Hurt...

You had no right asking if she was stacking. It was rude and offputting, whether intentional or not. You are thinking/worrying way too much about her profitability, when you should be enjoying fucking a beautiful lady.

You should have just inquired about a longer appt. Something along the lines of "if you have time for a 90min or 2hr, I'd love to see if that's a possibility" then it's on her to say yay or nay.

Mind your own business and quit minding the ladies. All you need to worry over is if gal is clean and the place is clean when you arrive. Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

Thanks LL, appreciate the perspective.

Lol scribe...of course I didn't read all of this...and I I have no idea on how many exchanges you had with the lady or how many words you exchanged. You are a bit wordy and maybe, just maybe, she thought you were a "time waster" and blew you off. Who knows....book it or lose it.

Lol scribe...of course I didn't read all of this...and I I have no idea on how many exchanges you had with the lady or how many words you exchanged. You are a bit wordy and maybe, just maybe, she thought you were a "time waster" and blew you off. Who knows....book it or lose it. Originally Posted by Tsmokies

ROFLMAO - yes, but unintentional time waster... Someone says "Sweeeeeet Caroline" I've got to say "BAH BAH BAH"!

But again, not on purpose. Have had very short text with providers - (but usually, it means I probably won't see them). Again, I'm sapiosexual. I make no claim I'm not.

Wanna met?
Yes
When
9pm
how long?
1 hr

This conversation would never ever happen with me on any provider I would see - interactive discussion (to me - like kissing) is a "value added benefit" that (and I'm saying about ME here... not you - not them - everybody do as you please)... but that if more providers understood, I (personally - SCRIBE) might be more inclined to schedule.

Why do guys think I'm on here posting and reading so much? Do you know, before I see a provider I try to read EVERY review they have? (Maybe that's standard, I don't know - I just know me). I research their threads and postings. If I find things I find distasteful - no matter how hot she is - I probably won't see her. It "ruins the mood" for me. Because of this, with very limited exception - I feel that my "reviews" list - might be the "gold standard" for the best mentally interactive providers here (whom I've met so far... SexyP...lol).

Look - tastes vary. BBW or spinners? Brown or White? Tall or short? Safety first, or loose and liberal? We ALL have our preferences... but I've never seen in Co-Ed (lol... who's the hobbyist who keeps asking for "the bests?...Who's the best this or that? lol)... Well, nobody's every asked for the top 10 lists of who's "the most personable providers" or "who are the girls you'd like to share an afternoon with talking". (It's ok - many her would say "WhoTF cares?")

Well - I care. And maybe some of you out there care as well. I see them for the person they are (and looks are a big factor), but second in my book to the mental stimulation I get through interaction. (many would disagree - that's great. So we're not interested in the same providers. That's perfectly fine.)

I'm no more a timewaster than a provider who asks me to reply with "references" is "wasting my time with another text"... they are rightfully trying to decide "should I see this hobbyist"?... I am rightfully gaining data on "should I see this provider"?

I mean - we all "screen"...BS if you say you don't. If we didn't the ISO thread would be "first reply, first scheduled" and guys would just post an address, a time, an amount and a menu to be filled and (blindfold on) to whomever responds.

(ROFLMAO - on a lighter note; wouldn't THAT be an ISO. "I'm naked on a bed blindfolded at 8pm, here's my address, there will be $100 on the bed next to me - provider roulette - fist half hour reply takes it! Whoooo THAT is ballsy fun! )

ROFLMAO - yes, but unintentional time waster... Someone says "Sweeeeeet Caroline" I've got to say "BAH BAH BAH"!

But again, not on purpose. Have had very short text with providers - (but usually, it means I probably won't see them). Again, I'm sapiosexual. I make no claim I'm not.

Wanna met?
Yes
When
9pm
how long?
1 hr

This conversation would never ever happen with me on any provider I would see - interactive discussion (to me - like kissing) is a "value added benefit" that (and I'm saying about ME here... not you - not them - everybody do as you please)... but that if more providers understood, I (personally - SCRIBE) might be more inclined to schedule.

Why do guys think I'm on here posting and reading so much? Do you know, before I see a provider I try to read EVERY review they have? (Maybe that's standard, I don't know - I just know me). I research their threads and postings. If I find things I find distasteful - no matter how hot she is - I probably won't see her. It "ruins the mood" for me. Because of this, with very limited exception - I feel that my "reviews" list - might be the "gold standard" for the best mentally interactive providers here (whom I've met so far... SexyP...lol).

Look - tastes vary. BBW or spinners? Brown or White? Tall or short? Safety first, or loose and liberal? We ALL have our preferences... but I've never seen in Co-Ed (lol... who's the hobbyist who keeps asking for "the bests?...Who's the best this or that? lol)... Well, nobody's every asked for the top 10 lists of who's "the most personable providers" or "who are the girls you'd like to share an afternoon with talking". (It's ok - many her would say "WhoTF cares?")

Well - I care. And maybe some of you out there care as well. I see them for the person they are (and looks are a big factor), but second in my book to the mental stimulation I get through interaction. (many would disagree - that's great. So we're not interested in the same providers. That's perfectly fine.)

I'm no more a timewaster than a provider who asks me to reply with "references" is "wasting my time with another text"... they are rightfully trying to decide "should I see this hobbyist"?... I am rightfully gaining data on "should I see this provider"?

I mean - we all "screen"...BS if you say you don't. If we didn't the ISO thread would be "first reply, first scheduled" and guys would just post an address, a time, an amount and a menu to be filled and (blindfold on) to whomever responds.

(ROFLMAO - on a lighter note; wouldn't THAT be an ISO. "I'm naked on a bed blindfolded at 8pm, here's my address, there will be $100 on the bed next to me - provider roulette - fist half hour reply takes it! Whoooo THAT is ballsy fun! ) Originally Posted by Scribe

If a provider looks at a guys profile and see a number of reviews posted by him, she shiuld realize he isn't wasting time.

Scribe has a few.

Here I am wking for Scribe......

Lol

If a provider looks at a guys profile and see a number of reviews posted by him, she shiuld realize he isn't wasting time. Originally Posted by grean

This is not a true statement.

Scribe, I think if the provider actually got upset over teasing and playing; it's HER that is too sensitive and maybe too delicate for the hobby. I don't know if she is a new provider or an experienced veteran. As a new provider I got hurt several times because I AM actually very sensitive and I know that about myself. But I liked what I was doing enough to keep on keeping on. And eventually I wasn't so delicate and I could say, "we'll that's just the way he talks, everything else is good. And he probably didn’t even mean it (that way)". And I realized it was MY decision to see him or not. And none of them have been rude, crude or mean in session with me. And now, if I really take exception to a potential client I've been flirting with, I now will TELL him right away, "I don't like that, it was rude and made me feel like crap" that's all this woman had to say. You could have explained what you meant, apologized and made sure she knows you have nothing but respect and admiration for her. It works with me. If it KEEPS happening, it's his true personality and I just decline to talk anymore or to see him. I don't get all pouty and distressed, like a wife would. That's strange behavior for a paid escort, IMO.

And Brookpwa, nice butt!
But for Heaven's sake; the guy had already stayed twice his scheduled time; let the poor man go when he wants to. He may have thought he was complimenting you as a popular provider. And he very well was supposed to meet his wife for dinner, and didn't want to talk about his wife while in an escorts bed. Unless he's stupid,and you're a messy, smelly provider, he knew that no one was coming. You would have to shower and fix up and straighten the bed and all that. You wouldn't see another man RIGHT AFTER a session. I'm sure you're cleaner than that. if you had another client OTW, you obviously would have started getting ready for him. So he was just giving you an excuse he thought would flatter you. You're so good, you have men that want you all day. That's kind of sweet. I put clearly on my profiles, ads and signature that I'm low volume, and prefer only one a day. So no guy will ever be leaving just before you, and I don't watch the clock, because no guy is coming until maybe tomorrow. Some cuddle and pillow talk with me, if we enjoy each other's company. But many have engagements they have to get to, or back to work, pick up the kids, beat traffic or see their SO.
And many think I don't want to hear about their wife and any problems in the relationship. But I do. I'm an amateur therapist, and if they want, I'll give my opinion and advice. A big one is don't treat the wife badly by keeping her waiting while you're in another woman's bed. He was probably embarrassed and didn’t have time to go into all that. And some providers admit they don't want to hear about the wife, it can ruin the GFE fun for both of you. Not all providers, but some. I don't think he was running away from your bed, just running to somewhere that he was late to! And another client and giving you time for yourself was most likely a compliment for you, he may have been trying to be flattering and considerate to you. Many popular, talented young women see several clients a day, but most don't tell a client that. It's HIS session, HIS time and we don't want him imagining us with another guy, so we respect that and make an excuse, which he may have thought you were. On the rare days I have two, I never tell my guys. Except now I guess! I say I'm seeing my sister, ordering in Chinese food and watching a movie, going to Walmart, whatever. This guy had no idea, just sounds like he booked a 30 min for a reason, but couldn't leave your company for an hour! Then he was late for something. Just my opinion. SORRY so long, I really didn't mean to write a book.

This is not a true statement. Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

Sadly.. LauraLynn is correct. Some of the biggest timewasters I've experienced had either tons of reviews or tons of OK's over on P411.

You really have to read each person based on their own merits. Review count, post count, time in the hobby-- all tend to mean very little.

Scribe, I think if the provider actually got upset over teasing and playing; it's HER that is too sensitive and maybe too delicate for the hobby. I don't know if she is a new provider or an experienced veteran. As a new provider I got hurt several times because I AM actually very sensitive and I know that about myself. But I liked what I was doing enough to keep on keeping on. And eventually I wasn't so delicate and I could say, "we'll that's just the way he talks, everything else is good. And he probably didn’t even mean it (that way)". And I realized it was MY decision to see him or not. And none of them have been rude, crude or mean in session with me. And now, if I really take exception to a potential client I've been flirting with, I now will TELL him right away, "I don't like that, it was rude and made me feel like crap" that's all this woman had to say. You could have explained what you meant, apologized and made sure she knows you have nothing but respect and admiration for her. It works with me. If it KEEPS happening, it's his true personality and I just decline to talk anymore or to see him. I don't get all pouty and distressed, like a wife would. That's strange behavior for a paid escort, IMO.

And Brookpwa, nice butt!
But for Heaven's sake; the guy had already stayed twice his scheduled time; let the poor man go when he wants to. He may have thought he was complimenting you as a popular provider. And he very well was supposed to meet his wife for dinner, and didn't want to talk about his wife while in an escorts bed. Unless he's stupid,and you're a messy, smelly provider, he knew that no one was coming. You would have to shower and fix up and straighten the bed and all that. You wouldn't see another man RIGHT AFTER a session. I'm sure you're cleaner than that. if you had another client OTW, you obviously would have started getting ready for him. So he was just giving you an excuse he thought would flatter you. You're so good, you have men that want you all day. That's kind of sweet. I put clearly on my profiles, ads and signature that I'm low volume, and prefer only one a day. So no guy will ever be leaving just before you, and I don't watch the clock, because no guy is coming until maybe tomorrow. Some cuddle and pillow talk with me, if we enjoy each other's company. But many have engagements they have to get to, or back to work, pick up the kids, beat traffic or see their SO.
And many think I don't want to hear about their wife and any problems in the relationship. But I do. I'm an amateur therapist, and if they want, I'll give my opinion and advice. A big one is don't treat the wife badly by keeping her waiting while you're in another woman's bed. He was probably embarrassed and didn’t have time to go into all that. And some providers admit they don't want to hear about the wife, it can ruin the GFE fun for both of you. Not all providers, but some. I don't think he was running away from your bed, just running to somewhere that he was late to! And another client and giving you time for yourself was most likely a compliment for you, he may have been trying to be flattering and considerate to you. Many popular, talented young women see several clients a day, but most don't tell a client that. It's HIS session, HIS time and we don't want him imagining us with another guy, so we respect that and make an excuse, which he may have thought you were. On the rare days I have two, I never tell my guys. Except now I guess! I say I'm seeing my sister, ordering in Chinese food and watching a movie, going to Walmart, whatever. This guy had no idea, just sounds like he booked a 30 min for a reason, but couldn't leave your company for an hour! Then he was late for something. Just my opinion. SORRY so long, I really didn't mean to write a book. Originally Posted by GingerKatt

GK - thanks. For the record, very experienced provider.

I also understand - you can't control how something you say - could somehow offend someone. You can only control you own level of offense at the acts or words of others.

Example:
Ah-choo!
God bless you!
WTF does god have to do with it asshole, I'm an atheist!??!

There is nothing, anyone can write or say - that I could not come up with a possible example of someone, somewhere getting possibly offended. With all the SJW, "trigger words", etc today... it's a way of life we all have to deal with. All a decent person can do is apologize, learn, and change.

However - it only matters here - and only to me, in that I personally offended her. So the reason for the offense - probably isn't as important in the overall, as the fact that "I did"... which, in turn, deeply mattered to me. Yeah - she could have also taken it better, but that wasn't for her to work on - any more than its a victims job to work on being a "better victim". It's the perpetrator who must change

Sadly.. LauraLynn is correct. Some of the biggest timewasters I've experienced had either tons of reviews or tons of OK's over on P411.

You really have to read each person based on their own merits. Review count, post count, time in the hobby-- all tend to mean very little. Originally Posted by GracePreston

Couldn't agree more Grace, same with Providers - most of us who understand these reviews know YMMV is present in every review. Even the best providers, best IOP and best sessions are probably diminished by bad body odor or rude behavior...

...if that Hobbyist then writes a review - how accurate is it?

(But - as before - I'm not a provider, just going on what other providers have expressed to me)

This is not a true statement. Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

LL - I can tell you this... When I say "OK, we're booked" to a Provider... we are booked! I never miss an appointment once confirmed, I'm never late, and I never NCNS - although I've had it done to me (all of these).

IMO, those things are far more "time wasting" than a conversation with someone you've never seen that helps both Provider and Hobbyist deem if an encounter is warranted.

What would you rather have; a guy who talks or texts you for 30 minutes during set-up and then arrives promptly, follows impeccable etiquette, is hygiene grade A+, and creates a fun session that's just as enjoyable for you the Provider as they themself?

- or a few quick touch base on appointment messages - minimum interaction for set-up - that later becomes a NCNS?

Heck - another angle - what would you rather deal with, a guy who's overly concerned with screwing up your schedule, even though that's a little "buttinsky" - but wants to see you, ends up doing that, and everybody wins;

Or a guy who doesn't try to work with you - is very brief, offers a duration and slot, and who you have to say "I can't because I have (something else to do) that interferes", thereby provoking them to see another provider?

In the first case, you still can work out the dynamics, see the guy, get the donation. (win/win).. in the latter, unless you start negotiating time slots with them - (which is kinda what I did wrong here, in reverse) you'll simply miss out - and everybody loses.

From the Hobbyist side - same equation: If a Provider asks a Hobbyist "Instead of 7, are you doing anything at 8?" should a Hobbyist be rightfully upset and think "What the hell business of that Provider what I'm doing at 8 - and how dare she ask me that - I asked her a question about 7!"

If she says playfully "Are your wallet and your dick still free at 8 instead?" - should he be insulted that she insinuated that the only reason Hobbyists was contacting her - is to pay for a sexual encounter? Should we ALL make it clear - that what a Hobbyist does with his money is none of her business... or is it right either way she asks - because it's a discussion about the dynamics of the hobby session and they are in the middle of setting up a slot? And the Hobbyist should take things more in stride.

What I like....

is a gent who will in his very first message say something like the following:

Hi, Joe here. I'd like to see if you are available at 3p Thursday for an hr date. I prefer gfe arrangements. I've met with Palmula Handerson and Rosie Palm recently. Both are here on icky. They both will know me as the 54yo body builder. My number is 555-1234. Please let me know if you need anything else.

Once a guy is screened, we can text a little to flirt and get to know one another. This isn't Plenty Of Fish or any other online dating app. I dont want 30 min back and forth trying to schedule something before you are even screened.

What I like....

is a gent who will in his very first message say something like the following:

Hi, Joe here. I'd like to see if you are available at 3p Thursday for an hr date. I prefer gfe arrangements. I've met with Palmula Handerson and Rosie Palm recently. Both are here on icky. They both will know me as the 54yo body builder. My number is 555-1234. Please let me know if you need anything else.

Once a guy is screened, we can text a little to flirt and get to know one another. This isn't Plenty Of Fish or any other online dating app. I dont want 30 min back and forth trying to schedule something before you are even screened. Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

THANKS LL!
Guys, one of the best - well spoke - helpful comments I've read. LL, I hope you have that in your SHOWCASE, because if you posted that - it's exactly what I would respect and follow. We play here with a lot of innuendos (see me for an hour it's three roses!)... I'm sure there's some dork who's actually shown up with zero cash and three roses - then asked "WTF?"...lol.

Thank you, thank you!
Scribe

(Wow - great... should be a "sticky")

An alternate point is: Are the Hobbyists entitled to "screen"? This is my particular "screening", if you don't pass - that's cool. I just won't see you - that's fair, right?

"From the Hobbyist side - same equation: If a Provider asks a Hobbyist "Instead of 7, are you doing anything at 8?" should a Hobbyist be rightfully upset and think "What the hell business of that Provider what I'm doing at 8 - and how dare she ask me that - I asked her a question about 7!""

Hhhhmm, I've never had a provider say it the way you just said it. I've had them say "I'm not available at 7, how about 8?"

The way you phrased it is still the condescending assumption (your way). The way the ladies ask me is just a respectful question. Zero assumptions about my schedule. Just a reasonable negotiation.

Forgot - to be clear LL, this was after a simple one PM to the provider, where I did exactly what you say you request, gave her three providers, and my number, and said "I'd like to see you are your schedule allows". She initiated the texting (call back after) to me.

This was the "flirty talk" part after screening - the only thing I hadn't done is request a specific time (which was good, as this call-back was about a week plus after my initial PM) Hope that clarifies for this discussion.

Both she and I (in this case) were not having issues with the length of the interaction.

"From the Hobbyist side - same equation: If a Provider asks a Hobbyist "Instead of 7, are you doing anything at 8?" should a Hobbyist be rightfully upset and think "What the hell business of that Provider what I'm doing at 8 - and how dare she ask me that - I asked her a question about 7!""

Hhhhmm, I've never had a provider say it the way you just said it. I've had them say "I'm not available at 7, how about 8?"

The way you phrased it is still the condescending assumption (your way). The way the ladies ask me is just a respectful question. Zero assumptions about my schedule. Just a reasonable negotiation. Originally Posted by micktoz

What you wrote makes zero sense... or you're not being clear on what you quoted. Or you're trying to make a point that irrelevant to the quote you're showing.

My question was: Isn't it as presumptuous by the provider to assume you are free (or question your schedule as a Hobbyist), as it is for you to question theirs?

The way you quote and write; it appears your trying to make a point about me being condescending, on an example I am giving of what a provider could ask. In other words - you trying to say something bad about me - just because you feel you should post something negative - and you're expecting the people here to not be intelligent enough to see that your reference makes no sense.

It's ok if you just don't like me - many don't many do. But, if your posting here and you expect me to continue to include your messages as valid reasons for reply - you need to make sense, ok?

Example everyone - of how something (maybe) not meant to offend, can. I'm offended that you're implying I don't respect your post enough to really read them and try to understand what your saying. I do - that's why I wrote this.