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How do the providers know it's him? Does he call them and say "hey I'm tatas, I'm going to give you a shitty review on a site that is well known for its hostility towards women, when can I come over?"

How do they know it's him. Or you or me?

How do the providers know it's him? Does he call them and say "hey I'm tatas, I'm going to give you a shitty review on a site that is well known for its hostility towards women, when can I come over?"

How do they know it's him. Or you or me? Originally Posted by yinz2016

I am guessing the smart ones ask for vouches. I also have a feeling the girls he did see didn't ask for vouches because they seemed to be either new/cheap.

If he was under a new identity, he'd be causing some type of argument. Especially how he's being put down right now.

I don't think providers know it's him....just look at the last 50 providers reviewed in the Independent Reviews; tell me, how many ask for vouches? I'd be shocked if the number was >3-5.

I also don't think guys care if he talks shit on providers. I don't think providers avoid this site b/c of tats. I don't think most guys care if a guy talks shit about a provider they haven't seen. (For example, on this thread, a guy that hasn't seen Jinny called her a liar, and implied she was a used up old whore. Did anyone here get offended, or defend her?).

I think that's all just rationalization.

I have been a member here for two years now and at TOS for a much longer time. I can agree TOS is a sugar coated fairy tale land for the most part where real information rarely finds the light of day. Occasionally, there is some good intel in the Guys Room. I also agree that ECCIE has the best intel of any site in this area. I rarely post, sometimes I post a review on a lady I have met, or provide intel in the Requests and ISO forum if I have information no one else has posted on yet. I also agree, that ECCIE has a more derogatory/masogynistic vibe that turns off many providers that I have talked to. I am not a fan of the 13 year old locker room mentality of many of the posters, which is a good reason why I don't post a lot. I have no interest in being a white knight, and find no value looking like one for pointing out that in general, people should be treated with respect. You can deliver an honest message without being a complete tool, but some people get off on it. My response, is keep mostly quiet, get what good intel I can, share when I can add something of value, and get on with the good times with the ladies instead of wasting time mincing words with trolls and fucktards who never emotionally progressed past middle school. Occasionally, I will let out a sigh and think wouldn't it be a much better site if we all treated each other with a little more respect, but I am a realist and just move on.

I don't think providers know it's him....just look at the last 50 providers reviewed in the Independent Reviews; tell me, how many ask for vouches? I'd be shocked if the number was >3-5.

I also don't think guys care if he talks shit on providers. I don't think providers avoid this site b/c of tats. I don't think most guys care if a guy talks shit about a provider they haven't seen. (For example, on this thread, a guy that hasn't seen Jinny called her a liar, and implied she was a used up old whore. Did anyone here get offended, or defend her?).

I think that's all just rationalization. Originally Posted by cabot

a. jinny can handle herself quite well, she can easily defend herself

b. some guys don't care if the ladies are treated like scum, some do.. some just shake their heads and think......what a bunch of fucking high school assholes

c. so tell me, in your opinion why does this site have so many fewer providers if it isn't because of tats or those who act in the same manner but possibly less vocal?

I have been a member here for two years now and at TOS for a much longer time. I also agree that ECCIE has the best intel of any site. I rarely post, I also agree, that ECCIE has a more derogatory/masogynistic vibe that turns off many providers that I have talked to. I am not a fan of the 13 year old locker room mentality of many of the posters, which is a good reason why I don't post a lot and just move on. Originally Posted by drider

Ok so what made you chime in here now on a thread not about a lady but a dude? I have to think that you are being a bit hypocritical here and popped a troll message out in a way to scold some of the more vocal villains here. But just reading the info without contributing is like that like Jack Nicholson said from a few good men "Don't complain about the manner in which it's provided, just say 'Thank you' and go on your way." otherwise it's just like another opinion. And your know what they say about opinions and cowboy hats ....sooner or later every asshole has one.

c. so tell me, in your opinion why does this site have so many fewer providers if it isn't because of tats or those who act in the same manner but possibly less vocal? Originally Posted by chizzy

Chizzy, I completely get your point about this thread, but I have to ask what site are the girls posting on in Pittsburgh? None that I am aware of. Some girls cling to Indys vouch system and wont venture elsewhere but take a look at TOS and count how many Piitsburgh girls are posting, i mean actually posting at all? Its easy enough to read the ads and posts there and reviews here.

Remember for every cool girl like Jinny, Heather or CG there is a trainwreck like Charlotte. Also some of the providers most disliked by many guys are well liked by many girls and vice versa

I personally don't believe there really are fewer providers utilizing this site for advertising.

I do believe there are fewer ladies who at all vocal on this board as compared to indys. ( uh oh, I said it)

The HUGE difference in the boards can be seen on the intro page of both.
Eccie = CLIENT information exchange

INDYS = An independant PROVIDERS advertising site.

What's so hard about that? two slants on two sites. Big whoop.
Eccie reviews are real, true.
But I've seen terms used that aren't necessary or informative. The other day in a review a lady was referred to as Social Security age.

WTF is that?
A person can receive SSI/SSD anytime in their life both social security.That's not really a reliable term as far as age.
If she's older than you thought say old.

Fuck, why do you feel it's necessary to bash. write the truth and move on. Hoodrat? say so some of ya'll seem drawn to them.

The smart lady utilizes all the sites she can if for nothing else but intelligence gathering. And the successful lady doesn't really need to place ads every day.

And,... Thank you very much Cabot. I appreciate your consideration.
My friends here would defend me if they thought I cared about that person's opinion.
They may not wanna date my old ass, but they respect me.
and I luv em for it

Something like the social security comment happens when a provider tries to market herself as younger.
None of this is personal. I view it as business and deception gets what it deserves. Guys need to be brutally honest to protect our interests and the countless fakes/scammers

c. so tell me, in your opinion why does this site have so many fewer providers if it isn't because of tats or those who act in the same manner but possibly less vocal? Originally Posted by chizzy

Hey,

That's not what I'm saying, actually. My point was that I disagreed with the initial posts in this thread, b/c they felt like rationalization - guys trying to feel like they were 'the good guys.' To try to simplify:

1) Guys don't hate tats because he treats providers like shit, (or even b/c he treated 'well-respected' providers like shit)
2) Tats is not THE reason that providers don't post here.

My reasons for believing this:

1a) Lots of guys treat girls like crap. If Tats does it- guys claim it's offensive. If other guys do it, well 'those girls can take care of themselves', or 'girls shouldn't post here anyways', and so on. That's why it seems like a rationalization for their hate of Tats.

2a) Again, lots of guys treat girls like crap. Girls didn't post here long before Tats. Tats is only on here a few days at a time, before he gets banned anyways!.. Guys flat out state that they don't want providers posting here- why would they feel welcome?

Hope that clarifies my position.

C

- Also - to clarify-I'm not saying that providers should/should not post here. I'm just stating that it's not due to any 1 guy.

I also wonder if it's even sustainable for service providers and their customers to communicate so directly about service ratings, performance, etc., In most industries, customers will find ways to communicate among themselves in order to assess the quality of services provided. Is there any reason that the prostitution industry should be fundamentally different?

2a) Again, lots of guys treat girls like crap. Girls didn't post here long before Tats. Tats is only on here a few days at a time, before he gets banned anyways!.. Guys flat out state that they don't want providers posting here- why would they feel welcome?

They really don't feel welcome here,
and they really never have, too reminiscent of ASPD attitude(s)



- Also - to clarify-I'm not saying that providers should/should not post here. I'm just stating that it's not due to any 1 guy. True, they didn't post here long before he created his online self.

I also wonder if it's even sustainable for service providers and their customers to communicate so directly about service ratings, performance, etc., In most industries, customers will find ways to communicate among themselves in order to assess the quality of services provided. Is there any reason that the prostitution industry should be fundamentally different? Originally Posted by cabot

It's not really all that different atall,
Some clients/customers prefer the "social" aspect of the boards, others do not.
The providers and their clients will always find a way to communicate among themselves and others, it's just the nature of man.

Girls didn't magically start posting on Indys when the Wolf Pack was broken up and they wont start posting here now that Tats is gone. Negative comments is only the problem for a few. Mostly the hookers in Pittsburgh just dont post. The Upset NY forum is just as full of derogatory comments as here but the girls post there

The Upset NY forum is just as full of derogatory comments as here but the girls post there Originally Posted by AmishGangster

well.... we are a lot more sophisticated in Upset....