Sex: Is it Necessary?

Damn...and that's coming from a MAN! Originally Posted by London Rayne
Yes... I was rather impressed with his rationalization.
burkalini's Avatar
If you won't die without it, it's not a need..as if lol. Granted, it does have many benefits that help with mood, physical stamina and depression, but other things can also replace sex and do the same thing. I know many guys in their 40s who are still virgins, and they are actually not killing themselves.

If I had to choose between giving up sex, or giving up my home or SUV...later sex!Then again, sex is what paid for them, so it would have to be after I quit providing lol.

OK SNL...you can't use that nut to base it on lol. Maslow....cmon now. Funny, I don't recall sex being at the bottom. It was food, water, air and shelter when I was a freshman. Originally Posted by London Rayne
To put sex in a line of basic needs like air and water and food is to say we don't need anyone to survive. Put someone in a cave with all the needs of survival and keep them from companionship and it's been proven that not only will they die alot earlier than normal but their mental health will deteriorate. You just can't put it in a category like that. Will a person die from lack of sex NO. Will a person change from a happy healthy human being to a unhappy one. Yes. Unhappiness is one of the largest killers in the world. Leads to drug addiction, criminal activity like theft and murder and suicide. Sex if we are to be a long living happy human being is necessary as we are hard wired to procreate and even though we know when we have sex we are not producing a child due to protection it still satisfies that basic need in us. No fucking No happiness. No happiness = shorter life. It's not just about getting a nut.
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Sorry, but that's only the way "some" people see it. I am not putting it in "that category." The very definition of a NEED is...that's the point. You can't argue with a clear cut definition of a word. You can however change it up to suit what you want to accomplish though...as has been done here.

People are confusing needs with wants...plain and simple. No one NEEDS sex to live...period! You just admitted that, thus proving my point. It's NOT a NEED! Not every human being is unhappy just because they don't have sex. That is projecting what you might want onto others...not accurate.

We are not talking about people living in a cave either, but those with family, a home, a job, friends, and social outings. Sex is not what is keeping them alive. Many people are more obsessed with climbing the corporate ladder than having sex or raising a family. Are they unhappy and unproductive? I think not.

Saying someone must have sex or another human being to feel complete and happy is suggesting they are codependent, and any shrink will tell you that is extremely unbalanced. If your internal happiness depends on another person you're in trouble, because at any moment that other person could vanish...then what? You are forever seeking your own happiness from outside sources...not healthy or productive.

As I said, I know many people who are not having sex at all yet are living happy and productive lives....if it were a need, they would all be dead or in the nut house. It's in your MIND! People who don't have sex obviously find happiness in OTHER THINGS...wow, imagine that lol. Not everyone needs sex to be happy. If you do, it's no longer a want but an addiction! I also didn't say we did not need "anyone to survive." I said we did not need sex..big difference.
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Sorry, but that's only the way "some" people see it. I am not putting it in "that category." The very definition of a NEED is...that's the point. You can't argue with a clear cut definition of a word. You can however change it up to suit what you want to accomplish though...as has been done here.

People are confusing needs with wants...plain and simple. No one NEEDS sex to live...period! You just admitted that, thus proving my point. It's NOT a NEED! Not every human being is unhappy just because they don't have sex. That is projecting what you might want onto others...not accurate.

We are not talking about people living in a cave either, but those with family, a home, a job, friends, and social outings. Sex is not what is keeping them alive. Many people are more obsessed with climbing the corporate ladder than having sex or raising a family. Are they unhappy and unproductive? I think not.

Saying someone must have sex or another human being to feel complete and happy is suggesting they are codependent, and any shrink will tell you that is extremely unbalanced. If your internal happiness depends on another person you're in trouble, because at any moment that other person could vanish...then what? You are forever seeking your own happiness from outside sources...not healthy or productive.

As I said, I know many people who are not having sex at all yet are living happy and productive lives....if it were a need, they would all be dead or in the nut house. It's in your MIND! People who don't have sex obviously find happiness in OTHER THINGS...wow, imagine that lol. Not everyone needs sex to be happy. If you do, it's no longer a want but an addiction! I also didn't say we did not need "anyone to survive." I said we did not need sex..big difference. Originally Posted by London Rayne

If you put sex in it's clinical description then it is mandatory. That's why all sorts of species die trying to have it. It's called procreation. We can intellectualize it all we want but we just can't get the hardwire out of our DNA. Its why people fight over it all the time. It's why men and women kill over it. It takes the most intellectualy superior species on the planet and reduces them to idiots sometimes. Men have most of their blood flow to their limbs and women have most of their blood flow in their torso. Why? Men are designed to hunt and protect. Women are designed to produce children. Now our brains take over at times and tell us we don't really need to do this. Men no longer hunt because food is available. Women don't have to produce children due to contraception. But we still have sex. All the time. Granted it feels good ( in a perfect world)_. The main reason is we are hardwired to do it. Anytime you disrupt this it has negative effects on your body. The endrocrin system doesn't produce the correct amount of hormones it should . These have cumulative effects on the body. It's called the ying and yang. It's called balance. It's called human nature. No matter how much your brain tells you I don't need it. You do.
There are many reasons WHY we have sex and many of them are very valid. However, it's still not a need.
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Nope..not a need Burk. If you use it saying it's a need for the human race to continue then yes, for reproduction only but that is not what the question is about...it was in the physical aspect, which is idiotic to think anyone must have or they will die.

It is not a need to live a happy, healthy life...period...maybe for you, not for many others. Again, if it is...you need therapy for your weak mind, not sex. Your MIND is what is telling you this. Renew your mind, change your life. That simple. Perception has become your reality.

You are flat out saying that ALL people will be unhappy without sex...that's retarded and you have zero PROOF to back it up. The proof is in the people who are not having sex, yet they are successful, whole, productive, healthy, and not out killing each other. Maybe you and others who sex to rule them would be miserable, but not all people think like that.

They don't let their feelings and emotions dictate what they need or what they will do. They are not dependent on anything out there to keep them happy inside. There are no absolutes with this. I can't say that some people don't need it, because what they believe they need becomes their reality...it still contradicts the definition of a need though.

On the flip side, it is very naive of you to lump the entire human race together as a bunch of weak, emotionally driven, sex starved codependents who can't crack a smile unless they get laid. That's not reality...only on a hooker board.

Your reasoning contradicts the very definition of a need. You can argue with me all you want, but you can't argue with the definition stated in black and white. I can tell you for a FACT that I don't "need" it, and I know many others who don't either. I went 2 years without having sex out of choice and you know what..it was the most peaceful time in my life lol.

You are again, confusing needs with wants. I really can't believe you're saying this as it's what high school boys used to tell girls to get in their pants lol. That they would "die" if they did not get some.
  • Laz
  • 10-09-2011, 03:28 PM
It is not a need to survive but life is more than simply surviving. Human interaction of some nature is needed to make life worth surviving. Sex is definitly an activity that makes living worthwhile but it is not the only activity.

I would clarify in this question whether masturbation is included in the question or is it limited to sex with others. If masturbation is an alternative then that can reduce the need for sex with others and keep it out of the need catagory.
London Rayne's Avatar
There ya have it. Some people should go read the definition of a need..that's all I am saying. No one said anything about "needing sex to be happy." A need is defined relating to survival which is why food, air, and water were included...not happiness. We already agreed that an affectionate touch does help with mood, depression, and overall well being, but that's not the same thing as saying if you don't get laid you're going to effin die lol.
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Girl, don't put words in my mouth!

. . . I have my own mind and I know how to use it, thank you very much!


There..fixed that for ya lol. That urge for young boys is no different than our biological clock ticking when we think we "need" a baby. I always think I "need" sex the week before my period...same when I was pregnant. It was not a need though..it was a very strong desire and a WANT. Originally Posted by London Rayne
London Rayne's Avatar
Well use it to go read the definition lol. Men always say this crap about sex. What's new? If it's such a need riddle me this..how come most of your wives STOPPED DOING IT? Uh..yah. Must not be a need to all of us hah hah.
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Apparently not just men say it London.... lol.

Only we can decide what makes us happy and we can convince ourselves that we need anything. A lot of marriages fail because somebody wants to say that the other isn't fulfilling their needs, such crap.
burkalini's Avatar
Nope..not a need Burk. If you use it saying it's a need for the human race to continue then yes, for reproduction only but that is not what the question is about...it was in the physical aspect, which is idiotic to think anyone must have or they will die.

It is not a need to live a happy, healthy life...period...maybe for you, not for many others. Again, if it is...you need therapy for your weak mind, not sex. Your MIND is what is telling you this. Renew your mind, change your life. That simple. Perception has become your reality.

You are flat out saying that ALL people will be unhappy without sex...that's retarded and you have zero PROOF to back it up. The proof is in the people who are not having sex, yet they are successful, whole, productive, healthy, and not out killing each other. Maybe you and others who sex to rule them would be miserable, but not all people think like that.

They don't let their feelings and emotions dictate what they need or what they will do. They are not dependent on anything out there to keep them happy inside. There are no absolutes with this. I can't say that some people don't need it, because what they believe they need becomes their reality...it still contradicts the definition of a need though.

On the flip side, it is very naive of you to lump the entire human race together as a bunch of weak, emotionally driven, sex starved codependents who can't crack a smile unless they get laid. That's not reality...only on a hooker board.

Your reasoning contradicts the very definition of a need. You can argue with me all you want, but you can't argue with the definition stated in black and white. I can tell you for a FACT that I don't "need" it, and I know many others who don't either. I went 2 years without having sex out of choice and you know what..it was the most peaceful time in my life lol.

You are again, confusing needs with wants. I really can't believe you're saying this as it's what high school boys used to tell girls to get in their pants lol. That they would "die" if they did not get some. Originally Posted by London Rayne

Lol ok shorty. You just keep telling yourself that. You keep trying to erase hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution. I'm sure you can rationionalize your non need for sex. I know the human brain is capable of doing this. If your looking for scientific proof you can see that in multiple surveys people with healthy sex lives live 16.7% longer than obstaining indivuals. If long life is not a need then I guess your right. I think we need to distinguish a little health discussion in here. We won't even talk about the health benefits of regular sex. As human beings we have certain needs to truly be happy and healthy. That is to be a productive bioligical person and a contributor to our perceived society. If we don't have this then we are less happy than we are capable of. I will always say sex is a need in paramount proportions until our bodies are incapable of it and even then our mental state thinks about it constantly.

I miss our discussions like this. We have to do it more often.
Apparently only jaded and scorned bitches do not need sex or the affection that goes along with it. It is "Normal" human nature to desire sex, if you have no desire, then you are not "normal." Go figure. Looks to me like overused, road hard hookers hate sex. Maybe they need the help they so tell us dogs that we need for being normal healthy sexual men.
burkalini's Avatar
I wouldn't go that far
London Rayne's Avatar
He didn't bother looking up the definition either lol. No one said anything about not wanting or desiring sex...we said NEED as in can't live without it! Duh! I could sure use that "affection" completedick so vehemently displayed in his post though lemme tell ya. Yah..sex really does make guys happy alright HAAAAAAAAAAAA! I can tell.

I will also assume he meant "rode hard" vs. "road" lol.