Visiting Provider Rates Too High?

I've paid $400 plenty of times for an hour of service with out-of-towners. Mostly because I couldn't schedule a date with locals because I couldn't pass screening. Still it's a lot cheaper than strippers who think their pussy is gold-plated.

KCJoe... I see your a Massage type of guy... after reading your post's...

I myself would not pay 400 for an hour..
I have given a gift to help with rent of 500. that was for all night conversation and we had a good talk ... 10pm to 7am
College girl... while I was living in Topeka...

ok...

One mans trash is another mans treasure
What one man thinks is too high, another may think is cheap

You have the wonderful option to shop around.. showcases to view. You no longer have to use gas and time driving around to corners and hoping that what jumps in your car... 1. isnt LE and 2. isnt sporting extra "equipment you dont desire"

As a traveling lady, let me say this in my defense.

My rates dont change. If I go to Cali, where cost of living is higher... my rate doesnt increase. Just as if i go somewhere where cost of living is lower.. my rates dont change. My rate always stays the same except for an occasional special. I dont upsell. If its on my menu.. its because i enjoy doing it and offer it. Why would I upsell and do something that I really dont like to do anyway? I cant fake like I enjoy something if im truly not enjoying it. And i know its your dollar and not up to me to enjoy something... but im just not mechanical and fake like that. This also allows for not needing to discuss business matters. Rates are posted/Menu is posted. No need to discuss.

How can I keep my rates the same even with travel?

Costs for travel-

I pay for preventive care on my car so that I dont have to pay more after its broke or whatever. Oil changes/ tires rotated, etc. (wise investment/saves money in the end)

Gas- i invested in a travel car that is fuel efficient. Call it a "company car" That way im not forking out high gas on my shelby for touring. Getting a pass for turnpike... saves just maybe a dollar or so.. but those dollars add up.

Hotels- shop around.. deals everywhere! Their goal is to book more rooms than their competitors!! Priceline, hotels.com.... or call direct and get a deal. If u dont like the deal..ask if they have the number for "such n such hotel". Some hotel near them. They hate that.. and u usually get put on hold.. then they come back with a "sudden" special they are having.

Supplies- buy in bulk!
Makeup- unless ur going out to dinner... buy cheap. I use my mac makeup for dinner dates. I wear cheap covergirl when bcd... if youre doing things right, they tend to not notice your makeup and hell... it should be sweated off within 15 minutes anyway, lol

Thats how I can maintain and not up rates.
But i dont lower either-

But.. keep in mind- I STILL have to get gas and gas is not cheap. I STILL have to pay turnpike fees. I STILL have to pay for oil changes/tire rotations.

We have to make sure our children are tended to. I have to pay for a nanny while im gone to keep my children's life on routine. Too feed my pets and tend to household stuff.

I still have to buy covers! KY! Batteries! I also ALWAYS have toothpaste, mouthwash and dixie cups to use. I supply odorless aerosol deodorant for the guys/ odorlessbody wash. I bring my own fluffy towels just incase the room doesnt supply enough (because its more discrete then calling front desk for more towels when i should be the only one there and no excuse for why i need more towels after being there less than a day)

i dont buy cheap razors, rather i pay for waxing and not cheapo waxing. ... I like to maintain my nails. They are not fake acrylic so any sharp edges can lead to accidental scratching that id like to not have to have a client try to explain how a cat clawed them at work..lol I like to keep my skin soft, my body healthy, tasty. I like to keep B12 levels up. I offer greek so I like to maintain that cleanliness.. which also means taking some pro-bonics. All costs money
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I like to role play, fulfill fantasy, pop cherries. This requires outfits, costumes, lingerie, and toys.

I like my incall to not look like just a hotel room. I like to have candles or little things here and there to make it more relaxing and less business-like. I like to stay where its safe for myself as well as the client. (Well lit parking lots or garages at night, no pimps and hookers standing around) I see businessmen.. so i stay where businessmen would not be given a second look. I dress professional when checking in... in business attire. Business attire is more expensive then a tight hooker dress and stillettoes.

I screen and I screen well. So its not just an hour ur paying for. I invest time in screening. I invest in my "ho-phone" so that we can communicate (which is key)

Finally- many may make fun of me.. but... I have had clients with medical issues. I have seriously had a client have an epiletic seizure, fall and bust his head wide open. I have had a client with chest pains.. and i have even had a client with a severe allergic reaction to something that i had eaten and the oils were still on my lips when i kissed him.. Causing his lips and airway to start swelling. So as someone with many many years in medical field.. I even carry a medical bag for emergencies. I was able to stop the seizure guys bleeding from hitting his head. I was able to give aspirin to chest pain guy. And i even had my own epi pen and benedryl for allergy guy. So even a basic first aid kit costs money... but is a wise investment (if u know what ur doing)

Its all about knowing how to manage the costs. For me it doesnt matter if im local or touring... costs are not so different that I have to raise my rates.

And as far as my rates- i invest in making our time worth it to you. I know men work hard for their dollar and there is always that risk of someone cheaper coming along. Knowing this- i always bring my A-game. I always make sure before you walk out that door that our time was enjoyable. I am not one that charges Macy Dept store prices for a Walmart session.



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Hotels- shop around.. deals everywhere! Their goal is to book more rooms than their competitors!! Priceline, hotels.com.... or call direct and get a deal. If u dont like the deal..ask if they have the number for "such n such hotel". Some hotel near them. They hate that.. and u usually get put on hold.. then they come back with a "sudden" special they are having. Originally Posted by LusciousLacy

LL,
I love your dedication and your professionalism. The quality and consistency of service you describe is comparable to a First Class Hotel.

So if a first class hotel (needing to pay for both fixed assets and high variable costs) has unused capacity they will reduce their stated rates of say.. $300 down to say... $120, would one consider them wise businesspeople ?

I hope you wouldn't be any more insulted than the hotel clerk if your hobbyist asked for your competitor's phone number.

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If I book a room at Ritz Carlton and pay their rack rates,
you might consider me a "sucker"...
(there IS one born every minute),
but I would certainly enjoy the quality experience they provide.

But if I could enjoy that experience at a lower cost...
I might even enjoy myself a little More,
with a nice dinner at their restaurant,
couple extra drinks at their bar,
and make sure to tip everyone heavier.

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Women love to shop,
love to find bargains,
especially on top quality merchandise,
and
then love to share their bargain finds with their girl friends...

Part of the Joy of this hobby is in "shopping",
finding that special, fresh, new provider,
receiving top quality service,
especially finding that service at a bargain
and
then sharing their bargain finds with their hobby friends...

Who would begrudge that Joy ? We all need a little Joy !

Sigh.



Pussy is a luxury. Either pay the price or don't but bragging about how cheap you are is classless.

Don't forget that the time of year also plays a factor in what gents are willing to pay. Certain times of the year can be bad for business, and gents are forced to cut a few corners. It just depends on the industry an individual works in. Guys either see fewer ladies, or they see cheaper ladies.

LL,


I hope you wouldn't be any more insulted than the hotel clerk if your hobbyist asked for your competitor's phone number.

! Originally Posted by LoveWomen

I would not be offended. If a gentleman doesnt want to see me because of my rates.. than thats his choice. I have often referred guys to girls with cheaper rates that are as close to what they want as possible. I would rather help him than to deal with haggling. I have often times referred men to other girls who offer things I dont offer.

I really dont look at other girls as competition. We are all different makes and models. All offer different personalities, skills, etc. Plenty of horny men out there. All i can do is focus on myself and what I bring bcd. Focus on bringing my A-game and showing i am worth the rate that I have. When i stop focusing on that... and worrying about the competition.. that is when I run risk of a possible bad review because my focus was not on the gentleman that was right there in front of me.

ok...

One mans trash is another mans treasure
What one man thinks is too high, another may think is cheap

You have the wonderful option to shop around.. showcases to view. You no longer have to use gas and time driving around to corners and hoping that what jumps in your car... 1. isnt LE and 2. isnt sporting extra "equipment you dont desire"

As a traveling lady, let me say this in my defense.

My rates dont change. If I go to Cali, where cost of living is higher... my rate doesnt increase. Just as if i go somewhere where cost of living is lower.. my rates dont change. My rate always stays the same except for an occasional special. I dont upsell. If its on my menu.. its because i enjoy doing it and offer it. Why would I upsell and do something that I really dont like to do anyway? I cant fake like I enjoy something if im truly not enjoying it. And i know its your dollar and not up to me to enjoy something... but im just not mechanical and fake like that. This also allows for not needing to discuss business matters. Rates are posted/Menu is posted. No need to discuss.

How can I keep my rates the same even with travel?

Costs for travel-

I pay for preventive care on my car so that I dont have to pay more after its broke or whatever. Oil changes/ tires rotated, etc. (wise investment/saves money in the end)

Gas- i invested in a travel car that is fuel efficient. Call it a "company car" That way im not forking out high gas on my shelby for touring. Getting a pass for turnpike... saves just maybe a dollar or so.. but those dollars add up.

Hotels- shop around.. deals everywhere! Their goal is to book more rooms than their competitors!! Priceline, hotels.com.... or call direct and get a deal. If u dont like the deal..ask if they have the number for "such n such hotel". Some hotel near them. They hate that.. and u usually get put on hold.. then they come back with a "sudden" special they are having.

Supplies- buy in bulk!
Makeup- unless ur going out to dinner... buy cheap. I use my mac makeup for dinner dates. I wear cheap covergirl when bcd... if youre doing things right, they tend to not notice your makeup and hell... it should be sweated off within 15 minutes anyway, lol

Thats how I can maintain and not up rates.
But i dont lower either-

But.. keep in mind- I STILL have to get gas and gas is not cheap. I STILL have to pay turnpike fees. I STILL have to pay for oil changes/tire rotations.

We have to make sure our children are tended to. I have to pay for a nanny while im gone to keep my children's life on routine. Too feed my pets and tend to household stuff.

I still have to buy covers! KY! Batteries! I also ALWAYS have toothpaste, mouthwash and dixie cups to use. I supply odorless aerosol deodorant for the guys/ odorlessbody wash. I bring my own fluffy towels just incase the room doesnt supply enough (because its more discrete then calling front desk for more towels when i should be the only one there and no excuse for why i need more towels after being there less than a day)

i dont buy cheap razors, rather i pay for waxing and not cheapo waxing. ... I like to maintain my nails. They are not fake acrylic so any sharp edges can lead to accidental scratching that id like to not have to have a client try to explain how a cat clawed them at work..lol I like to keep my skin soft, my body healthy, tasty. I like to keep B12 levels up. I offer greek so I like to maintain that cleanliness.. which also means taking some pro-bonics. All costs money
-
I like to role play, fulfill fantasy, pop cherries. This requires outfits, costumes, lingerie, and toys.

I like my incall to not look like just a hotel room. I like to have candles or little things here and there to make it more relaxing and less business-like. I like to stay where its safe for myself as well as the client. (Well lit parking lots or garages at night, no pimps and hookers standing around) I see businessmen.. so i stay where businessmen would not be given a second look. I dress professional when checking in... in business attire. Business attire is more expensive then a tight hooker dress and stillettoes.

I screen and I screen well. So its not just an hour ur paying for. I invest time in screening. I invest in my "ho-phone" so that we can communicate (which is key)

Finally- many may make fun of me.. but... I have had clients with medical issues. I have seriously had a client have an epiletic seizure, fall and bust his head wide open. I have had a client with chest pains.. and i have even had a client with a severe allergic reaction to something that i had eaten and the oils were still on my lips when i kissed him.. Causing his lips and airway to start swelling. So as someone with many many years in medical field.. I even carry a medical bag for emergencies. I was able to stop the seizure guys bleeding from hitting his head. I was able to give aspirin to chest pain guy. And i even had my own epi pen and benedryl for allergy guy. So even a basic first aid kit costs money... but is a wise investment (if u know what ur doing)

Its all about knowing how to manage the costs. For me it doesnt matter if im local or touring... costs are not so different that I have to raise my rates.

And as far as my rates- i invest in making our time worth it to you. I know men work hard for their dollar and there is always that risk of someone cheaper coming along. Knowing this- i always bring my A-game. I always make sure before you walk out that door that our time was enjoyable. I am not one that charges Macy Dept store prices for a Walmart session.



I Originally Posted by LusciousLacy

Paging Paramedic Lacy I need a pelvic exam!

Sigh.



Pussy is a luxury. Either pay the price or don't but bragging about how cheap you are is classless. Originally Posted by Lovely_Lilianna

I would say what I think of paying 300-400 to an unknown girl but I do not want to be called classless

Long ago my 'ol Grandpa told me, "Never get in a pissin' match with a skunk!"

But I can't help but to take your bait...

bragging about how cheap you are is classless. Originally Posted by Lovely_Lilianna

It is utterly ironic that you, of all people, would be so Judgmental as to call someone else "classless".

Let's please keep our forum cordial, courteous and Non-Judgmental.

Ooooh.


Buuuuurn.

Sigh.



Pussy is a luxury. Either pay the price or don't but bragging about how cheap you are is classless. Originally Posted by Lovely_Lilianna

WOW! thats all i can really say to this comment....name callin, in my opinion, is classless...being nasty towards 'potential' clientele is also very classless. Maybe the rates that are being offered by you are in question...and maybe the ONLY reason you would make such a fuss over this thread??....just sayin
BTW life is a luxury, pussy is an option.

Very nicely put Gemma34....but nothing new with that particular poster

And yes, pussy is a wonderful option....that's why some ladies do a wonderful job of making their mark, here in KC...and we are very fortunate for that.

And other EDIT - removed reference to previous handle have to move out west....and start all over, again.

I guess a mini example of Darwinism at work, lol

So much whooooosh is this thread.