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What part of "It isn't Biden's fault, or Trumps. We were too stupid to learn from the Soviet Afghan experience or from VN." is too complicated for you to comprehend? Originally Posted by Old-T

Denigrating the intellectual comprehension of another poster is insulting, inappropriate, and aginst teh 'Rules ' - old T
Try posting a legitimate argument supporting a point of debate - for a change for a Communist dupe minion.



Try quoting the Communist Manifesto, or Das kapital.
Trump is no longer POTUS - yet the DPST communists have nothing other than to blame Trump for all their own criminality and subversion of Aemrican representative democracy!

What is becoming very clear today according to Former General Jack Keane, Biden fucked up this with drawl in two big ways. Whether Trump could have, would have done it any better, we will never know.


(1) we should have kept Bagram Air Base. This idea that we can provide addaquate air support from afar, can now be clearly seen as a failure of strategic thinking.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-giv...se-11621463794


Why Give Away Bagram Air Base?

Wedged between Iran and China, the Afghanistan location can’t be beat.

We - the American Peoples - will pay teh price for both these- and many other fiden Communist directed acts of sabotage against America and its' Peoples
IMHO - HF
Clyburn engineered teh totally incompetent fiden into the Oval Office - he should be at the head of the line for prosecution for sedition.

What is becoming very clear today according to Former General Jack Keane, Biden fucked up this with drawl in two big ways. Whether Trump could have, would have done it any better, we will never know.

.. Originally Posted by HedonistForever

We know the NE Patriots sucked last year. They had "Superman" supposedly at QB. Not that "washed up" guy. Whatever happened to him? Oh yeah.

H I M had supposedly negotiated a condition-based withdrawal, which Biden supposedly has fucked up.

As I said in post #18. The Taliban is a group of ruthless Muslim Fundamentalist who will cut your throat because you are not.

When are we going to realize that it is still all about Islam. These religious thugs have not gone away. Their aim is still to destroy all things Western, all things that are not what they are.

If Islam did not exist, if billions did not follow the dictates of a 12th century pedophile. Think how much better the world would be. Originally Posted by Jackie S

I agree with you regarding the Taliban.

There are, as of 2015, 1.8 BILLION Muslims in the world. Probably many more today since Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. There are approximately 3.45 Muslims living in the U.S. The overwhelming majority of them live as peaceful lives as you or I. They just happen to practice a different religion. How many crimes do you know of that have been committed by Muslims in this country? Yet Islamaphobia runs rampant.

I have visited the primarily Muslim countries of Turkey, Morocco, Indonesia, and Malaysia. At no time did I feel unsafe and at no time was I ever treated without the utmost in courtesy and respect.

Does the Quran say to kill Non-Muslims?

Terrorists abroad and Islamophobes at home are busy abusing Islam while building on each other’s hate. Both groups claim that God commands Muslims to kill non-Muslims wherever they find them.

The fact, however, is that a Muslim will be punished in this world under the law for killing someone. S/he will also be banished to Hellfire by God in the afterlife unless s/he repents, reinstates his or her faith, and lives a life of good deeds (Quran 25:68-70).

Many of our neighbors are confused by the persistent propaganda by Islamophobes that it is not terrorists but “Islam itself” that is the problem.

https://www.soundvision.com/article/...ll-non-muslims

As your fiden adminsitration - 'we blame Trump for teh situation in Afghanistan
If Trump had sent social workers to communicate with the Taliban - become brides, and convert to islam - we would not be in this situation.

Just as our moral imperative to Defund-Disarm-Destroy all police as heretical instruments of teh Trump administration failed policies - we must continue our path to satiate the Taliban no matter the cost.'



thank U - senile Joe!

What is becoming very clear today according to Former General Jack Keane, Biden fucked up this with drawl in two big ways. Whether Trump could have, would have done it any better, we will never know.

(1) we should have kept Bagram Air Base. This idea that we can provide addaquate air support from afar, can now be clearly seen as a failure of strategic thinking.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-giv...se-11621463794

Why Give Away Bagram Air Base?

Wedged between Iran and China, the Afghanistan location can’t be beat.

The Biden administration’s decision to remove all U.S. forces from Afghanistan could cost the country an important strategic asset, the Bagram Air Base. For years, the base has been conducting tactical air operations in support of American and Afghan troops. Bagram is 40 miles north of Kabul and is impressive in size: The installation covers about 30 square miles. Its 12,000-foot runway can accommodate U.S. military aircraft of any size.

The location is also strategic, to say the least: Bagram is about 400 miles west of China and about 500 miles east of Iran. This is a good place to have American assets. Keeping the base open could hardly be called a provocation, given it’s been around for years. But manning this base requires a continued military presence in Afghanistan, which would also ensure the country doesn’t return to being a base for terrorists.

All of this is reason to oppose removing all U.S. troops. The better course would be keeping enough troops in the country to maintain Bagram and support for Afghan troops in resisting the Taliban.
There is a good reason why the Taliban wants Americans completely out of Afghanistan. As long as the U.S. keeps troops there and supports the Afghan government, the Taliban won’t prevail, even if they take over much of the country, which would hardly be easy. American troops can provide training and air support without engaging in ground combat. Anything the Taliban agrees to for the purpose of ensuring complete withdrawal, such as breaking ties with al Qaeda in the landmark 2020 agreement, is never to be taken seriously. The Taliban knows it can never be completely successful as long as there are U.S. military personnel in the country.

(2) we decided to do this during the height of the fighting season. This is why we now have to send back 3,000 troops to try and protect and get all Americans out of Kabul. Nobody could see that coming for God's sake? Why didn't we do this while they were still hold up in their mountain retreats?

Biden fucked this up just like he fucked up the border and he will pay the price for both mistakes.

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

What you say is true -- we don't know whether Trump would have done any better. Did Trump propose keeping Bagram Air Base in his proposed May withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan?

Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan, while knocking his successor's timeline for doing so.

Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline and added that "we should keep as close to that schedule as possible."

"I wish Joe Biden wouldn't use September 11 as the date to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan, for two reasons. First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough, in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said, adding: "September 11 represents a very sad event and period for ur Country and should remain a day of reflection and remembrance honoring those great souls we lost."


I can find nothing that would suggest Trump would have kept troops at Bagram or provided support for Afghan troops. So it's difficult to condemn Biden without also condemning Trump.

The height of the fighting season? Would a May withdrawal of troops made a difference? Predicting the fall of Afghanistan back to the Taliban was hardly a difficult prediction to make, whether we withdrew in May or September.

as usual - no documentation , support, facts , or truth from the communist DPSTs.

H I M had supposedly negotiated a condition-based withdrawal, which Biden supposedly has fucked up. Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong

That may or may not be true but what is true is that the Taliban would not live up to any condition-based withdrawal.

We haven't won a war since WWII, because the politicians ran them afterwards.

That may or may not be true .... Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Well you got something right.
Lemme put it in red text.

One thing correct


The Communist DPST LSM narrative is quick to correct deficiencies such as that.

Denigrating the intellectual comprehension of another poster is insulting, inappropriate, and aginst teh 'Rules ' - old T
Try posting a legitimate argument supporting a point of debate - for a change for a Communist dupe minion.



Try quoting the Communist Manifesto, or Das kapital.
Trump is no longer POTUS - yet the DPST communists have nothing other than to blame Trump for all their own criminality and subversion of Aemrican representative democracy! Originally Posted by oeb11

Well, when someone clearly misunderstands simple statements I have to logically assume either:
1. They are too complicated for you. Or
2. You intentionally pretend not to understand them.

So rather than offend any snowflakes on here, why don't you pick.

As to quoting anything, there is no need. It isn't a ideological issue, it is a simple inability or unwillingness to comprehend. When someone does it so often I do start to suspect it is both.

Strange. You call it "Typical BS from the RWWs" then you basically enforce my every assertion. Perhaps you need to re-read my post. BTW, this happened on Biden's watch. He's been President during the final pull out and he was vice president during 8 years of this mess. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Actually you reinforce my point very clearly.

The reality is this was a very stupid decision near 20 years ago. Just as with VN, a stupid decision is made by one administration and then the subsequent ones seem incapable of extracting from it without a disaster. True in Nam, true now.

ALL the administrations over those 20 years are at fault, especially the one that started it. This is not a Dem or Rep thing, it's a screwed up US thing. But it is posts like yours that ONLY see the times the Dems were in charge and pretend the Reps (at least Trump) is a pristine cherub. That is the RWW BS I was referring to. Trump couldn't fix it if he had had three terms--and that is not a hit on him. Neither could Biden. But too many RRWs are genetically incapable of saying any such thing. To them everything bad (and everything they can spin as bad) must be a Liberal Commie Plot otherwise the universe will end today.

And no, that does not support your points.