Selling murdered baby parts for profit and other connected things

By all means. Let's abort the babies because they might grow up unhappy and act out. Yeah! That's the ticket!

By all means. Let's abort the babies because they might grow up unhappy and act out. Yeah! That's the ticket! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Lets not make their parents responsible for their birth and upbringing ! Oh NO ! Personal responsibility ? !!! Pshaw !! After all ,Shrillary says " It takes a Village" !! And she's NEVER wrong ! Just ask the resident village idiots woomby, assup and Lil cotex !

Ok, so now you're linking studies of actual single mothers raising live kids to what MIGHT occur if fetuses weren't aborted? You should have said that in the first place. What if all those aborted children were instead adopted and raised in stable 2-parent families? And what about the ones who would have beaten the odds in single-mother homes? Do they deserve to be snuffed out because WTF thinks the statistics don't look good?

. Originally Posted by lustylad

You asked for statistics. ..now you bring up the exceptions.

Look i do not think it a bad idea to grant a woman the right to abort a kid she does not want. Period.

Regardless of that....i think for all you fuckers crying about the money...i brought you statistics that you asked for....showing that PPH is a much cheaper option than your Fairy Tooth fable about all the unwanted children being adopted. God Damn do you still believe in Santa?

By all means. Let's abort the babies because they might grow up unhappy and act out. Yeah! That's the ticket! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No we abort fetuses because their mother does not want to carry the unwanted child to birth. That is her option...just as birth control is....it should be more readily available to the poor. We should educate our children better so they understand their options and costs of child rearing.

Grow the fuck up and enough with this dead baby lying drama.

By all means. Let's abort the babies because they might grow up unhappy and act out. Yeah! That's the ticket! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

How about we let the mothers decide? Novel idea, I know. As a 'libertarian' you should be hands off.

Ok, so now you're linking studies of actual single mothers raising live kids to what MIGHT occur if fetuses weren't aborted? You should have said that in the first place. What if all those aborted children were instead adopted and raised in stable 2-parent families? And what about the ones who would have beaten the odds in single-mother homes? Do they deserve to be snuffed out because WTF thinks the statistics don't look good?

. Originally Posted by lustylad

You asked for numbers. What the fuck did you think you would get? They didn't say what you hoped they would, now you're back pedaling. What if? What if? What if your aunt had a dick? Then she'd be your uncle, you goddamn idiot.

You see no problem sacrificing innocent lives when it comes to gun control but suddenly you grow a conscience over this. Bullshit. Do they deserve to die because you don't give a shit about regulating who can get a gun?

How about we let the mothers decide? Novel idea, I know. As a 'libertarian' you should be hands off. Originally Posted by WombRaider

COG is a LINO!

By all means. Let's abort the babies because they might grow up unhappy and act out. Yeah! That's the ticket! Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

+1

Leonardo Da Vinci was a bastard son born out of wedlock.

Leonardo Da Vinci was a bastard son born out of wedlock. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

But, but, but.... statistics prove Leo should have spent a life in prison. How did he ever realize his prodigious talents without food stamps and public housing and handouts?

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The fact of the matter is that it is way cheaper to help women out with birth control and unwanted pregnancy's than it is to keep an unwanted child out of jail.

Jail, something you do not seem to mind spending money on.

So let's review the facts....you want women to have unwanted children , you do not want to pay for the proper care to keep that child from a life of crime but you have no problem paying for the imprisonment of that child once he does what statistics say he will do... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Originally Posted by WTF

The facts are you don't seem to mind killing kids who aren't born yet, then if they are born let the bastard fathers off the hook when they do not help the mother raise the kids?

Which "myth" are you talking about? Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

JDIdiot, perhaps he's "talking about" the camouflaged 777 parked on a remote island "myth."

Idiot!

How about we let the mothers decide? Novel idea, I know. As a 'libertarian' you should be hands off. Originally Posted by WombRaider

I believe that has been my consistent position from the start. You are making it sound like abortion is necessary for societal control. That's bullshit. I'd love for there to be no need for abortion. The idea that abortion is good for society is ridiculous.


I fully support a woman's right to choose. I hope she would choose life, but it's not my decision. Each abortion is a tragedy. It's a tragedy for the child, the mother, the father (sometimes), the family, and the community. Abortion is never a good decision. It may be the best of all the bad choices facing the mother, and she should have right to so choose, but it is not a good thing. Having the right to make that choice is a good thing. Having to make the decision is not. No woman looks forward to making that choice.


Quit treating it like a political sideshow and trying to find reasons to make abortion sound noble. That's the stupidity I was mocking. Not the woman's right to choose. I was mocking a bunch of men treating it like a benefit.

I believe that has been my consistent position from the start. You are making it sound like abortion is necessary for societal control. That's bullshit. I'd love for there to be no need for abortion. The idea that abortion is good for society is ridiculous.


I fully support a woman's right to choose. I hope she would choose life, but it's not my decision. Each abortion is a tragedy. It's a tragedy for the child, the mother, the father (sometimes), the family, and the community. Abortion is never a good decision. It may be the best of all the bad choices facing the mother, and she should have right to so choose, but it is not a good thing. Having the right to make that choice is a good thing. Having to make the decision is not. No woman looks forward to making that choice.


Quit treating it like a political sideshow and trying to find reasons to make abortion sound noble. That's the stupidity I was mocking. Not the woman's right to choose. I was mocking a bunch of men treating it like a benefit. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

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Yes COG, most will concede that it would be much, much better if a woman only had a child when she chose to.

It would be better if we expanded sex education classes for all young folks so they knew wtf the risks were...

PPH is a off shoot of us not doing that.

I believe that has been my consistent position from the start. You are making it sound like abortion is necessary for societal control. That's bullshit. I'd love for there to be no need for abortion. The idea that abortion is good for society is ridiculous.


I fully support a woman's right to choose. I hope she would choose life, but it's not my decision. Each abortion is a tragedy. It's a tragedy for the child, the mother, the father (sometimes), the family, and the community. Abortion is never a good decision. It may be the best of all the bad choices facing the mother, and she should have right to so choose, but it is not a good thing. Having the right to make that choice is a good thing. Having to make the decision is not. No woman looks forward to making that choice.


Quit treating it like a political sideshow and trying to find reasons to make abortion sound noble. That's the stupidity I was mocking. Not the woman's right to choose. I was mocking a bunch of men treating it like a benefit. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

How about mocking a bunch of men wanting to make the decision for her, and making political hay at the same time.