LA Voting Rolls Have 144% of the Total Number of Eligible Residents

@OP - That problem is not specific to LA. You'll find it in just about every county in the USA. It needs to be fixed, I wish I had a good idea of how to do that.

You do realize that Obama made a policy statement that the federal government would not look for voter fraud by illegal immigrants.

There aren't any cases because the head of the government ensured it was never looked for.

There is a video of the head of the NYC election commission saying that there was wide-spread voting fraud in NYC(bussing voters between polling stations), and it was restricted to the poor areas of NYC. He got fired for saying it, and it was never investigated.

Of course there isn't any evidence of voting fraud. There can't be unless it is looked for. Originally Posted by kehaar

Good point. The guy was a Democrat and was caught on tape flaunting voter fraud.

Back to Cali, don't they register people to vote when they get driver's license and don't they have a law saying you don't have to be an American citizen to get a license?

January 31, 2017

Sensationalist claims have circulated this election season about the extent of voter fraud, with some politicians going so far as to tell voters to fear that this November’s election will be “rigged.” Because electoral integrity is one of the elements necessary to making America the greatest democracy in the world, claims like this garner media attention, and frighten and concern voters. But putting rhetoric aside to look at the facts makes clear that fraud by voters at the polls is vanishingly rare, and does not happen on a scale even close to that necessary to “rig” an election.
Studies Agree: Impersonation Fraud by Voters Very Rarely Happens

• The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”
• A study published by a Columbia University political scientist tracked incidence rates for voter fraud for two years, and found that the rare fraud that was reported generally could be traced to “false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error.”
• A 2017 analysis published in The Washington Post concluded that there is no evidence to support Trump’s claim that Massachusetts residents were bused into New Hampshire to vote.
• A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims.
• Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000-2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012-2016.
• A review of the 2016 election found four documented cases of voter fraud.
• Research into the 2016 election found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
• A 2016 working paper concluded that the upper limit on double voting in the 2012 election was 0.02%. The paper noted that the incident rate was likely much lower, given audits conducted by the researchers showed that “many, if not all, of these apparent double votes could be a result of measurement error.”
• A 2014 paper concluded that “the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0.”
• A 2014 nationwide study found “no evidence of widespread impersonation fraud” in the 2012 election.
• A 2014 study that examined impersonation fraud both at the polls and by mail ballot found zero instances in the jurisdictions studied.
• A 2014 study by the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, which reflected a literature review of the existing research on voter fraud, noted that the studies consistently found “few instances of in-person voter fraud.”
• While writing a 2012 book, a researcher went back 30 years to try to find an example of voter impersonation fraud determining the outcome of an election, but was unable to find even one.
• A 2012 study exhaustively pulled records from every state for all alleged election fraud, and found the overall fraud rate to be “infinitesimal” and impersonation fraud by voters at the polls to be the rarest fraud of all: only 10 cases alleged in 12 years. The same study found only 56 alleged cases of non-citizen voting, in 12 years.
• A 2012 assessment of Georgia’s 2006 election found “no evidence that election fraud was committed under the auspices of deceased registrants.”
• A 2011 study by the Republican National Lawyers Association found that, between 2000 and 2010, 21 states had 1 or 0 convictions for voter fraud or other kinds of voting irregularities.
• A 2010 book cataloguing reported incidents of voter fraud concluded that nearly all allegations turned out to be clerical errors or mistakes, not fraud.
• A 2009 analysis examined 12 states and found that fraud by voters was “very rare,” and also concluded that many of the cases that garnered media attention were ultimately unsubstantiated upon further review.
• Additional research on noncitizen voting can be found here: http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/analysis-noncitizen-voting-vanishingly-rare.
• Additional resources can be found here: https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/analysis-and-reports.

Courts Agree: Fraud by Voters at the Polls is Nearly Non-Existent

• The Fifth Circuit, in an opinion finding that Texas’s strict photo ID law is racially discriminatory, noted that there were “only two convictions for in-person voter impersonation fraud out of 20 million votes cast in the decade” before Texas passed its law.
• In its opinion striking down North Carolina’s omnibus restrictive election law —which included a voter ID requirement — as purposefully racially discriminatory, the Fourth Circuit noted that the state “failed to identify even a single individual who has ever been charged with committing in-person voter fraud in North Carolina.”
• A federal trial court in Wisconsin reviewing that state’s strict photo ID law found “that impersonation fraud — the type of fraud that voter ID is designed to prevent — is extremely rare” and “a truly isolated phenomenon that has not posed a significant threat to the integrity of Wisconsin’s elections.”
• Even the Supreme Court, in its opinion in Crawford upholding Indiana’s voter ID law, noted that the record in the case “contains no evidence of any [in-person voter impersonation] fraud actually occurring in Indiana at any time in its history.” Two of the jurists who weighed in on that case at the time — Republican-appointed former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens and conservative appellate court Judge Richard Posner — have since announced they regret their votes in favor of the law, with Judge Posner noting that strict photo ID laws are “now widely regarded as a means of voter suppression rather than of fraud prevention.”

Government Investigations Agree: Voter Fraud Is Rare

• Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a longtime proponent of voter suppression efforts, argued before state lawmakers that his office needed special power to prosecute voter fraud, because he knew of 100 such cases in his state. After being granted these powers, he has brought six such cases, of which only four have been successful. The secretary has also testified about his review of 84 million votes cast in 22 states, which yielded 14 instances of fraud referred for prosecution, which amounts to a 0.00000017 percent fraud rate.
• Texas lawmakers purported to pass its strict photo ID law to protect against voter fraud. Yet the chief law enforcement official in the state responsible for such prosecutions knew of only one conviction and one guilty plea that involved in-person voter fraud in all Texas elections from 2002 through 2014.
• A specialized United States Department of Justice unit formed with the goal of finding instances of federal election fraud examined the 2002 and 2004 federal elections, and were able to prove that 0.00000013 percent of ballots cast were fraudulent. There was no evidence that any of these incidents involved in-person impersonation fraud. Over a five year period, they found “no concerted effort to tilt the election.”
• An investigation in Colorado, in which the Secretary of State alleged 100 cases of voter fraud, yielded one conviction.
• In Maine, an investigation into 200 college students revealed no evidence of fraud. Shortly thereafter, an Elections Commission appointed by a Republican secretary of state found “there is little or no history in Maine of voter impersonation or identification fraud.”
• In Florida, a criminal investigation into nine individuals who allegedly committed absentee ballot fraud led to all criminal charges being dismissed against all voters.
• In 2012, Florida Governor Rick Scott initiated an effort to remove non-citizen registrants from the state’s rolls. The state’s list of 182,000 alleged non-citizen registrants quickly dwindled to 198. Even this amended list contained many false positives, such as a WWII veteran born in Brooklyn. In the end, only 85 non-citizen registrants were identified and only one was convicted of fraud, out of a total of 12 million registered voters.
• In Iowa, a multi-year investigation into fraud led to just 27 prosecutions out of 1.6 million ballots cast. In 2014 the state issued a report on the investigation citing only six prosecutions.
• In Wisconsin, a task force charged 20 individuals with election crimes. The majority charged were individuals with prior criminal convictions, who are often caught up by confusing laws regarding restoration of their voting rights.

The verdict is in from every corner that voter fraud is sufficiently rare that it simply could not and does not happen at the rate even approaching that which would be required to “rig” an election. Electoral integrity is key to our democracy, and politicians who genuinely care about protecting our elections should focus not on phantom fraud concerns, but on those abuses that actually threaten election security. Originally Posted by WTF

what you cited is an active an ongoing efforts at covering up voter fraud.

If there is no voter fraud, what they don't explain is why we get reports of dead people voting, people who went to vote were told they voted already (multiple voting under false id) and illegals voting.

food for thought: voter fraud is also identity theft when using other peoples names.

@OP - That problem is not specific to LA. You'll find it in just about every county in the USA. It needs to be fixed, I wish I had a good idea of how to do that. Originally Posted by texmwm

Cite an example of another county in this country where dim-retards aren't in control of the voter registration rolls where a full 1/3 of the listed voters are ineligible to vote ... and where that number of ineligible voters approaches a number anywhere near 1.5 million -- which is more than half the 2.8 million margin of victory for hildebeest in California that ignorant dim-retards keep crowing about.

theres a reason for the cover up. they don't want a repeat of what happened in 1946 which blew up over voter fraud in McMinn County, TN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

Cite an example of another county in this country where dim-retards aren't in control of the voter registration rolls where a full 1/3 of the listed voters are ineligible to vote ... and where that number of ineligible voters approaches a number anywhere near 1.5 million -- which is more than half the 2.8 million margin of victory for hildebeest in California that ignorant dim-retards keep crowing about. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...rs-3467777.php

Or who was legal and kicked off.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...olls/99462142/

https://sputniknews.com/us/201610271...ters-rolls-us/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/n...lyn-votes.html

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...rs-3467777.php Originally Posted by bamscram

You're so fucking stupid, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. The challenge was to present a county that wasn't controlled by dim-retards wherein the number of ineligible voters on the rolls approached a number anywhere near 1.5 million. The "3,000" probably "eligible" college students in Waller County, Texas, doesn't nearly equate to Los Angeles County's 1.5 INELIGIBLE voters, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. And Loving County, Maverick County, Brooks County, Kenedy County, Dimmit County, Duval County, and Zavala County ARE in dim-retard country per the 2016 election, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Do you live in Dimmit County, Ekim the Inbred Chimp? It would be very appropriate if you did.

what you cited is an active an ongoing efforts at covering up voter fraud.

If there is no voter fraud, what they don't explain is why we get reports of dead people voting, people who went to vote were told they voted already (multiple voting under false id) and illegals voting.

food for thought: voter fraud is also identity theft when using other peoples names. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Nobody said there is no voter fraud....the trick is not fixing the small amount of voter fraud with a huge amount of voter suppression.

We should do both expand voter participation and get rid of voter fraud


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You're so fucking stupid, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. The challenge was to present a county that wasn't controlled by dim-retards wherein the number of ineligible voters on the rolls approached a number anywhere near 1.5 million. The "3,000" probably "eligible" college students in Waller County, Texas, doesn't nearly equate to Los Angeles County's 1.5 INELIGIBLE voters, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. And Loving County, Maverick County, Brooks County, Kenedy County, Dimmit County, Duval County, and Zavala County ARE in dim-retard country per the 2016 election, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Do you live in Dimmit County, Ekim the Inbred Chimp? It would be very appropriate if you did. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-elec...-3bea26109db4/

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Republ...aliens-to-vote

You are a blubbering idiot ekim the inbred chimp.

Missouri
https://ballotpedia.org/Party_contro...ate_government

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-elec...-3bea26109db4/

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Republ...aliens-to-vote

You are a blubbering idiot ekim the inbred chimp.

Missouri
https://ballotpedia.org/Party_contro...ate_government Originally Posted by bamscram

You can take your "Think Progress" bullshit and shove it up your fuzzy, lubed ass, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. You're still 1.5 million shy of meeting the stated challenge and more than a few brain cells shy of being a sentient creature, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

Back to Cali, don't they register people to vote when they get driver's license and don't they have a law saying you don't have to be an American citizen to get a license? Originally Posted by gnadfly

DL = Voter ID!!!

And you can't see the information either! It's "private"!!!

http://registertovote.ca.gov/

"A U.S. citizen and have never resided in the U.S"!!!

DL = Voter ID!!!

And you can't see the information either! It's "private"!!!

http://registertovote.ca.gov/

"A U.S. citizen and have never resided in the U.S"!!! Originally Posted by LexusLover

Common Sense is not so Common. Martians could be voting too! ... according to you fuckers.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...suppression-is


Ineligible/non-citizens voting
Legal and illegal residents who are not eligible to vote have the least incentive to commit voter fraud. Here is why:
Illegal immigrants: Registering to vote requires a valid social security number. Illegal immigrants generally are unable to obtain one legally, except when they receive amnesty.
However, in that case, they are no longer an illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrants can obtain social security numbers illegally; e.g. so that they can work. In that case, they are unlikely to jeopardize that number by voluntarily providing it to a state government and risk getting caught voting.
Legal immigrants: Legal immigrants generally have a social security number, as they are authorized to reside and work in the U.S.
They can easily register to vote, e.g. when applying for a driver’s license, as states generally don’t verify citizenship of the registrants. However, that does not mean legal immigrants are going to register and turn out to vote, because legal immigrants have the least incentive to commit a stupid crime such as voter fraud.

After residing in the U.S. for a certain period of time, they are eligible to apply for U.S. citizenship; in which case they have to undergo serious background investigations. Legal immigrants are very unlikely to jeopardize such prospects “just” to cast a ballot.

You can take your "Think Progress" bullshit and shove it up your fuzzy, lubed ass, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. You're still 1.5 million shy of meeting the stated challenge and more than a few brain cells shy of being a sentient creature, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You can take your fake news and stick it up your chimp ass ekim.
You have denied all in favor of fake shit just like you are fake..
Just another crying winner. Like your crying president.

You can take your fake news and stick it up your chimp ass ekim.
You have denied all in favor of fake shit just like you are fake..
Just another crying winner. Like your crying president. Originally Posted by bamscram

You're the dipshit that volunteered to make an ass out of yourself, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. You're the jackass that imagines that Waller County's "3,000" eligible college students is synonymous and numerically equal to Los Angeles County's 1.5 million "INELIGIBLE" voters, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. You're also the same dipshit, jackass that thinks Southeast Texas along the Rio Grande doesn't vote predominantly dim-retard, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Keep sucking, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. That's what you do.