Climate change .. the SCAM.

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History of the Ozone Hole
Throughout the 20th century, discoveries and observations trickled in that would allow scientists to understand how human-made chemicals like chlorofluorocarbons create a hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica each spring.
As early as 1912, Antarctic explorers recorded observations of unusual veil-type clouds in the polar stratosphere, although they could not have known at the time how significant those clouds would become. In 1956, the British Antarctic Survey set up the Halley Bay Observatory on Antarctica in preparation for the International Geophysical Year (IGY) of 1957. In that year, ozone measurements using a Dobson Spectrophotometer began.

Instruments on the ground (at Halley) and high above Antarctica (the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer [TOMS] and Ozone Monitoring Instrument [OMI]) measured an acute drop in total atmospheric ozone during October in the early and middle 1980s. (Halley data supplied by J. D. Shanklin, British Antarctic Survey ).
These measurements gave the first clues that there was trouble in the ozone layer. In 1985, a group of scientists (J. C. Farman, B. G. Gardiner, and J. D. Shanklin) published in the journal Nature the first paper on observations of springtime losses of ozone over Antarctica. In 1986, NASA scientists used satellite data from the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer (TOMS) and the Solar Backscatter Ultraviolet (SBUV) instrument to demonstrate that the ozone hole is a regional-scale Antarctic phenomenon.
Between 1986 and 1987, several papers suggested possible mechanisms for the ozone hole, including chemical, dynamical (meteorological), and solar cycle influences. Among the key papers explaining the atmospheric chemistry of CFCs and ozone depletion was one by Susan Solomon and several colleagues. The paper also emphasized the need for polar stratospheric clouds to explain the reaction chemistry. Also in 1986, Michael B. McElroy and colleagues described a role for bromine in ozone-depleting reactions. Paul Crutzen and Frank Arnold proposed that the polar stratospheric clouds could be made of nitric acid trihydrate, which would explain the clouds’ presence at an altitude and temperature that should not have been cold enough for the tiny amount of pure water vapor present in the stratosphere to condense.
Observational evidence of the role of chlorine in ozone loss continued to mount during that same period. For example, the National Ozone Expedition (NOZE) measured elevated levels of the chemical chlorine dioxide (OClO) during the springtime ozone hole from McMurdo Research Station. Then in 1987, the Antarctic Airborne Ozone Expedition flew the ER-2 and DC-8 research aircraft from Punta Arenas, Chile, into the Antarctic Vortex.

Aircraft measurements in the late 1980s confirmed the link between CFCs, chlorine, and ozone loss. Here a NASA ER-2 high-altitude research aircraft lifts off from Kiruna, Sweden on a mission to study Arctic ozone. (NASA Dryden Flight Research Center photo EC00-0037-22)
The aircraft observations produced the “smoking gun” linking CFC-derived chlorine to the ozone hole. The flight data showed a negative correlation between chlorine monoxide (ClO) and ozone: the higher the concentration of ClO, the lower the concentration of ozone. In 1988, the husband and wife team Mario and Luisa Molina described the chemical reactions through which ClO catalyzes the extremely rapid destruction of ozone.
NASA has been monitoring the status of the ozone layer through satellite observations since the 1970s, beginning with the TOMS sensors on the Nimbus satellites. The latest-generation ozone-monitoring technology, the Ozone Monitoring Instrument (OMI), is flying onboard NASA’s Aura satellite.


http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/facts/history_SH.html Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

ManMuncher... Talking shit... about his 0hole... ManMuncher needs to get his head right...

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/...for-the-pause/




*Yes, the Atmospheric “Greenhouse” effect is real. It is responsible for the Earth being about 33⁰C (60⁰F) warmer than it would be absent “Greenhouse” gasses in the Atmosphere.

*Yes Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is a key “Greenhouse” gas, second only to Water Vapor (H2O).

*Yes CO2 has increased by about a third during the past century (from 300 to 400 parts per million), mostly due to unprecedented burning of large quantities of coal, oil, and natural gas.

*Yes, temperatures have gone up by about 0.8⁰C (1.5⁰F) over the past century.

*HOWEVER, warming is mostly natural and due to Earth’s recovery from the depths of the last ice age, some 18,000 years ago.

*No matter what we do, the Earth will warm for hundreds or thousands of years, then plunge into the next ice age. Of course this will not happen monotonically. There will be multi-decade periods of warming and of cooling, just as the Medieval Warm Period (1000-1200s) was considerably warmer than today, and the Little Ice Age (1600-1700s) was colder.

*IPCC climate theory and computer models have failed to match actual satellite temperature data. Alarming predictions have not come to pass. They totally missed the statistical warming “Pause” of the early 2000s. [The IPCC is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change]

*[See the lower right section of the figure] For several periods, even the lowest edge of the Yellow error band is warmer than the highest edge of the Blue band! [These error bands are 5%-95% statistical confidence limits, which means there is less than 1 chance in 20 any point outside a band is due to random error. Thus, there is less than 1 chance in 20 x 20 = 400 that any point in the White space between the Yellow and Blue bands is due to random error. Either the NASA satellite sensor systems are badly out of order or the IPCC climate models are terribly wrong!]

*The gross failure of the IPCC models to correctly predict warming, despite a significant increase in CO2, proves that the models, and the underlying IPCC climate theories, are wrong.

*The most generous explanation is that the IPCC climate scientists simply over-estimated the sensitivity of climate to CO2 increase by a factor of two to three.

*The most likely explanation is that their climate theory is either incomplete or totally wrong, so their models failed. Either that, or, for political purposes, they purposely jiggered the model parameters to create alarming projections and keep research funding coming from we taxpayers to their organizations.
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History of the Ozone Hole
Throughout the 20th century, discoveries and observations trickled in that would allow scientists to understand how human-made chemicals like chlorofluorocarbons create a hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica each spring.
As early as 1912, Antarctic explorers recorded observations of unusual veil-type clouds in the polar stratosphere, although they could not have known at the time how significant those clouds would become. In 1956, the British Antarctic Survey set up the Halley Bay Observatory on Antarctica in preparation for the International Geophysical Year (IGY) of 1957. In that year, ozone measurements using a Dobson Spectrophotometer began.

Instruments on the ground (at Halley) and high above Antarctica (the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer [TOMS] and Ozone Monitoring Instrument [OMI]) measured an acute drop in total atmospheric ozone during October in the early and middle 1980s. (Halley data supplied by J. D. Shanklin, British Antarctic Survey ).
These measurements gave the first clues that there was trouble in the ozone layer. In 1985, a group of scientists (J. C. Farman, B. G. Gardiner, and J. D. Shanklin) published in the journal Nature the first paper on observations of springtime losses of ozone over Antarctica. In 1986, NASA scientists used satellite data from the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer (TOMS) and the Solar Backscatter Ultraviolet (SBUV) instrument to demonstrate that the ozone hole is a regional-scale Antarctic phenomenon.
Between 1986 and 1987, several papers suggested possible mechanisms for the ozone hole, including chemical, dynamical (meteorological), and solar cycle influences. Among the key papers explaining the atmospheric chemistry of CFCs and ozone depletion was one by Susan Solomon and several colleagues. The paper also emphasized the need for polar stratospheric clouds to explain the reaction chemistry. Also in 1986, Michael B. McElroy and colleagues described a role for bromine in ozone-depleting reactions. Paul Crutzen and Frank Arnold proposed that the polar stratospheric clouds could be made of nitric acid trihydrate, which would explain the clouds’ presence at an altitude and temperature that should not have been cold enough for the tiny amount of pure water vapor present in the stratosphere to condense.
Observational evidence of the role of chlorine in ozone loss continued to mount during that same period. For example, the National Ozone Expedition (NOZE) measured elevated levels of the chemical chlorine dioxide (OClO) during the springtime ozone hole from McMurdo Research Station. Then in 1987, the Antarctic Airborne Ozone Expedition flew the ER-2 and DC-8 research aircraft from Punta Arenas, Chile, into the Antarctic Vortex.

Aircraft measurements in the late 1980s confirmed the link between CFCs, chlorine, and ozone loss. Here a NASA ER-2 high-altitude research aircraft lifts off from Kiruna, Sweden on a mission to study Arctic ozone. (NASA Dryden Flight Research Center photo EC00-0037-22)
The aircraft observations produced the “smoking gun” linking CFC-derived chlorine to the ozone hole. The flight data showed a negative correlation between chlorine monoxide (ClO) and ozone: the higher the concentration of ClO, the lower the concentration of ozone. In 1988, the husband and wife team Mario and Luisa Molina described the chemical reactions through which ClO catalyzes the extremely rapid destruction of ozone.
NASA has been monitoring the status of the ozone layer through satellite observations since the 1970s, beginning with the TOMS sensors on the Nimbus satellites. The latest-generation ozone-monitoring technology, the Ozone Monitoring Instrument (OMI), is flying onboard NASA’s Aura satellite.


http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/facts/history_SH.html Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

you quote garbage from gigo sources. GIGO=GarbageInGarbageOut.

anything NASA says is tainted. if you believe it, you are tainted. Idiot.
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ManMuncher... Talking shit... about his 0hole... ManMuncher needs to get his head right...

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/...for-the-pause/


Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
So you and j douche are smarter than NASA? Your article didn't refute a single thng in the article I posted douche-bag. Who was your article by? Where does their research come from? Moot point. CFCs are the origin of the chemical that depletes ozone. CO2 does something different
I think NASA is a credible source. You citing a source is a strike against them.
Thanks for helping me get my head right.
So you and j douche are smarter than NASA? Your article didn't refute a single thng in the article I posted douche-bag. Who was your article by? Where does their research come from? Moot point. CFCs are the origin of the chemical that depletes ozone. CO2 does something different
I think NASA is a credible source. You citing a source is a strike against them.
Thanks for helping me get my head right.
Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

I think you have been eating too many beans, boy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs




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you quote garbage from gigo sources. GIGO=GarbageInGarbageOut.

anything NASA says is tainted. if you believe it, you are tainted. Idiot. You mean ilke somebody who believes anything trump says? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Nice blanket statement. I don't want to strain your brain so I won't ask you what part is wrong. You just stick with j douche and all his "correct" info. Must be nice to live in the back woods where "cause I say so" means something other than you don't know the answer. Just becaue it works for trump.only because he doesn't have to be correct.
Story about a tsunami that hit Scotland 8,000 years ago and why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EPNZWBk7i8

And how it may have been responsible for a land mass being covered about the size of Germany that almost connected England to mainland Europe called "Doggerland"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

and a huge lake of freshwater that broke loose in North America around the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Agassiz

Again, a lot of conjecture but generally massive environmental events caused when there was little human activity.
you quote garbage from gigo sources. GIGO=GarbageInGarbageOut.

anything NASA says is tainted. if you believe it, you are tainted. Idiot. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
He's a taint ?
I think you have been eating too many beans, boy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs




Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
Those are known as mating calls down at the 'holes for EKIM the Inbred Chimp ! When he gets " a case of the winds " , he asks his hero assup to make him " air tight " ! That way EKIM can reduce the amount of methane he's contributing to the atmosphere.
Those are known as mating calls down at the 'holes for EKIM the Inbred Chimp ! When he gets " a case of the winds " , he asks his hero assup to make him " air tight " ! That way EKIM can reduce the amount of methane he's contributing to the atmosphere. Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
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Nice blanket statement. I don't want to strain your brain so I won't ask you what part is wrong. You just stick with j douche and all his "correct" info. Must be nice to live in the back woods where "cause I say so" means something other than you don't know the answer. Just becaue it works for trump.only because he doesn't have to be correct. Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
i don't live in the back woods fucktard. i live in Dallas. in a rather upscale neighborhood. out of your league i would expect ..

or do you actually think i live in Waco? ahahaha

this is a thread about climate change. go post your political views somewhere else.

oh wait this is the Political Forum ahahah

can you stay on topic? or is that too much to ask? munchface?

NASA know who butters its bread boy. the Government, the same Government yelling "Climate Change .. Climate Change!!"



got it now?
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen

you are an internet thief and an old turd. not a good combo. you stole that from IFFY and you know it. let's go right the the news at 6 pm shall we?



someone re-post this so kanass chimp boy can see it ahahaha

oh, i forget, the whole forum has him on ignore. ahahahaha
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i don't live in the back woods fucktard. i live in Dallas. in a rather upscale neighborhood. out of your league i would expect ..

or do you actually think i live in Waco? ahahaha

this is a thread about climate change. go post your political views somewhere else.

oh wait this is the Political Forum ahahah

can you stay on topic? or is that too much to ask? munchface?

NASA know who butters its bread boy. the Government, the same Government yelling "Climate Change .. Climate Change!!"



got it now? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
So you inherited money? You couldn't have earned it.

Several things.
Who gives a shit where you're from? I figured the sticks because you can't back up what you say.

What political views did I post in this thread? Like you have any say ass breath.

My post was a reply to a post. In this thread. That makes it on topic.

So what if NASA knows where it's butter comes from. You mean you don't know where yours comes from?
The difference is they publish their info so that greatly reduces the odds they're lying. I don't see many legitimate sources refuting them.
You on the other hand "publish" here and that YMCA website you're always talking about. They publish info that can be independently confirmed.
You rely on the "cause I say so" and the fact you don't read the whole post.

None of that is my problem. Neither is you being mad at me 'cause I was mean to you or you going to the Driskill. Way over priced. For the tourists. Unless you like that great view of a bunch of buildings taller than the one you'll be in or all the drunks you'll be wading though.
I would of suggested the Omni, the Hyatt, the Radisson, or the 4 Seasons.
Those are hotels too.
So you inherited money? You couldn't have earned it.

Several things.
Who gives a shit where you're from? I figured the sticks because you can't back up what you say.

What political views did I post in this thread? Like you have any say ass breath.

My post was a reply to a post. In this thread. That makes it on topic.

So what if NASA knows where it's butter comes from. You mean you don't know where yours comes from?
The difference is they publish their info so that greatly reduces the odds they're lying. I don't see many legitimate sources refuting them.
You on the other hand "publish" here and that YMCA website you're always talking about. They publish info that can be independently confirmed.
You rely on the "cause I say so" and the fact you don't read the whole post.

None of that is my problem. Neither is you being mad at me 'cause I was mean to you or you going to the Driskill. Way over priced. For the tourists. Unless you like that great view of a bunch of buildings taller than the one you'll be in or all the drunks you'll be wading though.
I would of suggested the Omni, the Hyatt, the Radisson, or the 4 Seasons.
Those are hotels too. Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
Wacco the welsher is boring, and a waste of time. Why I keep the retard on ignore.
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So you inherited money? You couldn't have earned it.

Several things.
Who gives a shit where you're from? I figured the sticks because you can't back up what you say.

What political views did I post in this thread? Like you have any say ass breath.

My post was a reply to a post. In this thread. That makes it on topic.

So what if NASA knows where it's butter comes from. You mean you don't know where yours comes from?
The difference is they publish their info so that greatly reduces the odds they're lying. I don't see many legitimate sources refuting them.
You on the other hand "publish" here and that YMCA website you're always talking about. They publish info that can be independently confirmed.
You rely on the "cause I say so" and the fact you don't read the whole post.

None of that is my problem. Neither is you being mad at me 'cause I was mean to you or you going to the Driskill. Way over priced. For the tourists. Unless you like that great view of a bunch of buildings taller than the one you'll be in or all the drunks you'll be wading though.
I would of suggested the Omni, the Hyatt, the Radisson, or the 4 Seasons.
Those are hotels too. Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

your problem is obvious., you have your head up your ass. yeah i inherited money. did you? so sorry your parents were poor. not my problem.

and by the way, i do make a lot of money. on top of what i inherited. which i prudently invested

in 10 years i'm on track to be a millionaire, can you make the same claim?

stick to the topic of this thread. Global climate change is a scam. it's a fraud

they the arrogant punks at the UN admit it. read my very first post in this thread dick for brains

these people are so arrogant, they know they have all the G20 nations backing them, that they can say whatever they want .. even the truth and it doesn't matter. that's how big of a scam it is.