I do not understand how anyone can realistically thing they can make money taking pics of nude women, when there are guys every day buying thousands of dollars on equipment, and paying models, just so they can get them naked. You are on the wrong side of the supply and demand.
That's not the guy that wants to take free pics fault. That's your fault for demanding money for what others will do for free. If you feel you are selling a different product than the other person is giving away, then it's your responsibility to differentiate yourself from the free stuff. Because you are a business.
corporate, businesses photography, music video production, weddings, school pictures, concerts, tv and movie production. those are just a few of the ways a photographer can make money if they are good. If they are trying to take pics of providers and other nude women, that I don't understand why that's so different from the amateur doing the same, it's a preference, because any photographer who really wants to make money knows this is not a very good place to compete.
Originally Posted by dfwninja
There is always someone who is willing to do any job, even your job, for free or at a significantly discounted rate. There is money in photographing nude women. Lot's of photographers do it. But when that same photographer is now chasing the corporate clients or weddings or whatever the case may be at a much cheaper rate he does the rest of the industry a disservice by lowering the value of everybody else's work. Would you lower your rate by 50% to compete with a new marketing person fresh out of school and hungry for work? Probably not. It's different when it affects you directly. Tell your competition to drop their rates and see how you feel about it when you lose business.
I can't tell you how many times a "new" or "cheap" photographer puts a bid in on a job at a much lower rate than the regional standard and gets the job. Usually the client is not satisfied with the work because he doesn't know what he's doing but by that time the money is in his pocket and not yours. All business is business and all revenue is revenue, regardless of what avenues are pursued to get there - whether it's photographing nude women or providers or doing weddings. A customer is a customer and he/she has money to spend.
I said it earlier, amateur photographers with digital cameras drove me and many others out of the wedding business by charging way less and delivering many more images. The problem is that most of the images were poorly composed and/or exposed and they did no post processing work to correct the images, leaving the bride and groom with hundred of useless image and very few actual good ones worthy of "professional" status. But they got paid and others didn't.
The main thing, in the case of providers, is there should at least be a service for service trade, a traditional pay for service option or some other method of payment, not just given away. It's one thing to do a freebie for a friend or family member but it shouldn't be done for the general public.
