OK folks, how about an honest discussion here?

Really?

Do you even know what this thread is about, Slobbrin? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Yssup Rider, if you want an actual honest discussion, instead of the usual namefest/flamefest...


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IT STARTS WITH YOU.

You have to start it.

You have to lead by example.

This topic was formed when people asked for a civilized place to hold political discussions, separate from the essentially-unmoderated general idiocy area. Somehow, someone got the idea that what was needed was an essentially-unmoderated political discussion area.

With the change in Moderators, I'd hoped the new Moderator would tighten down some, awarding some points, and maybe a few posting vacations, and getting the attention of some of the more obvious flamers. That does not seem to have happened.