Ya know what? I've been enlightened. . . perhaps, the "sleaze" word has scared the initial dog whistle blower from stepping up and confidently expressing their charges.
Please feel free. . . free. . . free to be so brave.... now, that you have a legion of ignorance behind you!
Please present your case! Originally Posted by MrGiz
Dive... this is no way directed at you... it is just the subject matter that I wanted to comment about.You are very wise, Ms. Lea. Perhaps it is time. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and it was never my intent to hurt the innocent. The fact is I have. This has never been as simple as I naively believed. The firestorm of argument has been distressing yet without anything being accomplished. No one came forward. Why not? Because if just one admits it happened to them it is the same as if they all did. Every provider seen would be suspect. If the community has the knowledge that it happened to just one and that person is not known it could be anyone. How might the community respond? Some would take the course of seeing no one perhaps for some time. Never my intent. I am sorry for that. I cannot fix it, but I can try to do no further harm. It looks like this is one more thread I need to stop posting in.
Yes, hobbyists and providers have said they fear repercussions. What part of that dont I f**king get? None of it. It something has been done that is as bad as it seems to be based on stories told or heard, then you do not need to fear repercussions! Okay... perhaps you do have to fear them... but standing up for what is right reflects the courage to deal with any repercussions.
I trust St C a good bit... as much as anyone can on a hooker board. He has never led me wrong or shown to be someone who would even allow repercussions. Could another Mod do something stupid in a retaliatory way? Sure... but when you are in the right, then you have to stand up and provide what is needed to get action.
The wheels do move slowly. I am currently working with a provider on a situation that she thinks is unfair and it involves a Mod. I do believe that something will come of it, too.
So, all this talk about a current Mods is just that.. talk!
I have stood up to a few people here in the past and never suffered in repercussion because I was right.
So, why continue down this road if a decision or an action is not going to be taken? Someone needs to stand up and do something! n Or, drop it...
Lea Originally Posted by Lea Madisson
To fan away doubt cast, blame the smoke on the wind. Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne
Rules prevent telling all there is about how it began, but some of it is in plain sight under Coed Discussion. A challenge to the mod was issued just a few days before Christmas and that thread has become the most read thread in recent history. Originally Posted by tuckahoeand every subsequent thread I have seen started on the subject was after said thread that wise MrChan started.
You are very wise, Ms. Lea. Perhaps it is time. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and it was never my intent to hurt the innocent. The fact is I have. This has never been as simple as I naively believed. The firestorm of argument has been distressing yet without anything being accomplished. No one came forward. Why not? Because if just one admits it happened to them it is the same as if they all did. Every provider seen would be suspect. If the community has the knowledge that it happened to just one and that person is not known it could be anyone. How might the community respond? Some would take the course of seeing no one perhaps for some time. Never my intent. I am sorry for that. I cannot fix it, but I can try to do no further harm. It looks like this is one more thread I need to stop posting in. Originally Posted by Mr.ChanYet you did accomplish something useful by getting it out in the open, letting people know its not right to force a lady into BBFS or freebie for reviews. At the same time, someone did bait you into starting these threads which lead to a shit storm that was kinda knowledge within the ladies and amongst some of the guys to begin with. If anything its made an impact on guys and ladies thinking about what has or did happen with MrH and ladies he reviewed, especially the ones that he turned out from a SB or FWB deal. Damage is done, even if one lady doesn't come forward.
Yet you did accomplish something useful by getting it out in the open, letting people know its not right to force a lady into BBFS or freebie for reviews. At the same time, someone did bait you into starting these threads which lead to a shit storm that was kinda knowledge within the ladies and amongst some of the guys to begin with. If anything its made an impact on guys and ladies thinking about what has or did happen with MrH and ladies he reviewed, especially the ones that he turned out from a SB or FWB deal. Damage is done, even if one lady doesn't come forward. Originally Posted by shortyLet's change that "force" to "have influence at suggesting it for better reviews". Force just has a nasty ring to it and if not properly explained (confusion runs deep around here it seems) one thinks it amounts to rape which it does not.
Wise , indeed... but unfortunately, not 100% informed! Originally Posted by MrGizGiz your conspiracy theories are running roughshod. The "sleaze" started in the thread listed below, out in open forum. The "sleaze" factor came in when the subject of this thread started pointing and locking the thread for no reason. There has been no conspiracy anywhere else that I am aware of. Had there been a conspiracy I am sure the admins would have stepped and dealt with the issues very quickly.
Wise , indeed... but unfortunately, not 100% informed! Originally Posted by MrGizGiz, you do not like this topic because hearsay charges are being used in a court of public opinion and are upset that no provider comes forth. Then you do the same claiming, while you are out of the loop, apparently know more of the story. Why the innuendo? If you know more of the story, out with it.
Giz your conspiracy theories are running roughshod. The "sleaze" started in the thread listed below, out in open forum. The "sleaze" factor came in when the subject of this thread started pointing and locking the thread for no reason. There has been no conspiracy anywhere else that I am aware of. Had there been a conspiracy I am sure the admins would have stepped and dealt with the issues very quickly.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=625412&highlight=
The sleaze has come out separate from my running joke on taint. Originally Posted by pyramider
Originally Posted by ufriend2912I don't know where you guys are getting the term "conspiracy" from. . . I've never used it.