Whos first in line? lol

I mean with the mentality that 500 is ok because only guys that can burn money can afford it, why not charge 1000 or 2000? These same guys that throw money away at 500 would still pay 1000 or 2000 right? It really wouldn't matter to them financially. Originally Posted by royamcr

Roy,

The more you post on this topic, the more you come across as a someone with a mouth full of sour grapes.

We get it--$500 is more than you wish to spend. So move on.

But now it seems you are at least as interested in bashing her regardless of price. But put that aside--the reality is $500 is not inherently "too much", "too little", or "just right". It all depends on the gentleman in question and what HE believes it is worth to him at that time.

You are probably correct, the norm is probably closer to $200-300. There are some in the $20 range, and some in the $25,000 range. And no, they are far from interchangeable to the guys paying the freight.

I know some $25K ladies (no, I never paid that or anything close to it). I know what the men who pay that are looking for. They keep coming back, so they must thing it is worth it to them. I have been to events with some of those ladies--no, they were NOT my date for the evening--and watching I can very definitely tell why some guys are willing to pay that.

I have on occasion paid $500 or more, not all the time. Almost without exception the experience has been very different than the $200 ones. But if all you are looking for is to drop your pants and run through a checklist, maybe the differences do not matter to you. Nothing wrong with that, but don't try to understand whether the difference is worth it to someone else if you don't value the differences.

If this particular lady isn't worth that price to enough guys, the price will adjust. Until that happens you can probably assume she is getting enough business to meet her business model's needs. There are a lot of ladies who would rather see two dates a week at $500 that five dates at $250. It isn't all about the gross; their time has value to them as well.

Generally, I've found with clients who want to see me for days at a time or who want to book a trip with me do not write reviews, nor are they even familiar with review sites. The big fish don't have time for it. Originally Posted by GemmaFox

I agree, and I will take it a step farther. The REALLY big fish will often skip over ladies who do have reviews.

Generally, I've found with clients who want to see me for days at a time or who want to book a trip with me do not write reviews, nor are they even familiar with review sites. The big fish don't have time for it. Originally Posted by GemmaFox

Yep ... more often than not they aren't reviewers.

I have no data but I think I'm safe in saying that over 80% of hour long appts fit in that range. Originally Posted by royamcr

Even assuming your estimate is correct ("I have no data, but..."), that means 20% are outside that range. And if it is a standard bell curve, half will be below and half will be above. Meaning 10% of providers are above $300 per hour. Why is one asking $500 so disturbing?

In my mind she is a different hooker now Originally Posted by royamcr

Very interesting there roy...

You've never seen her, don't want to see her but somehow from some sort of telepathy known only to you, it has been determined that she is a "different hooker now".

Tell us stud, what's "different"?

Oh and while We're on the subject, here's a showcase you can have some more fun with...and she's running a special...

http://www.eccie.net/providers.php?do=view&id=105316

I was considering flying her in but I can't get with the CBJ....

I am not going to fault her or the guys that see her for 500. I will say that her communication skills were beyond pathetic. I know, I know, she was a student and worked blah blah blah. When I was in college worked my ass off because there wasnt much handed to me, but if there was something that had even a minor urgency and doing something I could find the time. 20 or 30 minutes a day is not hard to come by especially if you dont have kids. One message saying "Hey, Im not going to have free time for a while" is the most basic of responses that could have changed my opinion.

I said it before that I dont think she belonged on P411 because of her lack of any response. Men pay for the service and providers agree to be responsive when they sign up for the service. I can deal with a girl not caring to meet me. I think it shows very poorly on P411 that they did nothing about her lack of response. I have an expectation of basic professionalism when I contact a provider through their service. When I contacted their support they said they would send her a message to be more responsive and I heard nothing. I contacted their support again and they blew me off. I was not rude, but I did point to their page that said (at least at the time) that the providers are expected to be responsive.

I hope things work out for her and that if she really returns to the hobby that she becomes at least mildly responsive. If not she does not deserve any rate and she should be removed from P411. I dont really believe with fucking with a girls money in regards to the hobby unless I have had a legit issue with her. But I do think P411 sells itself as having professional responsive providers and she didnt belong on their site before (please let us know if she becomes responsive) and I lost a lot of respect for P411 for allowing someone who at the time had such horrible responsiveness to remain on their site in spite of the terms that the girls agree to when they sign up. I consider myself pretty lenient in regards to communication, but I just blows my mind that P411 apparently has no interest in getting girls to be responsive past a message to the girl that can ignore it.

So she is hot, she had great reviews, but her communication was such a shit show that she needs to earn a reputation of being half way responsive before I would take her off my ignore list on P411.

Guess you didn't see her on the list of my reviews...

Nice looking LV gal, but ya CBJ is no go.

Very interesting there roy...

You've never seen her, don't want to see her but somehow from some sort of telepathy known only to you, it has been determined that she is a "different hooker now".

Tell us stud, what's "different"?

Oh and while We're on the subject, here's a showcase you can have some more fun with...and she's running a special...

http://www.eccie.net/providers.php?do=view&id=105316

I was considering flying her in but I can't get with the CBJ.... Originally Posted by malwoody

To be fair, if I responded to every inquiry I decided to refuse (for whatever reason, and no one has to justify it to you) then 90% of the time I would be met with arguing and pouting from them asking why I won't see them and blowing up my phone or emails. Or, when it gets extra fun, they decide to threaten me. Not worth it. Just moveeeee on.

To be fair, if I responded to every inquiry I decided to refuse (for whatever reason, and no one has to justify it to you) then 90% of the time I would be met with arguing and pouting from them asking why I won't see them and blowing up my phone or emails. Or, when it gets extra fun, they decide to threaten me. Not worth it. Just moveeeee on. Originally Posted by GemmaFox

To be fair she committed to being responsive when she joined P411. Notice I dont complain about her not being responsive here. That is a paid service and there are listed expectations for the girls when they sign up. She did have a login here and she wasnt responsive here either. I dont have the same expectations of providers here because I don't pay for the service and I dont think it has as one of the things committed to by the provider that she responds in a reasonable time.

As I said, I put her on my exclude list so I dont see her profile anymore. I also think very negatively on P411 because of their response. She didnt belong on that service at the time. Providers certainly deserve a chance to have secure tools for screening, but her disregard for what she committed too was enough to do something about. I was always polite, I have a decent number of Okays, and I tried giving more heads up on when I wanted to meet and also gave large windows of time of when I was free.

Also, it became pretty clear quickly that she had this issue for a very large number of guys. All the guys she met seemed to love her. Good for them. But she without question was not doing what she committed to when she was on P411 at that time. Its a new day so maybe that will change. But it still remains that her membership on P411 was an embarrassment for P411 in my mind. We all miss messages. We all make mistakes. Her lack of any communication was so blatant that it was beyond acceptable as a provider on P411.

In this particular case, defending her lack of communication on that site has no legitimate justification.

"Maybe we need to call the Waambulance."
Juan Banda aka Dennis

The topic of this misguided thread is "whos first in line". It was and is not an open forum to bash Rachel May for her choice of donation rate or her communication/TCB skills or to gripe and whine incessantly about P411's handling of her account because of something that happened or didn't happen almost TWO YEARS AGO. Take that complaint to Gina.

None of that is justified, so grow up! I should have made this reminder much sooner and handed out points to several of you for hijacking the thread, in hopes the thread would get back on topic, but alas, the complaining off topic continued.

Not any more. Either post that you are getting in line or not getting in line or accept the points you will receive as your reward for not following instructions.

Have a good day.

How is commenting on her terrible communication for a reason to not be in line off topic? It was still relevant to what she was doing just a few months ago so it is not out of date either.

Providing details on her past behavior is not bashing, it is not disrespecting her, it does not violate any rules. It is the truth and a reason to not stay in line long for her if she still does that.

So in this reply I am reaffirming that I will not see her because of her terrible communication with me and with others during her entire time active which includes her behavior into early spring or so when she went dark. By all accounts she was good to great BCD, but by many more accounts she she didn't have the slightest bit of responsiveness.

And as far as my complaints about p411, it was there to provide context to how bad I viewed her lack off communication. My perception of her communication issue was so bad that she drags down my view of a service most people rave over. I don't complain about many girls communication skills including ncns as long as there isn't a pattern. She is the second girl I have brought up to p411 support. The first was over an okay and resolved quickly. Her issue was not resolved and blown off even though it is against their rules.

To my knowledge p411 is the only way to meet her and that was where her responsiveness was terrible. My descriptions of her communication may seem hash but they are accurate and deserved. So again, this comment is clearly on topic because it gives context to how I came about my views for why I won't get in line for her and what I view people should be aware of if they do want to see her. This is not bashing her. She earned these views about her communication during her entire run and not just when she started. This was clearly a pattern and relevant until she shows a pattern of the mildest level of communication.

For anyone thinking about seeing her, she had great reviews. She appears to be very attractive. She has a clear earned reputation for lack off communication though. That cannot be argued and it is 100% on topic.

Well, br, you stayed true to your online persona and reputation since joining this site; arguing simply for the sake of arguing. Nice job keeping up appearances and staying true to your personality.

You have made your point regarding Rachel May several times in several threads, so it is now time for you to leave it alone, move on and grow up like all big boys do.

My points wand is warmed up and ready to fly.

I'm getting in line as soon as I collect next months rent on my condo in Vail..

Why is one asking $500 so disturbing? Originally Posted by KCQuestor

Apparently it disturbs the cry babies who cannot afford to play at that level

Guess you didn't see her on the list of my reviews... Originally Posted by royamcr

Correct, I forgot that you had seen her but then I realized your obsession..apparently she declined a second date..

To be fair, if I responded to every inquiry I decided to refuse (for whatever reason, and no one has to justify it to you) then 90% of the time I would be met with arguing and pouting from them asking why I won't see them and blowing up my phone or emails. Or, when it gets extra fun, they decide to threaten me. Not worth it. Just moveeeee on. Originally Posted by GemmaFox

Yeah..I think it's called a business decision. I'm self employed and make similar decisions from time to time. If Ms May has read any of this, I'm sure there are at least two more names added to her DNS list if they weren't there already.