The Last Words of Big Pimpin

You absolutely can plead the 5th in civil cases. Unlike criminal cases, however, the jury can be made aware of your refusal to testify and are allowed to draw any reasonable inference from that they so choose.

I'm with Booth, I think Mrs. Pimpin was there ( involved). This might have been part of some proceedings, wife demanded he do this or else, maybe ' or else' is already in motion and this was part of a ' deal.' This thread is not a result of BP waking up one morning, having coffee with the Lord Jesus Christ and registering this handle and posting in this manner.

What we have is a 3 page and growing thread over a single post that has several providers angry and hobbyists feeling like Joel Osteen has kidnapped all of us and taken us to the Lakewood Church for religious rehabilitation. But I don't feel that way, TGFBI would never 100% on his own post this, this thread is a bunch of replies pretty much to the wife, who I feel coerced BP to post this, maybe dictated it herself as he typed. None of us, members nor even staff live in the BP house, the only entity who knows who really posted that crap and how many chairs were in front of that monitor are the poster(s) and God, yes God himself ( maybe herself to be politically correct). I still remember the tee shirt my sister had as a kid that read ' When God created Man she was only joking'

All these replies and ' emotions' are directed not at BP but at a coerced BP or joint Mr.and Mrs. BP; so please folks, relax. I don't take the post seriously. I think BP had to post this, against his will as part of some deal. Originally Posted by KosherCowboy

Kosher,

My epicurian friend, I find myself agreeing with you once again.

The part I put in bold cracked me up, I hate Joel Osteen.

Here is my take. I think TGFBI had to go to marriage counselling. I think wifey said "counselling now, or divorce!" And what we are seeing is TGFBI going through some version of the 12 steps. (Probably seeing a "Christian Counselor" and not a psychiatrist)

Here are the 12 steps, and I think we will recognize several of these in the OP.

1. "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol (substitute your own word or phrase here), that our lives had become unmanageable." Anything in our lives can become unmanageable, from our anger to how we handle stress. So consider what you need help with and replace the word alcohol with your own.



2. "We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity." The idea here is that we cannot make manageable whatever is out of control. Once you accept that something is unmanageable by you alone, working this step becomes easier.



3. "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understood Him." No need to see this as a traditional god. You could believe in the earth or Goddesses, whatever works for you. The idea, again, is that you are not in control of the situation and your spirituality must be.


4. "Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves." Look deep in yourself to see what is wrong and go from there.


5. "Admitted to God, (as you understand Him) to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs." Admitting your wrongs is difficult so don't push yourself with this step.


6. "Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character." Again, you are relinquishing your control here.


7. "Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings." Surrendering even more with this step.


8. "Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all." This is important in gaining your life back and removing any guilt you may have.


9 "Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others." Directly speaking with people when you can also helps overcome your bad feelings about what you have done wrong.


10. "Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it." Having the courage to look at yourself closely and realize your faults is an important part of being humble and working the steps.


11. "Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out." Praying to your Higher Power helps alleviate stress of believing you are in control of the universe and can fix anything and everything.

12. "Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to others, and to practice these principles in all our affairs." Once you feel you have completed these steps for whatever problem is bothering you in life, carry the power of what you learned, into the world and be amazed at how other people gain the courage to change their lives too.

Whether this is or isn't BP, I don't know. I am leaning towards Kosher's thougts that it is actually "them". And this was some kind of theraputic excercise that the counselor, pastor, etc... said they SHOULD do, and Mrs. BP had a lot to do with the wording here. It could be that BP really THINKS he feels this way, or really feels this way. He could be somewhat "brainwashed" or panicked at the thought of losing his family and has turned to this religiosity to find comfort and identity in this time of crisis.

I am hoping that in the "making ammends" step he has not forgotten the women on this site with whom he shared time. I hope that if he comes back around to this step he remembers that making ammends is to ALL he has hurt not just his wife and kids. I am hoping, like I said before, that this is an exercise and somewhat orchestrated. I would hope TGFBI didn't really feel that way about all the women here.
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To TGFBI,

I hope you are still reading this. I am sorry that things have come to this for you, and I am sorry you are going through this hell. I hope you find peace in all of this and closure soon. I think you still have a long road ahead, and things may never be "right" again at home. I considered you a friend and I enjoyed our conversations. I am not taking anything you said personally.

Take care of yourself,

TxSacker

When I suggested that Mrs. BP was in the house I thought I was pointing out the obvious. It never occurred to me that some of you guys would then precede to write books about it.

It used to really bug me when a moderator would come in with a "There's nothing to see here folks. It's time to move on" post but if ever there was a thread begging to be put out of its misery it's this one.

AMEN and as you all say +1

These are the longest last words I have ever read!

Im sorry i will be the one to say it, but if he had not slipped up, he would still be here, he owes the lovely ladies he saw an apology, they did not deserve to be called ugly and fake, afterall if he had not got caught, he would still be hanging out with these girls telling them how pretty they are.

And the brothers certainly did not need the sermon. That was uncalled for, if they want religion they know where the local church is. This is the hobby! a risky one. Be safe, watch yourself. And stay on your toes if your SO is a ummmm smart.

First of all, let me say that my response comes from my formal education, and experience as a former minister. (Don't ask. It's not important how I got from there to here, or all the crap that happened along the way.)


What was written by BP was probably not sanctioned by a Minister or Christian Counselor. When someone confesses to "living a life of sin", they are told to repent. Repent means to turn away from and leave behind. No minister or counselor would ever suggest going back to the Eccie site, especially this early in the game. The advice would be to NEVER go back under any circumstance. To go back would be to expose oneself to the "temptation" which could weaken the process of repentance and cause one to "fall back into sin". It would be like asking a alcoholic to go to a bar a month or two after entering AA. I remember a case study in college where an individual addicted to porn was told to find an alternative route home from work because the most direct route required him to drive by two adult movie houses. So in my experience, whoever he is counseling with would not be happy he did this.


If this is BP, and I believe it very well could be, I don't believe he would risk posting without the Mrs. knowledge, and to some degree her participation. This explains the trashing of the girls. This would have to be done for the benefit of the Mrs. The trashing of the experience would come out of his counseling. His must admit that the sexual experience was not "all that" for the benefit of his wife as well as his "healing back into a God sanctioned sexual relationship" that is not based on the "carnal desires of the flesh". I also believe this to be an effort to ease his conscience by "saving some of his male friends from the harlots" and in some way turn this into a positive experience where he is now a messenger from God. “See? This experience allows me (BP) to better minister to those who are guilty of the sin of lying with the harlot, because I have been there myself, and I have been REDEEMED!” He can't save the girls because the wife's involvement in this would never allow that. That responsibility would fall on one of the ladies should they be swayed, by his post, to leave the hobby and "repent from their evil lifestyle". Believe me, she is checking the board for anything that might resemble BP so she knows about this.


I personally hope he has made peace with himself and his Creator. I also hope he can work things out with his wife. Belief in God and a Higher Power is one thing. Dependence and total belief in organized religion is dangerous and can lead to disappointment and damage, for it depends more on the forgiveness on mere mortals than God himself. I wish him all the best.

Okay BP....If you are offended by the "Horrors of ECCIE" why did you spend hours on it writing your "War and Peace" novel?

Here's the deal people....Hobbying is a SERVICE provided to gentlemen (and ladies) by Providers....hence the name "Provider".

Hobbying is NOT cheating. Cheating is when you are MADLY IN LOVE with another person while you are in a relationship with someone else. Think of hobbying as getting your oil changed, but a lot nicer.

Men have a MUCH stronger sex drive than women. They NEED a sexual release like they NEED to eat and sleep. Unfortunately most women do not understand this.

As a Provider I am deeply offended by BP's novel. Providers are in this business because we want to be. We enjoy men. We like to make men feel good. We love to be in the company of a man. If we can make a few dollars doing it so be it.
By the way...you are not paying for sex you are paying for confidentiality.

I am college educated and could be making a lot more money and have a great career in "Corporate America" but I CHOOSE to be a Provider because it is what makes me happy. I know many providers with college degrees who do this because they enjoy it.

This has been going on since the beginning of time.

Just my 2 cents worth.

I don't know BP as well as most of you do, but I always enjoyed reading his reviews. I especially liked how he hit up pimps for interfering with his game. What puzzles me is if he actually wrote this because the venacular at the end was similar to BP's style, but it wasn't spelled or written the same way... Also, why would he invite a hobby refugee to PM him for advice if he's walking away? Just my dos centavos...

No doubt! I'm with lisa.lisa0302 if he hadn't been busted this guy would still be here hobbying away like a little boy with his new Lionel train set. I've read some of his reviews and it sounds like he was having the time of his life. Crazy! This whole deal reminds me of someone blaming McDonald's for being overweight and wanting to sue the chain. P.S. Btw the 12 steps do work! Hasta la pasta!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUBnxqEVKlk

Hmmm, link didn't load for me but that's ok. My take on this whole thread/thing/episode is we oughtta just let it die and hope that's the end of it. There's nothing anybody can say here that's gonna make the situation better for either of those folks.

More evidence of the lies rampant in the hobby, none of these 20-30 year old girls really want anything to do with us 40-50-60 year old, mostly overweight guys. They put on fake smiles, grin and bear our grossness, then shower as quickly as they can and run to the bank. That's the truth, wake up and realize it, and stop it! Originally Posted by No one

Howdy, Folks!

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