Another thing that doesn’t make sense for a so called “great” coach is he doesn’t have a coaching tree. Zero coaches have gone on to head coach after coaching for him. That’s unheard of for a coach that’s been around this long. Says a lot about what the league thinks of Tomlins acumen privately.Bruce Arians coached for Tomlin for five years and went on to win a Super Bowl as head coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Again, the vetting and hiring of these coaches is completely on Tomlin. Originally Posted by Charley3
Your missing the point completely. Arians and Lebeow were inherited by Tomlin. And Arians went on to head coach AFTER he was fired by either Tomlin or above. Who has Tomlin hired since with any kind of great success, moves thru the ranks and shows the kind of pedigree other teams want as their head coach! The answer is zero! Nobody!I didn't miss the point. You said "Zero coaches have gone on to head coach after coaching for him." It's simply not true. One went on to win a SB. As I already outlined, he hasn't had to hire many coaches. Lebeau, Butler, and Haley all did a good job, but none of them were never gonna move on to be HC, and that's not Tomlin's fault. Not every good coordinator is destined to be a good HC.
One of Tomlins biggest responsibility is hiring and developing coaches. It’s EXTREMELY important. He sucks at it. And when you have a HOF QB in a league designed for QBs, being above .500 isn’t anything to brag about.
The more this team was all Tomlin, the worse it became. That’s obvious. Originally Posted by Charley3
I didn't miss the point. You said "Zero coaches have gone on to head coach after coaching for him." It's simply not true. One went on to win a SB. As I already outlined, he hasn't had to hire many coaches. Lebeau, Butler, and Haley all did a good job, but none of them were never gonna move on to be HC, and that's not Tomlin's fault. Not every good coordinator is destined to be a good HC.Correction: Zero coaches have amounted to anything that Tomlin hired.
Having one of the best winning percentages in football is something to brag about. Especially when you coach in an era of extreme parity due to free agency and the salary cap. Having the longest streak of non losing seasons in NFL history is also something to brag about. So are seven division titles, two AFC championships, and a Lombardi.
As for the HOF QB, most great coaches have great players. Look at the past 30 Super Bowls. Most of the winners had future HOF QB. The ones who didn't had some of the greatest defensive players ever like Mike Singletary, Ray Lewis, or LT.
I'm glad that the Rooneys believe in continuity. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh
Your missing the point completely. Arians and Lebeow were inherited by Tomlin. And Arians went on to head coach AFTER he was fired by either Tomlin or above. Who has Tomlin hired since with any kind of great success, moves thru the ranks and shows the kind of pedigree other teams want as their head coach! The answer is zero! Nobody!totally agree........ tomlin sounds more like a politician than a coach. His greatest success came with arians and labeau who he did not hire...... you have to be very specific in your wording for some guys to get the point. most people would know exactly what you meant
One of Tomlins biggest responsibility is hiring and developing coaches. It’s EXTREMELY important. He sucks at it. And when you have a HOF QB in a league designed for QBs, being above .500 isn’t anything to brag about.
The more this team was all Tomlin, the worse it became. That’s obvious. Originally Posted by Charley3
Specific with your language? LOL He said something that was completely and specifically wrong, and then when shown the truth he moved the goalpost.Are you a their, they’re and there correction guy? I’m getting dumber every time I exchange posts with you. You know the point I was making. Let it go and take a nap. I’m going to now play with crayons.
Chizzy, just like with Devo, why am I not surprised that you don't like him. Some of the Tomlin haters are just spoiled fans with unreasonable expectations. Others, well...
The Steelers were 8-8 with Arians and Lebeau the year before coach Mike took over. You can nit pick all you want, but by any meaningful metric, he's a good coach. Thankfully the guy who matters, Art knows it. Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh