551 MASS SHOOTING DEATHS SINCE CHARLESTON ATTACK

You call it stupidity. I call it common sense. And once again I challenge you to find ANY post I've made in which I've even come close to suggesting that guns should be banned. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Duplicating failed bureaucratic laws does not constitute common sense, speedy. Already posted the answer for you in other threads, speedy. You lie when you deny your previous posts, speedy.

Some day you'll come to the realization, as I did, that debating any issue with IB is a losing battle. I wish he would put me on "Ignore" as LexusLoser did (although he still responds to my posts through a 3rd party. What a pussy.) Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You'd be the pussy hiding under your bed because you're afraid of your neighbor owning a gun, speedy.

they cant have an adult debate, cause they don't have an adult argument to make. Ive said it before, Trump is like the internet bully in 3D. He must be defeated soundly. . . can u imagine one of these internet wannabe bullies as POTUS??? God help us all. Originally Posted by southtown4488

You, suckclown, would first have to be an adult to justify addressing you as an adult.

Duplicating failed bureaucratic laws does not constitute common sense, speedy. Already posted the answer for you in other threads, speedy. You lie when you deny your previous posts, speedy.

You'd be the pussy hiding under your bed because you're afraid of your neighbor owning a gun, speedy.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Idiot. "Duplicating failed bureaucratic laws"??? No idea what point you're trying to make when arguing whether or not to compare the U.S. to Honduras. Idiot.

Please refresh my failing memory. I don't deny any of my posts but I want you to cite one post in which I've stated I want to ban guns. You won't because you can't. Idiot.

Afraid of my neighbor owning a gun? Hardly. I don't worry about law-abiding citizens owning guns or criminals owning guns. The only thing I want is that if law-abiding citizens are going to carry guns out on the streets they know a little bit about how to shoot the damn thing and the laws that govern them. That is not too much to ask in my opinion.

Idiot. "Duplicating failed bureaucratic laws"??? No idea what point you're trying to make when arguing whether or not to compare the U.S. to Honduras. Idiot.

Please refresh my failing memory. I don't deny any of my posts but I want you to cite one post in which I've stated I want to ban guns. You won't because you can't. Idiot.

Afraid of my neighbor owning a gun? Hardly. I don't worry about law-abiding citizens owning guns or criminals owning guns. The only thing I want is that if law-abiding citizens are going to carry guns out on the streets they know a little bit about how to shoot the damn thing and the laws that govern them. That is not too much to ask in my opinion. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Your ilk are ranting for federal laws to mandate "background" checks, speedy, even as there are federal laws mandating background checks on the books, speedy. Furthermore, speedy, your stated pre-requirements that if "such and such" stipulations that you superciliously prescribe are not met by a gun owner; then, that individual, per your beliefs, should be banned from owning a weapon. That's been your position, speedy, and you lie when you try to deny it.

Your ilk are ranting for federal laws to mandate "background" checks, speedy, even as there are federal laws mandating background checks on the books, speedy. Furthermore, speedy, your stated pre-requirements that if "such and such" stipulations that you superciliously prescribe are not met by a gun owner; then, that individual, per your beliefs, should be banned from owning a weapon. That's been your position, speedy, and you lie when you try to deny it. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Looks like that feller speedy might be afflicted with the Slick Willy Clinton " I did NOT..." disease !

Your ilk are ranting for federal laws to mandate "background" checks, speedy, even as there are federal laws mandating background checks on the books, speedy. Furthermore, speedy, your stated pre-requirements that if "such and such" stipulations that you superciliously prescribe are not met by a gun owner; then, that individual, per your beliefs, should be banned from owning a weapon. That's been your position, speedy, and you lie when you try to deny it. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Please cite a post that comes anywhere close to what you are saying I have said. I have never said ANYTHING about background checks.
And probably the closest I've come to saying that a person should be banned from owning a gun is that individuals should be shown to be mentally competent to not abuse the right to gun ownership. Which is why it is doubtful you should be allowed to own a gun.

I keep asking you to cite posts and you continually do not do so and then tell me what I've supposedly said, and you are wrong, plain and simple. And please don't bring up my opinion on Constitutional Carry again. I've already beaten to death your statements on that.

Please cite a post that comes anywhere close to what you are saying I have said. I have never said ANYTHING about background checks.
And probably the closest I've come to saying that a person should be banned from owning a gun is that individuals should be shown to be mentally competent to not abuse the right to gun ownership. Which is why it is doubtful you should be allowed to own a gun.

I keep asking you to cite posts and you continually do not do so and then tell me what I've supposedly said, and you are wrong, plain and simple. And please don't bring up my opinion on Constitutional Carry again. I've already beaten to death your statements on that.
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

IB simply makes up shit to argue against cause he cant debate as an adult. Maybe he has a mental problem, I don't say that in a joking way. . . I honestly think its likely. if so, he should just let us know. . . it would clear things up.

Please cite a post that comes anywhere close to what you are saying I have said. I have never said ANYTHING about background checks.
And probably the closest I've come to saying that a person should be banned from owning a gun is that individuals should be shown to be mentally competent to not abuse the right to gun ownership. Which is why it is doubtful you should be allowed to own a gun.

I keep asking you to cite posts and you continually do not do so and then tell me what I've supposedly said, and you are wrong, plain and simple. And please don't bring up my opinion on Constitutional Carry again. I've already beaten to death your statements on that.
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You're a liar, speedy. You stipulated that unless a gun owner meets your petty little list of prerequisites, then they shouldn't be allowed to possess a gun, speedy -- and that post was cited for your equivocating ass, speedy.

IB simply makes up shit to argue against cause he cant debate as an adult. Maybe he has a mental problem, I don't say that in a joking way. . . I honestly think its likely. if so, he should just let us know. . . it would clear things up. Originally Posted by southtown4488

A sure sign of mental retardation, suckclown, is your idiotic and retarded belief that laws will make the criminals and jihadists as pure and innocent as little lambs.

It’s been a year since Charleston. There have been 551 more mass shooting deaths in America since

http://fusion.net/story/315440/mass-...ce-charleston/ Originally Posted by southtown4488

I read about 15 of the incidents that weren't "infamous."

Most were Democrat killing Democrat.

Lesson from Tommy Sotomayor: Leave the plantation and live. Stay on the plantation and die.

...The only reason the ratio of guns to gun homicides is low is because we have so many guns in the U.S. which throws the statistics out of whack. We have BY FAR more guns per capita than any other country in the world... Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

That's hilarious. Next thing you'll be crying about is the reason the ratio is so low is because we don't have enough gun homicides.

... And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Gawd you're an idiot.

I don't worry about law-abiding citizens owning guns or criminals owning guns.
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

If you are not worried about criminals owning guns then there's really not much reason for reading your posts, much less trying to understand your rationale. And you are calling other people "Idiots?"

The only thing I want is that if law-abiding citizens are going to carry guns out on the streets they know a little bit about how to shoot the damn thing and the laws that govern them. That is not too much to ask in my opinion. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Before the open carry law went into effect in Texas, if one was to have a conceal carry license one would have to pass a written test concerning the gun laws in Texas and pass a shooting proficiency test.

Are you concerned about criminals not knowing the laws and passing a proficiency test? Just asking.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/least-25-...161518404.html

They got this down, now on to a church and a gay bar.

The only reason the ratio of guns to gun homicides is low is because we have so many guns in the U.S. which throws the statistics out of whack. We have BY FAR more guns per capita than any other country in the world.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-...her-countries/

"Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds.


Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States' gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.


The study was published online Feb. 1 in The American Journal of Medicine.
"Overall, our results show that the U.S., which has the most firearms per capita in the world, suffers disproportionately from firearms compared with other high-income countries," said study author Erin Grinshteyn, an assistant professor at the School of Community Health Science at the University of Nevada-Reno. "These results are consistent with the hypothesis that our firearms are killing us rather than protecting us," she said in a journal news release."


If you continue to want to compare the U.S. to countries like Honduras, Jamaica, Panama, Swaziland, Guatemala, and El Salvador and say "Look at the homicide rates in those countries which are much higher than the homicide rate in the U.S.", it will simply show that your ignorance.



However, I do agree with your statement that the mere presence of guns in the U.S. has little correlation to the number of homicides. And I don't think arming MORE people will increase or decrease the number of homicides significantly. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vi..._United_States

really? don't think so speedbump.

11,208 deaths by homicide (3.5 per 100,000)

21,175 by suicide with a firearm

so .. outlaw guns and no one commits suicide? right! idiot. they'll just OD on prescription drugs or {forbidden ones}. or hang themselves. so let's outlaw rope and belts. that's how Robin Williams committed suicide. no belts, no suicide! gotdam you are dumber than a stump boy.

You're a liar, speedy. You stipulated that unless a gun owner meets your petty little list of prerequisites, then they shouldn't be allowed to possess a gun, speedy -- and that post was cited for your equivocating ass, speedy.

. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

As is said before, you are so stupid it sometimes hurts my head to read your posts. I stipulated NOTHING. Once again you make vague references to statements I've supposedly made with absolutely NOTHING concrete to back them up .

That's hilarious. Next thing you'll be crying about is the reason the ratio is so low is because we don't have enough gun homicides.


Gawd you're an idiot. Originally Posted by gnadfly

First, I've never seen the ratio that was presented and it is simply ridiculous when you stop and think about it. It is simply a fabrication of IBanIdiot's fractured mind and shows nothing tangible. The more guns the better the statistic looks. Forget that there's no evidence to support it.

Second, you call me an idiot when you attribute a statement to me which I did not make. It was contained in the article I cited. If you are going to call me an idiot, at least call me an idiot for something I said.

"And, even though the United States' suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation's gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said."

If you are not worried about criminals owning guns then there's really not much reason for reading your posts, much less trying to understand your rationale. And you are calling other people "Idiots?"


Before the open carry law went into effect in Texas, if one was to have a conceal carry license one would have to pass a written test concerning the gun laws in Texas and pass a shooting proficiency test.

Are you concerned about criminals not knowing the laws and passing a proficiency test? Just asking. Originally Posted by gnadfly

If you don't want to read my posts, please put me on "Ignore". I won't be offended. If you are not bright enough to understand my posts, please put me on "Ignore".

I was NOT referring to the CHL requirements currently in affect in the state of Texas. There are states that support Constitutional Carry. Some people in the state of Texas have come out in favor of Constitutional Carry. I am against it. If you are for it, fine. I have absolutely no problem with your opinion. There is nothing I, or anyone else, can do about criminals carrying guns. There is nothing I can do about someone getting behind the steering wheel of a car and driving without a driver's license. But there are some areas where we do have the power to control and one of those areas is doing something to make sure that people who want to carry handguns on the street meet specific requirements. Unlike you, I respect the opinions of others. I may disagree but I accept them. What I've found over the years is that many gun owners simply can't accept opinions of others that differ from their own opinions.