I think there should be rules regarding pictures!

WE1911, name some names of showcases with old pictures that you are aware of.....work with the members to help improve the data provided under the given rules, instead of complaining about something you cannot control. Use those 3 degrees for the common good here, instead of to feed your own superiority complex and ego (which is kinda' ugly to watch).

Shea V, I remember thanking you for updating your pictures earlier this year. The new ones, like the old ones, are well done, sexy and tasteful. And. Congratulations on losing so much weight! (Perhaps not the way you wanted to lose it, but it is gone just the same!)

I recently saw a lady with really old pictures...I knew it goin in....I should have left when I arrived....I was flim-flammed and hood-winked by a lady who was clearly advertising her younger prettier self. My research failed me. I blamed myself not her. I made the best of it. Laughed to myself about it during the session and left. Will I see her again? Not likely. Will I write a review? Sure. I dont usually write reviews any more, but in this situation i will because other guys need the info for their research too. Many reviews have helped me. Many reviews are worthless.

It's true that a picture is worth a thousand words, but better research and listening to your gut feelings are worth the time and effort every time. That is why this is called a hobby....you have to figure it out to get good at it. Not every hobby event will be your best or new favorite hobby event. Also, many of the ladies are here hobbying too....they are figuring this ever changing electronic network of social networks out just like we are. It certainly is not a perfect system...and it still works pretty well. Originally Posted by Invisible1

How about this - get some Premium Access and read the ROS and you will hear plenty of comments where hobbyist mentions outdated pics- virtually on a daily basis- most recently it has been stated that Kitty Lamour pics are old and the age is incorrect- not trying to pick on her, but that is one of the most recent providers that has been accused of using dated pics. Also, since you have issues with my mentioning of 3 degrees- do you have any issues with Shea boasting that she has a real life job/has sold many cars and the fact that she believes she is the grammar police? Nope- because you are being so much of a WK- go schedule with her and perhaps you can report back wK- and while you are there- see if she agrees to allow you to post pics.

Excellent comment Shea! Originally Posted by WOMBAT

Not really because:

1) A lot of them do,

and

2) One is a customer, the other is a business.

from a scale from 1-10(10 being hot) what do you rank shea..face wise ? for those that have seen her of course ....? Originally Posted by glade55

10+
Simple!

We met about 3 years ago at one of the last events I attended. Then I stepped out for awhile. Excuses weren't made at all.

I never agreed with the intent of deception. In fact, I'm strongly against it. Point it out to me that I condoned the alleged action. It wasn't stated.

If a lady goes out of her way to falsely advertise, she's definitely in the wrong. I didn't say it was ok to deliberately mislead someone.

The only thing I said was if it's been awhile since updates and she's dealing with other important issues, it may fall to the bottom of the to-do list until she can get to it. A lot of things happen in the background that can't be avoided or we're not aware of.

The cancellation fees don't relate to deception instances, emergencies or cases of someone overbooking and radio silence. It usually applies when neither party clicks shortly after arrival or solid plans have fallen apart at the very last minute pertaining to detailed arrangements. As for travel, that's where deposits may be discussed.

My track record? LOL! Get over yourself. I have quite a lot of pics I've never used and decided against posting them for various reasons, including lack of editing & release forms. As mentioned previously, I don't publish subpar images.

Want my images updated again? Pay for them. I've been busy dealing with much more important issues than worrying if someone's going to get bent about something that I don't have the energy nor means to address right now.

A lot of posts were not nice until I finally got tired of the '3 degrees' tossed around. He was able to share opinions. Communication is awesome.

Immunity to criticism .... Pfft. Per usual, you can't resist trolling.

. Originally Posted by Shea Veile

Once again, you are missing the point. No biggie. Not sure why you are also choosing to make snide comments about lingerie shopping without me. I had plenty of opportunities to see you in Dallas and chose against it. While you are/were a beautiful young woman this thread here is the exact reason I didnt. WE911 didn't deserve the rude comment you made. Out of left field and unnecessary. Your FIRST post in the thread set your tone. Not any latter posts. And your first reply to WE911 was cunty at best.

But keep on with your defiant and condescending attitude.

Just a opinion from another hobbyist...there is so much talk about the expense of photo shoots. True, they can be very expensive, but the majority of providers don't have professional photos on their sites. With the quality of cell phone cameras these days, take a few new pics every few months and post them. If your pics are 10 years old, like a couple of providers I ran across, then a hobbyist should walk with no cancellation fee. I didn't and consider it a part of my hobbying education. The only other thing I would ask of providers, is that if you are going to post pics with make-up on, have some make-up on. Don't look like you've been cleaning your place all morning.

I find it funny that guys are called 'cheap bastards' when we don't want to pay HDH-ish rates...for an hour. When our hour is up, we don't make money off what happened in that past hour. That's money lost forever.

With a photoshoot, even if it costs quite a bit, is an investment for the provider, which leads to her possibly making MORE MONEY.

They (some) don't want to pay into something that could increase future income, but want us guys to basically burn money on an hourly basis.

What THE FUCK kind of thinking is that!?!

10+���� face

I didn't give a pass to anything nor backtracking. You're reaching for more than what was stated. Selective reading -- as is the norm.

My first & following posts had nothing to do with condoning blatant deception. Read them again.


My most current pics are posted on my showcase (already stated previously). They're not outdated. Blast me all you want to. It won't constructively accomplish anything.

The only thing difference between the time frame and now is the fact my weight has dropped so fast, I can't keep up. Rather than happy, I'm concerned and apprehensive because I don't know why or where it's leading to.


I don't care if you see me or not. Plenty of others that will. (The last census in 2010 documented at least 7 million people in the Metroplex. Not sure what the numbers are now but they've steadily climbed.)

You're just mad I have a backbone and speak up. It has nothing to do with your beliefs that I appear (to you) defensive. I don't mince words nor sugarcoat them. Imply tone as you feel it's needed.


When the boasting of degrees and careers came up is when I fired back. The post eluded to the ladies being unskilled and unemployed. Not fair and not true. Get it right.

Yea, I sold plenty of cars and have had other common jobs over the years. However, my educational background and current employment is based in marketing & merchandising.


Cunty. Great! That's awesome! It's your perception to twist however you want to. Do you really think it chips away at my day? Not in the least.


My face -- I get approached by men all the time. In the middle of the store, the bank, the gas station, even the dry cleaners ... just about anywhere.

The bottom line is let the ladies handle their lives and business. They're doing the best they can with what they have. If you want to write a review about your experience, fine -- it is a mens' board, afterall.

Haters. Love 'em or leave 'em!


Oh, before I log off (duties call) -- a big shoutout and heartfelt thank you to the men I've had the pleasure to enjoy time with.


.

You felt the need to reply, felt the need to make this about you, felt the need to bring up your medical issues. Sorry you didn't like the outcome.

WE1911,
My post was not intended to be a WK post.
Updated photos are very useful, but are not the whole answer to the equation of researching a provider.
You provided a good example with KittyLamour...... further research beyond her pictures will help most decide whether to see her or not.

This is a hobby. This is not an on-line department store. This is not what you see is what you get. Updated pictures can mislead as much as outdated pictures.

WE1911, I guess it would be a problem having such a large wellendowed member as you and needing 3 degrees to decide who to share it with. Hey, I would rather just look at up to date picture books too, but that is not how this hobby works. Sorry if I offended you. I was just surprised you needed to pull rank with your 3 DEGREES and then rant about how grammar was not necessary here. It just seemed like hot air and a wounded male superiority complex....so I noted it.

Guys are visual. Hot pictures lure us in. Researching helps us make the final decision to bite the hook or not.

Poor researching can lead to a not so great experience. ....or worse. When my research is lacking, my BCD time usually suffers too.

Hey, I am in favor of updated pictures too, but it is stupid to think that it can be enforced in the eccie environment. P411 does a little better with verified pictures, but they can be misleading too. And, the ladies here are doing the best each of them can or is willing to do with their pictures. It is the ladies's hobby too.

Happy Hobbying!

We met about 3 years ago at one of the last events I attended. Then I stepped out for awhile. Excuses weren't made at all.

I never agreed with the intent of deception. In fact, I'm strongly against it. Point it out to me that I condoned the alleged action. It wasn't stated.

If a lady goes out of her way to falsely advertise, she's definitely in the wrong. I didn't say it was ok to deliberately mislead someone.

The only thing I said was if it's been awhile since updates and she's dealing with other important issues, it may fall to the bottom of the to-do list until she can get to it. A lot of things happen in the background that can't be avoided or we're not aware of.

The cancellation fees don't relate to deception instances, emergencies or cases of someone overbooking and radio silence. It usually applies when neither party clicks shortly after arrival or solid plans have fallen apart at the very last minute pertaining to detailed arrangements. As for travel, that's where deposits may be discussed.

My track record? LOL! Get over yourself. I have quite a lot of pics I've never used and decided against posting them for various reasons, including lack of editing & release forms. As mentioned previously, I don't publish subpar images.

Want my images updated again? Pay for them. I've been busy dealing with much more important issues than worrying if someone's going to get bent about something that I don't have the energy nor means to address right now.

A lot of posts were not nice until I finally got tired of the '3 degrees' tossed around. He was able to share opinions. Communication is awesome.

Immunity to criticism .... Pfft. Per usual, you can't resist trolling.




. Originally Posted by Shea Veile

Exactly, whenever someone has no witty reply they use the trolling card.

You came out of the gate with a major case of bitchitus. I could tell from post 1 that you aren't worth a visit. Like I said in my post one- don't like the room-feel free to leave!!

If you are hot, which you may just be, it doesn't make you a better fuck, just a more entitled one.

How about this - get some Premium Access and read the ROS and you will hear plenty of comments where hobbyist mentions outdated pics- virtually on a daily basis- most recently it has been stated that Kitty Lamour pics are old and the age is incorrect- not trying to pick on her, but that is one of the most recent providers that has been accused of using dated pics. Also, since you have issues with my mentioning of 3 degrees- do you have any issues with Shea boasting that she has a real life job/has sold many cars and the fact that she believes she is the grammar police? Nope- because you are being so much of a WK- go schedule with her and perhaps you can report back wK- and while you are there- see if she agrees to allow you to post pics. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

That's all he knows how to be he is after all invisible by nature and must jump to ladies aide, then he smooches a little pooch, then he flirts and asks for time. That's his move. These fucking WK's never learn, it's never coming for free or even a discount. These ladies will see you if you pass their screening. No need to be such a puss puss all the time. Ladies don't respect that. You just end up being their gay besty while me and W.E. are banging their brains in.

WE1911,
My post was not intended to be a WK post.
Updated photos are very useful, but are not the whole answer to the equation of researching a provider.
You provided a good example with KittyLamour...... further research beyond her pictures will help most decide whether to see her or not.

This is a hobby. This is not an on-line department store. This is not what you see is what you get. Updated pictures can mislead as much as outdated pictures.

WE1911, I guess it would be a problem having such a large wellendowed member as you and needing 3 degrees to decide who to share it with. Hey, I would rather just look at up to date picture books too, but that is not how this hobby works. Sorry if I offended you. I was just surprised you needed to pull rank with your 3 DEGREES and then rant about how grammar was not necessary here. It just seemed like hot air and a wounded male superiority complex....so I noted it.

Guys are visual. Hot pictures lure us in. Researching helps us make the final decision to bite the hook or not.

Poor researching can lead to a not so great experience. ....or worse. When my research is lacking, my BCD time usually suffers too.

Hey, I am in favor of updated pictures too, but it is stupid to think that it can be enforced in the eccie environment. P411 does a little better with verified pictures, but they can be misleading too. And, the ladies here are doing the best each of them can or is willing to do with their pictures. It is the ladies's hobby too.

Happy Hobbying! Originally Posted by Invisible1

grammar isn't important. Do you understand what he said?? You know who worries about grammar? People who have nothing witty to say. They finally say "fuck you" or "you're a troll" or "nice grammar".

Wow the lady in question used two of those. I guess she thought her apparent good looks would be enough for everyone to run and hide. It really sucks when their isn't any substance behind them.

Wow. Quite a thread. RW allows inaccurate graphics and untrue descriptions in product or service advertising, thanks to lib Progressives anything goes policies. why not in the oldestbusiness in history? However there is usually sufficient intelligence available in Eccie. P411. THER. To determine the age of the photos. Research is your friend.

I didn't give a pass to anything nor backtracking. You're reaching for more than what was stated. Selective reading -- as is the norm.

My first & following posts had nothing to do with condoning blatant deception. Read them again.


My most current pics are posted on my showcase (already stated previously). They're not outdated. Blast me all you want to. It won't constructively accomplish anything.

The only thing difference between the time frame and now is the fact my weight has dropped so fast, I can't keep up. Rather than happy, I'm concerned and apprehensive because I don't know why or where it's leading to.


I don't care if you see me or not. Plenty of others that will. (The last census in 2010 documented at least 7 million people in the Metroplex. Not sure what the numbers are now but they've steadily climbed.)

You're just mad I have a backbone and speak up. It has nothing to do with your beliefs that I appear (to you) defensive. I don't mince words nor sugarcoat them. Imply tone as you feel it's needed.


When the boasting of degrees and careers came up is when I fired back. The post eluded to the ladies being unskilled and unemployed. Not fair and not true. Get it right.

Yea, I sold plenty of cars and have had other common jobs over the years. However, my educational background and current employment is based in marketing & merchandising.


Cunty. Great! That's awesome! It's your perception to twist however you want to. Do you really think it chips away at my day? Not in the least.


My face -- I get approached by men all the time. In the middle of the store, the bank, the gas station, even the dry cleaners ... just about anywhere.

The bottom line is let the ladies handle their lives and business. They're doing the best they can with what they have. If you want to write a review about your experience, fine -- it is a mens' board, afterall.

Haters. Love 'em or leave 'em!


Oh, before I log off (duties call) -- a big shoutout and heartfelt thank you to the men I've had the pleasure to enjoy time with.


. Originally Posted by Shea Veile

Can you summarize this in 10 words or less?

You know Shea, you came out hard. I backed away because I wasn't sure if you were having a bad day or just had a bad hobby experience left in your mouth. In any case you came out hard on a guy who agreed with you on all but 1 point. You turned an ally into an enemy with a sophomoric insult.

The op's post was crazy at best. Ban a lady, WTF, we want all the ladies we can get around here. Another thread was posted a few days ago, it happens. Non stop it happens. We recycle the same threads over and over and over and over.

Guys bitch, that's what we do. Through out our lives we are always bitching about something and as we age we always remember the better times (you know the ones we bitched about when they actually happened.)

It's what we do, it doesn't stop us from doing stuff, we just wanna bitch sometimes and when we do we aren't looking for anything other then a little bitch session. We all have our vices. I'm sure you have stuff you like to do, we are built the way we are built.

On a side note, I bought this butter (Kerrygold pure irish butter). Yum the fuck Yum. I'm literally just eating french bread and this butter it is so good.