For those who need proof of election fraud....

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The first impeachment had NOTHING to do with the claims of Russian collusion in the 2016 election. Get your facts right.

Russian collusion:

"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election with the goals of harming the campaign of Hillary Clinton, boosting the candidacy of Donald Trump, and increasing political and social discord in the United States."

First Trump impeachment:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) first announced the House would pursue an inquiry into Trump on September 24, 2019, following allegations that Trump requested the Ukrainian government investigate former Vice President Joe Biden (D) and his son, Hunter Biden, in exchange for aid.[2]


Hillary Clinton at no time claimed any irregularities in the voting that cost her the election. She did blame Comey and Russia for hurting her chances.

Hillary Clinton emerged from political hibernation Tuesday by declaring herself “part of the resistance” to Donald Trump’s presidency — and spreading blame for why it is not her sitting in the Oval Office.

Making a rare public appearance, Clinton attributed her surprise loss in the 2016 election to interference by Russian hackers and the actions of FBI Director James B. Comey in the campaign’s homestretch.

“If the election had been on October 27, I would be your president,” Clinton told moderator Christiane Amanpour, the CNN anchor, at a Women for Women International event in New York.

Clinton stated broadly that she takes “absolute personal responsibility” for her failure to win the White House. Yet the Democratic nominee declined to fault her strategy or message, nor did she acknowledge her own weaknesses as a campaigner or the struggles by her and her advisers to at first comprehend and then respond to the angry mood of broad swaths of the electorate.


Yes, several members of Congress objected to the vote count in certain states. You do know what happens to those Republicans who oppose Trump in any way. He comes after them and has done so. Raffensperger. Ducey. McConnell. Murkowski. Collins. Better to object today than incur the wrath of Trump. Trump still has his base and can impact election chances of those running.

Regarding the networks, yes there has been the usual talk of possible Russian and Chinese interference in the election but I can't recall any of the networks seriously suggesting voter fraud cost Trump the election. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
Poor Speedo .... rewriting U.S. history with his own.
LexusLover's Avatar
I think someone, will have to provide some actual evidence, of large scale fraud, first. Originally Posted by pfunkdenver
Is that like "large scale" evidence of manmade climate change?

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Is that like "large scale" evidence of manmade climate change? Originally Posted by LexusLover
No. Not at all. Nothing like the mountains of scientific evidence detailing the earth getting warmer on average every year.

No proof or evidence has been presented to the courts with regard to voter fraud. Whereas plenty of proof and evidence has been presented to the world regarding world degradation.

You have to choose on your own whether to believe science, or superstition. Dork.
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No. Not at all. Nothing like the mountains of scientific evidence detailing the earth getting warmer on average every year.

No proof or evidence has been presented to the courts with regard to voter fraud. Whereas plenty of proof and evidence has been presented to the world regarding world degradation.

You have to choose on your own whether to believe science, or superstition. Dork. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
Fake numbers by climatologists who are providing artificial numbers for their funding!
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No. Not at all. Nothing like the mountains of scientific evidence detailing the earth getting warmer on average every year.

No proof or evidence has been presented to the courts with regard to voter fraud. Whereas plenty of proof and evidence has been presented to the world regarding world degradation.

You have to choose on your own whether to believe science, or superstition. Dork. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
You know how the scientific method is supposed to work? Someone makes a claim and does the research. They present their research for everyone to challenge and test. If they did it correctly then other scientists will have the same results and no one can argue with the results. Think about gravity.

You start talking about climate change and you get the following; a narrative going back to the 1970s written by leftist socialists who predicted a coming ice age. They wrote verbal checks that they couldn't cash by predicting glaciers in Chicago by 1995. That didn't happen and it was never going to happen. So, in the 1990s it became global warming (because they must have overshot fixing the problem in the 1980s). Then we had such distinguished scientists like Ted Danson of Cheers saying that we only had until 2000 to save the world. Like Y2K, it never happened. So then we got "climate change". Seems safe enough, ambiguous and undefined, anything could be evidence of climate change. Too hot (drought)...climate change, too cold (climate change), too wet (climate change), no discernable change at all...yep, climate change. There is no widely realized scientific evidence that can be proven empirically. I know, you can yell it all you want but the evidence is not there. Like Speedy says, it has to be a source that he accepts and believes or it doesn't count. Trot out that source and show us the numbers. After all, the ancients have known for thousands of years that the weather changes. Climate changes as well. Any botanist can show you the rings in a tree and tell you what happened within the life of that tree. Hell, if you live long enough and haven't lost your mind like Biden then you can remember when you were a kid. I remember 50 years ago when the temperatures in summer were over 100 degrees several days a year. All the grass along the highways turned yellow from lack of water. I got my merit badge in meteorology because I was keeping my own records. You don't see that weather so much today. Nowadays, they panic when the temperature goes over 100 and you never see the yellow highways anymore. Still, some talking head who owes all of his (or her) funding to some liberal think tank is going to tell me not to believe my own eyes.

We're pretty conceited to think that we can change the weather. People like that were considered to be charlatans when they rolled into town with their cannon, dances, and songs claiming that they could make rain.

So to go back to the election results; most courts have refused to look at the results. Not because they don't have proof but because the petitioning party has no standing. Some judges have looked at the evidence in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Those judges say that there is something there but they are in the minority on the courts. So, I'll say it again; there is more evidence of voter irregularities than there is evidence of a straight election. Some of our own deniers have tacitly admitted that there was problems with the election but they comfort themselves by proclaiming that it wasn't enough to change the outcome of the election. As I also said, if you can't VERIFY the election results how can you know that the election results were correct. You can't.

There is a new tact today, in both the elections and weather the big Tech masters are censoring information that doesn't support what they think it should. Say the wrong word on Youtube and your video gets pulled. Tweet something that challenges the status quo and you're banned. An axis of evil exists between China, Big Tech, and left wing political activists like Soros.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. The proof here is that I am proven right. Originally Posted by Lapdog
As you said:

Speed, Cornhole and his ilk only know how to cry that the election was stolen, but when they are asked to show proof of it, all they can do is try to turn it around on those of us who have no reason to doubt the veracity of the election, and make us show proof that it wasn't. A monumental waste of time.
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Well climate change , in like 1975 the world was going end from no food ?, we all were gonna be frozen by 1980 , underwater by 2000 And oh the world was gonna end midnight on 1999 so weather is not climate
If they were Correct about ANYTHING maybe people would listen
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MAY 3, 2021
PALM BEACH, FL

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America.

The Fraudulent Presidential Election of 2020 will be, from this day forth, known as THE BIG LIE!

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NCSWIC
Lapdog's Avatar
Who cares?
the_real_Barleycorn's Avatar
The Founding Fathers who are probably rolling over in their graves.
Lapdog's Avatar
Shit. They're probably laughing at that bumbling troublemaker down in Florida just like the rest of us.
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Well climate change , in like 1975 the world was going end from no food ?, we all were gonna be frozen by 1980 , underwater by 2000 And oh the world was gonna end midnight on 1999 so weather is not climate
If they were Correct about ANYTHING maybe people would listen Originally Posted by rexdutchman
You forgot about acid rain and the ozone hole.
the_real_Barleycorn's Avatar
Acid rain is on us but the ozone hole was caused by nature. Do the research. Look up the things that destroy ozone and look up the Bastille Day event.
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You wanna bet?

NCSWIC <----- ????


BAHAHAHAHA Originally Posted by bambino

what?