I would like to hear the gun grabbers here (who would have believed that they existed on this board) tell me what laws they would like to have in place that would;
A. Not infringe on our rights and
B. Prevent what happened Friday morning
Except for their isolationist foreign policy views, I am pretty much a Libertarian. Unfortunately, I don't think the Libertarian party can ever be the majority party, because they would end the redistribution of wealth, that the Democrats and Republicans both practice.Hell doesn't exist, it's just a fabrication of religious people to scare you.
The sad truth is, that once you govern outside the Constitution, which we have been doing since FDR, the majority of the people will vote to loot the treasury. I vote Republican as a lesser of two evils choice.
Harry Browne, who ran for president twice on the Libertarian party ticket, once said that when you vote Republican instead of Democrat, you're just voting to go to Hell more slowly. Once the Constitution no longer limits the size and scope of the federal government, our only choice is between the fast lane to Hell or the slow lane. Originally Posted by joe bloe
You're right, Doofie. Why would we want to disarm a population? Just think, had there been just one person in the theater with a concealed carry permit and a firearm, the attack could have ended much sooner, and with much less injury and loss of life.Unfortunately your conclusion that the lack of gun violence in Switzerland is due to how many people own guns is not supported by facts.
I think we should use Switzerland as an example. Very little gun violence there. Why? Because everyone has a gun.
Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Hell doesn't exist, it's just a fabrication of religious people to scare you.It's a metaphor.
If you die, you're dead, that's it. You no longer exist.
Religious people try to scape the world as they see it. Nonsense like you can't fuck until you're married. Bullshit! Originally Posted by waverunner234
I would like to hear the gun grabbers here (who would have believed that they existed on this board) tell me what laws they would like to have in place that would;Very little could have been done to prevent the tragedy in Aurora, just as, IMHO, little could have been done at Ft. Hood, Columbine, or Virginia Tech to prevent those tragedies. It's so easy to say that stricter gun laws might have prevented the tragedy, or less strict gun laws (giving CHLs to younger individuals, for example) might have prevented the tragedy. Either opinion could be 100% correct in a given case, but we can only speculate.
A. Not infringe on our rights and
B. Prevent what happened Friday morning Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
he knows no more that it doesnt exist than that it does Originally Posted by nevergaveitathoughtThis is a complete thread hijack. Having said that, I have no idea if there's an afterlife or not, but I do believe there is a God. Assuming he's perfect, as most religions teach, then I think it follows, there is no Hell. Hell is essentially infinite punishment for finite sin; that can't be justice. If God is perfect, then he must be perfectly just.
This is a complete thread hijack. Having said that, I have no idea if there's an afterlife or not, but I do believe there is a God. Assuming he's perfect, as most religions teach, then I think it follows, there is no Hell. Hell is essentially infinite punishment for finite sin; that can't be justice. If God is perfect, then he must be perfectly just. Originally Posted by joe bloelook up the word justice sometime..it isnt mercy, it is "an equal application of the law"
look up the word justice sometime..it isnt mercy, it is "an equal application of the law" Originally Posted by nevergaveitathoughtThe Bible requires an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. This sets the standard, for proper punishment, that it should be based on the severity of the crime. The punishment should be proportionate to the crime, or sin. We don't give people the death penalty for littering. Eternal punishment (Hell) violates the principal of proportionality, and is consequently, not consistant with the concept of a perfect God.
The Bible requires an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. This sets the standard for proper punishment being based on the severity of the crime. The punishment should be proportionate to the crime, or sin. We don't give people the death penalty for littering. Eternal punishment (Hell) violates the principal of proportionality, and is in my opinion, not consistant with the concept of a perfect God.what does the word equitable mean but equal?...equitable is "equal" but as my name goes...nevermind
This definition of justice (the first one that came up on a Google search, honest!) defines it as having the quality of righeousness and equitableness. It doesn't list "equal application of the law" as primary.
jus·tice
/ˈdʒʌstɪs/ Show Spelled[juhs-tis] Show IPA
noun 1. the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/justice Originally Posted by joe bloe
what does the word equitable mean but equal?...equitable is "equal" but as my name goes...nevermind Originally Posted by nevergaveitathoughtI always thought equitable meant fair. I don't think it's fair to punish anyone for eternity, not even Doove, well ok maybe Doove.
I always thought equitable meant fair. I don't think it's fair to punish anyone for eternity, not even Doove, well ok maybe Doove.legally "impartial" is an equal application of the law...you keep posting defnitions we will run out of words..as one word is defined by another and it begins to get circular...
equitable [ˈɛkwɪtəbəl]
adj 1. impartial or reasonable; fair; just an equitable decision
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/equitable Originally Posted by joe bloe
The Bible also requires stoning disobedient children to death, as well as fornicators. I'm not sure we want to use Biblical standards for punishment. Just sayin'. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyMy only point was regarding the valid concept of proportionality. For better or worse, our culture is Judeo-Christian and our system of justice is grounded in Biblical principals, one of which is that punishment be proportionate to the crime.