The Current State of Kansas City. (Rant) 😁

The website alone does not determine the quality of the lady-- but-- if a person is quite risk averse, they are going to stick to the sites with the highest probability of not having a problem. As KC mentioned, for him, that's P411 and he prefers that they have a preference both there AND here.



The issue is... on some of these sites, they are very fly by night-- its quite easy to be Sarah this week and to be Janet the next... posting new pics to get away from a bad reputation. Its a lot harder to do that on sites like this and P411 and even Tryst (takes weeks to get approved there). That doesn't mean there aren't quality ladies on those sites-- it just means your odds of running into a less than pleasant experience are higher. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Thank you Grace for explaining the topic more calmly and clearly then I evidently have. Your presence here is appreciated. You are in fact the type of lady of which I speak, and we need more of to rejoin the discussion here.

^^^ Totally agree. P411 ladies only for me. Any BS/trash is kicked off and they WILL NOT get back on. Too many sites anymore are way too low level and pathetic quality. Originally Posted by Boredinop

Of course you do have to use your artistic license and determine if you are dealing with a scammer or crazy person. In my humble opinion I think some people are just doing too much in terms of sex. I'm very picky. #bodycountmatters #youfuckmenwomenandanimals??he llno

I'm very picky. #bodycountmatters #youfuckmenwomenandanimals??he llno Originally Posted by Thug4lyfefucyawife

Im pretty sure none of us believe that.
We have seen some of the girls you have requested info on and reviewed.
Pretty scary and non verified looking women.
Just sayin

Has anybody looked on tryst lately. You might be better off on the stroll.

I need to introduce you guys to some women that will go above and beyond. No rookies. Attractive. Not thieves.

P411 wants too much personal information. That particular risk is a bit much for me.

P411 wants too much personal information. That particular risk is a bit much for me. Originally Posted by JohnnyGleet

Unless something has drastically changed--- you don't need personal information if you have 2-3 reputable providers on P411 who will vouch for you.

Unless something has drastically changed--- you don't need personal information if you have 2-3 reputable providers on P411 who will vouch for you. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Will you vouch for me Grace 😉

Unless something has drastically changed--- you don't need personal information if you have 2-3 reputable providers on P411 who will vouch for you. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Catch 22 : I need 2-3 reputable providers on P411 to get access so I can find 2-3 reputable providers on P411.

Will you vouch for me Grace 😉 Originally Posted by Thug4lyfefucyawife

In order to vouch for you I'd have to see you...


So by that very factor.


Nope. Not a chance.

Catch 22 : I need 2-3 reputable providers on P411 to get access so I can find 2-3 reputable providers on P411. Originally Posted by JohnnyGleet

Odds are strong that if you see 2-3 local (or traveling) providers that aren't attached to a studio or spa-- you'll have your 2-3. Most indy ladies that travel at all are on P411.. and a good chunk of your locals will be as well.



That's not to disparage the fact that you seem to enjoy the AMPs.. that's just telling you how to find providers that are likely on P411. Pretty much any traveler on Tryst that has been around long enough to have reviews-- is likely on P411. Ask them. Explain you're working on getting the required references for a membership there. I've vouched for several guys over the years. As have many ladies-- heck, we get free points there if we vouch for a guy and he joins.

In order to vouch for you I'd have to see you...


So by that very factor.


Nope. Not a chance. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

I'd be your first and only AA client. 😀

I'd be your first and only AA client. 😀 Originally Posted by Thug4lyfefucyawife

😬 oops now you'll definitely not see me.

Odds are strong that if you see 2-3 local (or traveling) providers that aren't attached to a studio or spa-- you'll have your 2-3. Most indy ladies that travel at all are on P411.. and a good chunk of your locals will be as well.



That's not to disparage the fact that you seem to enjoy the AMPs.. that's just telling you how to find providers that are likely on P411. Pretty much any traveler on Tryst that has been around long enough to have reviews-- is likely on P411. Ask them. Explain you're working on getting the required references for a membership there. I've vouched for several guys over the years. As have many ladies-- heck, we get free points there if we vouch for a guy and he joins. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Generally the ladies want references from the last 6 months. I'm an infrequent flyer. One traveler actually got insulting when I used a well know local for a reference just because she advertises on STG.
P411 did get my $99 though.

Believe it or not I actually go to AMPS mainly for the massages. Other therapeutic options usually need an appointment well in advance along with some, such as Massage Envy, doing a hard sell for some kind of membership.

I'd be your first and only AA client. 😀 Originally Posted by Thug4lyfefucyawife

LMAO-- I see AA clients. Just not you.