"Dershowitz has stated an expert legal opinion. yours is not. it's clear you want to argue the point for the sake of arguing it seems. well not just that, clearly you despise Trump and want Congress to overstep its authority to suit your purpose .. Get Trump by any means necessary. which is ironic because that would be illegal and criminal exactly as you no doubt think Trump is."
People don't get it at all. Dershowitz has always supported the liberal spectrum on the Supreme Court, but he also supported the United States Constitution. What Democrats and the modern liberals have done since Obama got in the White House is trash the Constitution to destroy individuals and thus the Constitution. They can't win the policy argument, so they go to destroy the individual. The real coup and threat to the United States took place in 2016 with the false Russia Collusion story the Hillery and Democrats invented to destroy the individual as the policies Trump wanted to enact were what the majority of the people wanted. The Democrats view is nothing new in the world, and is why Cuba voted in Castro and Venezuela voted in marxist/socialist policies that destroyed their countries and created mass immigration to the the United States.
- farmstud60
- 01-09-2023, 04:09 AM
- dilbert firestorm
- 01-11-2023, 11:43 PM
Amazing how many constitutional lawyers say the Jan 6 panel ignores the Constitution.https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/d...19/id/1101152/
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/al...9/id/1101120/H
Hope the link comes through right. It is Alan Dershowitz explaining how the panels conclusions ignore the Constitution. Originally Posted by farmstud60
- dilbert firestorm
- 01-11-2023, 11:46 PM
Dershowitz to Newsmax: Left, Right Should Defend Constitution
(Newsmax/"The Chris Salcedo Show")
By Jack Gournell | Monday, 19 December 2022 06:05 PM EST
The Jan. 6 Select House Committee's referral of criminal charges against former President Donald Trump "and others" is a violation of the Constitution that both the left and right should be defending former Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz tells Newsmax.
Dershowitz agreed that the way the panel was set up was partisan, seven Democrats and two anti-Trump Republicans all appointed by Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, but said Monday on "The Chris Salcedo Show", "it's even worse than that."
The referral by a congressional committee vote to the Justice Department on Monday violates multiple provisions of the Constitution, he said.
First, he said, Article 1 gives Congress only the power to legislate, not the power to prosecute or to refer cases to the Justice Department.
Second, there is a specific prohibition against bills of attainder used by the British Parliament to name certain individuals to prosecute.
"There's only one exception to this, and that is the 14th Amendment, which gives Congress the power to enforce the prohibition against anybody holding office who engaged in insurrection of the kind that took place during the Civil War," Dershowitz said. "The action by this congressional committee is in clear violation, both of the letter and spirit of the Constitution.
Not only should the Justice Department ignore the referral, it should rebuke the committee for interfering with the separation of powers in the system of checks and balances, he said.
"Look, I don't like that Donald Trump said that he thought the election being unfair may give people the right to ignore the Constitution. He was wrong," Dershowitz said.
"The Democrats are wrong," he added. "Everybody who wants to violate the Constitution to achieve partisan benefits is wrong, and we civil libertarians, whether you're Republican or a Democrat, left or right should be fighting to preserve the Constitution."
© 2023 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
(Newsmax/"The Chris Salcedo Show")
By Jack Gournell | Monday, 19 December 2022 06:05 PM EST
The Jan. 6 Select House Committee's referral of criminal charges against former President Donald Trump "and others" is a violation of the Constitution that both the left and right should be defending former Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz tells Newsmax.
Dershowitz agreed that the way the panel was set up was partisan, seven Democrats and two anti-Trump Republicans all appointed by Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, but said Monday on "The Chris Salcedo Show", "it's even worse than that."
The referral by a congressional committee vote to the Justice Department on Monday violates multiple provisions of the Constitution, he said.
First, he said, Article 1 gives Congress only the power to legislate, not the power to prosecute or to refer cases to the Justice Department.
Second, there is a specific prohibition against bills of attainder used by the British Parliament to name certain individuals to prosecute.
"There's only one exception to this, and that is the 14th Amendment, which gives Congress the power to enforce the prohibition against anybody holding office who engaged in insurrection of the kind that took place during the Civil War," Dershowitz said. "The action by this congressional committee is in clear violation, both of the letter and spirit of the Constitution.
Not only should the Justice Department ignore the referral, it should rebuke the committee for interfering with the separation of powers in the system of checks and balances, he said.
"Look, I don't like that Donald Trump said that he thought the election being unfair may give people the right to ignore the Constitution. He was wrong," Dershowitz said.
"The Democrats are wrong," he added. "Everybody who wants to violate the Constitution to achieve partisan benefits is wrong, and we civil libertarians, whether you're Republican or a Democrat, left or right should be fighting to preserve the Constitution."
© 2023 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
- Tigbitties38
- 01-27-2023, 10:29 AM
Thanks for admitting Congress's referral was legal and Dershowitz's "expert legal opinion" turned out to be wrong.
See? It wasn't tough to admit you were wrong.
Trump openly called for the Consideration to be ignored. Remember?
See? It wasn't tough to admit you were wrong.
"Congress can only make a referral that has no legal weight at all. this is legal fact."I never said congress can charge trump. I used the term "referral", just like you.
The referral is part of what Dershowitz claimed is unconstitutional. So now you flipped your position. You've even called the referral a "legal fact".
Also correct about the referral.
A referral is all congress made. No one said it had any legal weight to try trump or officially charge him.
there are only two situations where Congress can charge someone for a crime, neither apply to Trump in this case.
No one tried to use either method. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Trump openly called for the Consideration to be ignored. Remember?