Bernie says that incarcerated felons should be able to vote.

you lose. Prison gerrymandering is a nothing-burger.


there are 235 MILLION people of voting age.

there are 2.2 MILLION prisoners of all races in local/state/federal prisons.

that's less than 1% sport, including whites. the numbers for only blacks and hispanics it's less than 1 million. that's less than half of 1 percent.

So ... tell me again why this is such a unfair disadvantage to Democrats????

Or better still ... why it's such an advantage to Republicans? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Of course Prison gerrymandering is a nothing burger, but makes for great "faux" outrage.

As you state, the volumes are very small in regards to overall population. Many of the those in the "system" don't have permanent addresses so how do proclaim what their "home" district should be. Many will spend at least one census cycle or more incarcerated so where do you count them?

They either become non-entities or are counted where they "reside", which happens to be the particular prison they are "attached" to.

And regardless of all the bluster about voting rights, the Constitution is clear on the States ability to restrict or remove voting rights based on rebellion or crime. 48 states choose to do so at various levels, 2 seem not to. To pander about it in the Federal election process is just that as I said earlier, pandering.

Of course Prison gerrymandering is a nothing burger, .... Originally Posted by eccielover

So, why bother with giving them the right to vote?

Oh, yea, I forgot. To make sure ALL OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS continue to have the right to vote in U.S. elections, we have to include INCARCERATED FELONS!!!!

First thing you know, they will be heading back home (or their grandchildren) after they turn this country into a bigger shit-hole than the one from which they came!!!!!!!!!! Of course, you have to get rid of Trump and Pence first.

I say, NO....
Incarcerated felons shouldn't vote

In most states, felons cannot vote while they are in prison but can regain their voting rights after they are released (as in Massachusetts and Hawaii), after they complete their parole (as in Colorado and Connecticut), or when they are no longer on parole or probation (as in New Jersey and Texas).Apr 21, 2018 Originally Posted by A1.

Girl please go on with those Granny Panties. At least buy a gym membership and use it. No one here cares about your mandle.
Crazy Bernie Sanders cant help you here and he has no free cake and ice cream for you...

Girl please go on with those Granny Panties. At least buy a gym membership and use it. No one here cares about your mandle.
Crazy Bernie Sanders cant help you here and he has no free cake and ice cream for you... Originally Posted by R.M.

Lol RM. I love you friend. ( Even though we are different politics, I think you're awesome

Lol RM. I love you friend. ( Even though we are different politics, I think you're awesome Originally Posted by themystic

Agreed. Please don't tell me you a Bernie fan?
Enjoy your weekend.

Keep it on Topic...

So, why bother with giving them the right to vote?

Oh, yea, I forgot. To make sure ALL OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS continue to have the right to vote in U.S. elections, we have to include INCARCERATED FELONS!!!!

First thing you know, they will be heading back home (or their grandchildren) after they turn this country into a bigger shit-hole than the one from which they came!!!!!!!!!! Of course, you have to get rid of Trump and Pence first. Originally Posted by LexusLover

When districts with prisons receive enhanced representation, every other district in the state without a prison sees its votes diluted. And this vote dilution is even larger in the districts with the highest incarceration rates. Thus, the communities that bear the most direct costs of crime are therefore the communities that are the biggest victims of prison-based gerrymandering.

https://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/news/author/peter/

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Does this bullshit count for Nursing Homes too?

When districts with prisons receive enhanced representation, every other district in the state without a prison sees its votes diluted. And this vote dilution is even larger in the districts with the highest incarceration rates. Thus, the communities that bear the most direct costs of crime are therefore the communities that are the biggest victims of prison-based gerrymandering.

https://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/news/author/peter/

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

It's funny how little actual thought the Dims have put into much of this discussion.

First this gerrymandering thing is obviously an obsession for some, but not completely solvable. As I stated before many in the "system" don't really have a permanent address, so when they mention home community, what does that even mean. Address on file at arrest even if serving 5, 10 or longer sentences, and they will never return to that address. last permanent address in the previous xx amount of time? The current rule is at least consistent in taking into account where the person is currently sleeping and taking meals. The boarding school comparison in the one article is laughable as it's largely the difference between children and adult convicts.

Second, the crux of the OP of Bernie and other's wanting to allow incarcerated felons the vote is laughable. Incarceration almost by definition is a loss of privileges and rights. Many inmates have not ability to gauge or rate candidates. Does the left really want votes from people who have no ability to inform themselves on the issues? Oh I guess that's really rhetorical as that's exactly the base they want.

When districts with prisons receive enhanced representation, every other district in the state without a prison sees its votes diluted. And this vote dilution is even larger in the districts with the highest incarceration rates. Thus, the communities that bear the most direct costs of crime are therefore the communities that are the biggest victims of prison-based gerrymandering.

https://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/news/author/peter/

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

these posts never go the way you think they will, do they?

these posts never go the way you think they will, do they? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

That dude looks like Raymond Barone, lol.



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I just got around to watching the CNN Kamala Harris town hall last night, which occurred right after the Bernie Sanders town hall where he described his views on the incarcerated voting. Kamala said the same thing, but she was a lot smoother. Her exact words were "the formally incarcerated" should be allowed to vote. Don Lemon, the moderator, asked her if she'd favor allowing murderers, child molesters, and the like who currently are in jail to vote. She said something like that's a discussion we need to have.

For better or worse, what it boils down to is that Democrats believe people in jail are more likely to vote for Democrats and Republicans believe the same. So they both try to sound like they're taking the high road when they're merely supporting positions that are in their political best interests. There are other issues like this, Dreamers and photo ID's for voting for example.

So they both try to sound like they're taking the high road when they're merely supporting positions that are in their political best interests. There are other issues like this, Dreamers and photo ID's for voting for example. Originally Posted by Tiny

And often times its a very small demographic that is being used for political purposes and faux outrage.

I just got around to watching the CNN Kamala Harris town hall last night, which occurred right after the Bernie Sanders town hall where he described his views on the incarcerated voting. Kamala said the same thing, but she was a lot smoother. Her exact words were "the formally incarcerated" should be allowed to vote. Don Lemon, the moderator, asked her if she'd favor allowing murderers, child molesters, and the like who currently are in jail to vote. She said something like that's a discussion we need to have.

For better or worse, what it boils down to is that Democrats believe people in jail are more likely to vote for Democrats and Republicans believe the same. So they both try to sound like they're taking the high road when they're merely supporting positions that are in their political best interests. There are other issues like this, Dreamers and photo ID's for voting for example. Originally Posted by Tiny

Those two idiots need to go tour a State Prison. They are living in a dream world if they think harden criminals are being rehabilitated. Most Felons are in Prison for a obvious reasons and can't function in society. Voting doesn't mean shit to them.

Her exact words were "the formally incarcerated" should be allowed to vote. Originally Posted by Tiny

I didn't see it, but I'd bet she actually said formerly. Not formally.