I guess the Tea Party will have to rescue the GOP. McCain and Romney were squishy moderates and their actions since the elections have proven that. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
you blithering IDIOT
I guess Hillary is not that important to you as this post was about her and you've gone off on some tangent. Damn it CJ! The woman needs your support and approval after what happened in 2008. You let her down, you betrayed her, you bent her over the sofa and fucked her (OMG! What an image!. CJ and Hillary!) Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
How about those laws that dems support like free speech (not political correctness), free will (being opposed to gay marriage like Obama 2009), and just freedom in general (Obamacare)?Who said I take exception to the above? But I am capable of seeing it from both sides, unlike most. For example, under George Bush people lost their freedom under the Patriot Act. Definition of "income" is too vague to debate, but plenty lost jobs and income under Bush, especially in the end. And plenty of people lost their lives in the wars Bush started.
Under democratic regimes people have lost their freedom (the film maker that Obama said was responsible for Benghazi), their income (bakers and CEOs of software companies), and their lives (Miriam Carey) at the hands of an oppressive government.
Now you can take exception to the above but a smart person would give us examples of where it occurred under GOP regimes instead going all snark. Good luck with that. Oh, if it occurred in California then it was under a democratic regime even if Bush was President. It has to be a local response.
I just heard that Filthy Filner was out of the joint. Had a couple of nice tats. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
I guess Hillary is not that important to you as this post was about her and you've gone off on some tangent.. CDamn it CJ! The woman needs your support and approval after what happened in 2008. You let her down, you betrayed her, you bent her over the sofa and fucked her (OMG! What an image!. CJ and Hillary!) Originally Posted by JD BarleycornIf Hillary can't count on CBJ7 and WTF she can't count on the nomination. Better get your Austin Reach around Crew in line bigkotex...or in circle rather.
Personally I think Bush and Obama are equally despicable and Hillary will be just as bad. But as a capitalist first and foremost, gotta go with a dem in '16 unless the repubs run some one who is not a bible thumper (not holding my breath on that one though). Originally Posted by nwarounderIf Hillary is just as despicable as W and Obama, and the Republican candidate in 2016 will be even worse, why vote for either of them? We have to break out of the mentality that only Republicans or Democrats can be elected. Otherwise, there is no hope.
If Hillary is just as despicable as W and Obama, and the Republican candidate in 2016 will be even worse, why vote for either of them? We have to break out of the mentality that only Republicans or Democrats can be elected. Otherwise, there is no hope. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyCOG - you are right, there is no hope at the present. I think we should give your people their land back and restart the whole nation, in exchange for Texas Independence.
If Hillary is just as despicable as W and Obama, and the Republican candidate in 2016 will be even worse, why vote for either of them? We have to break out of the mentality that only Republicans or Democrats can be elected. Otherwise, there is no hope. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyI want someone that will protect my investments, we can debate ideology all day long and we would probably agree on most issues as I am somewhat of a libertarian, but at the end of the day I am going to financially support the candidate that I have the most to gain, financially. I figured out a long time ago if you have enough money, you can buy your way out of and dem or repub led law.