Here’s a solution to your problem... first, ask a democrat.Why should I have to read Volumes 1&2? If they are based on facts and Trump is in fact guilty whats the hold up in impeaching Trump? So I am asking a Democrat, which is you. Answer the question.
Second, read volume ll about trump’s campaign to obstruct from the day he fired Flynn till the day he hired Barr. That lying fat bastard fired Comey, forced Sessions to resign, instructed underlings to get rid of Mueller and requested false documents to cover his fat ass.
Third, if you have the patience attempt to read volume l that deals with co called collusion keeping in mind collusion isn’t a crime. It’s the conspiracy issue being investigated. That’s where you will find the substance. Originally Posted by Jaxson66
Why should I have to read Volumes 1&2? If they are based on facts and Trump is in fact guilty whats the hold up in impeaching Trump? So I am asking a Democrat, which is you. Answer the question. Originally Posted by Levianon17Dude, you helped pay for the Mueller report shouldn’t you get your moneys worth. As one of the 31% of independents who voted for the lesser of two evils I’ll give you my answer....
The impeachment inquiry has already began as far as I’m concerned. The progress is being obstructed by two fat lying bastards.... Originally Posted by Jaxson66So now you're whining that the obstruction investigation is being obstructed?
Dude, you helped pay for the Mueller report shouldn’t you get your moneys worth. As one of the 31% of independents who voted for the lesser of two evils I’ll give you my answer....They can't impeach Trump unless one of those two volumes or both prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump specifically engaged in the act of Treason, Bribery or committed other high crimes and misdemeanors which constitute conduct that seriously harms the public and seriously compromises the presidents ability to continue. Now with that being said go back over those volumes but this time don't skim.
I skimmed Volume l, to many redactions to follow Mueller's trail, but Volume ll is a report on obstruction committed by trump. Mueller has phone calls, personal notes, e mails, text messages and testimony under oath that the events described in the Mueller report took place. trump went into obstruction mode the day he fired Flynn.
The impeachment inquiry has already began as far as I’m concerned. The progress is being obstructed by two fat lying bastards who seem to be under the impression they don’t have to follow the law because they are the law. That’s Banana Republic bullshit. Originally Posted by Jaxson66
They can't impeach Trump unless one of those two volumes or both prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump specifically engaged in the act of Treason, Bribery or committed other high crimes and misdemeanors which constitute conduct that seriously harms the public and seriously compromises the presidents ability to continue. Now with that being said go back over those volumes but this time don't skim. Originally Posted by Levianon17You and your supporters need to come to a consensus about what, why, and where a present president can be impeached. You blah, blah about the only way trump can be impeached and others claiming it’s all political and a president can be impeached anytime for anything.
L - I woulod disagree about grounds for Impeachment - Impeachment is a political act - the DPST House can vote to Impeach becauseTrump breathes - and members like Tlaib have been screaming so even before being seated.I think they were waiving the subpoenas for underlying evidence. I doubt there’s anyone in Congress who isn’t aware of the Pelosi slow walk. She’s waiting for pro impeachment polls to rise this Summer and l predict they will.
Senate conviction also is a political act - but far more likely to hold to standards of "High crimes and misdemeanors"..
J66- "The impeachment inquiry has already began as far as I’m concerned. The progress is being obstructed by two fat lying bastards who seem to be under the impression they don’t have to follow the law because they are the law."
Must refer to Schiff and Nadler - whose McCarthyite tactics of waving "evidence" in hand ( but not proceeding) are beginning to taint themselves as Liars even to the Pelosi -led DPST leadership - much less the Voters. Originally Posted by oeb11
I think they were waiving the subpoenas for underlying evidence. I doubt there’s anyone in Congress who isn’t aware of the Pelosi slow walk. She’s waiting for pro impeachment polls to rise this Summer and l predict they will. Originally Posted by Jaxson66I predict that Barr, Horowitz and Durham will disappoint you more than Mueller did.
I think they were waiving the subpoenas for underlying evidence. I doubt there’s anyone in Congress who isn’t aware of the Pelosi slow walk. She’s waiting for pro impeachment polls to rise this Summer and l predict they will. Originally Posted by Jaxson66
The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.—Article I, Section 2, Clause 5
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.—Article I, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7
[The President} … shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.—Article II, Section 2
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.—Article II, Section 4Your "Consensus" is outlined in the law of the Land.