals, we are merely discovering what already existed, but we never detected because hospitals were empty and we did not have universal testing capability....