Why keep asking?

Randall Creed's Avatar
Persistence when our schedules don’t work it more than ok. Persistence when I have said I have no interest in seeing you is way different. Heck even the one with the provider that won’t respond if he gets another reference that’s great, but trying to act like I don’t remember our correspondence and your going to slip in that’s a negative, lol.

Casey Originally Posted by casey_carlin
Yeah, but...sometimes a woman is so hot that, I HAVE to see her, or I'll die!!

You wouldn't...want me, to die, would you??
Grace Preston's Avatar
Yeah, but...sometimes a woman is so hot that, I HAVE to see her, or I'll die!!

You wouldn't...want me, to die, would you?? Originally Posted by Randall Creed
I think that's a sacrifice she's willing to make
casey_carlin's Avatar
I have never been one to challenge the rate issue. I set my rates according to the time I have available. I don’t have a lot of time available to see gentleman so my rate is higher. Why would I even consider lowering my rate when I don’t have time for the volume of $200-$275 lady? I have time available for the men that have been seeing me 10-15 years and some new friends.

My age and looks have never come into question even with new clients that have visited me recently and that is because I don’t lie about my age and my photos are accurate and I took them myself in June or July. I think for being 2 years away from 40 I am right where I want to be.

Casey


Curious why the OP started an obvious threAD when she only has four appointments per week? It shouldn't be that hard to find four compatible men or women to see every week. Maybe the OP charges too much for her time or provides mediocre service. Her reviews are good in regard to actual services performed. So I don't believe it's her service. So her rates are probably too high for her age/looks in light of the fierce provider competition in DFW.

Do you think her rates are too high based on her age/looks and availability of comparable providers offering their services for significantly less? Don't try to be a WK and say she doesn't charge enough if you're a nickel and dime hobbyist who want see a provider if she charges more than $200 per hour. That would be speaking out of both sides of your mouth. I've known Casey since back in the ASPD days when she was about 20 years old and did doubles with Marla. She could command more money then. A lot of water has passed under the bridge since. She has gotten older and the provider market has gotten more competitive. So it might be time for her to consider lowering her rates. Originally Posted by MW76
Curious why the OP started an obvious threAD when she only has four appointments per week? It shouldn't be that hard to find four compatible men or women to see every week. Maybe the OP charges too much for her time or provides mediocre service. Her reviews are good in regard to actual services performed. So I don't believe it's her service. So her rates are probably too high for her age/looks in light of the fierce provider competition in DFW.

Do you think her rates are too high based on her age/looks and availability of comparable providers offering their services for significantly less? Don't try to be a WK and say she doesn't charge enough if you're a nickel and dime hobbyist who want see a provider if she charges more than $200 per hour. That would be speaking out of both sides of your mouth. I've known Casey since back in the ASPD days when she was about 20 years old and did doubles with Marla. She could command more money then. Yes, I really did enjoy her company back then and was more than willing to pay her rate. I only saw her once, but still have great memories of that appointment. But a lot of water has passed under the bridge since. She has gotten older and the provider market has gotten more competitive. So it might be time for her to consider lowering her rates. Originally Posted by MW76
What the Fudge do her rates have to do with the topic? Good God !!!

I'm guessing that she gets a hell of a lot more than 4 REQUESTS per week. Reading the requests, doing the research required to make a decision on whether to see that person, responding, etc. all takes time. A LOT of time.

If YOUR inbox or phone was getting blown up by people asking for things that you've already said NO to, I'm betting you wouldn't be happy either.

And to the poster who intimated that a provider has to see anyone who asks because she's running a business: Another big Good God. Give it a break. It's these kind of stupid comments that made me stop posting on here for so long.

If Casey (or anyone else) says No, it means one thing: NO. Two little letters. It ain't rocket science. Get over it and move on. There are over 700 providers in DFW on eccie. Just find another one, for God's sake. Jeez, this stuff makes me crazy.

Okay, venting is done. Have a nice day.
casey_carlin's Avatar
Well that changes everything. Can’t have men dying, lol.

Casey


Yeah, but...sometimes a woman is so hot that, I HAVE to see her, or I'll die!!

You wouldn't...want me, to die, would you?? Originally Posted by Randall Creed
  • MW76
  • 10-13-2017, 09:37 AM
There's a reason this obvious threAD was started. As I stated on page 4, I believe provider may be charging too much for her age/looks and fierce provider competition in DFW. These things are making it hard for her to fill her 4 weekly appointments. Hence, the need for this obvious threAD. I'm not hating on the OP. Just stating factual observation. I saw her over 15 years ago during ASPD days when she was about 20 years old and doing doubles with Marla. We really hit it off and enjoyed each other. But a lot of water has passed under the bridge. Older looks coupled with more provider competition than 15 years ago means her rates may need to be adjusted if she's going to fill those 4 weekly appointments without posting obvious threADs.
Grace Preston's Avatar
I've known Casey for years-- she is one who never has an issue being booked. In the looks department, she can still run circles around a lot of much younger women as well. She is a Dallas Legend.. and that in and of itself is pretty much enough. Dallas is not as "tough" as some would like to make it out to be.. particularly not when you have a good core group of regulars.

I don't see it as a threAD either.. because this is becoming a big problem in DFW. I've had the same issue as well with telling a person NO and years later they are still steadily trying to get in past me as though I won't remember telling them no. One gent in chat does it so often that I've taken to answering him publicly so he'll get the message. I can understand it if it was originally a matter of references or a matter of timing.. but if I flat out tell you "I don't feel we'd be compatible" then that is the end of it.
Hercules's Avatar
Casey doesn't need an ad here. The only thing she's guilty of is thinking it's the good old days where a lady can post a topic and not have bunch of conspiracy trolls accuse her of all kinds of shit and derail her post.
Wile E Coyote's Avatar
I don't mean to sound like a creepy weirdo guy by saying this, but I don't think there's anything wrong with a little persistence. It's taken me 3-4 tries to see some ladies, but, when I finally got through and saw her, we both had a good time. Multiple visits ensued. This has happened with more than one provider. Hell, they've even leaned on me for real life favors, and apologizing for those initial, not so pleasant first contacts.

My point here is, not every guy that is a little persistent is a douchebag. At the same time, how many of you ladies have had guys that you thought were the greatest hobbyists ever, only to do something stupid and get on your shit list??

Just saying.

Edit: And board personas are overrated. I've heard more than once from providers, "You're nothing like in person how you seem on the boards." We adopt identities on this board, which may or may not be who we really are. Bruce Wayne and Batman are two completely different personas, but they are played by the same person. Originally Posted by Randall Creed
I agree. Nothing is wrong with a little persistence, especially if the provider is someone you really want to meet and see BCD for your reason(s). However, with all the providers out there, especially in the Dallas market, no need to beg a provider to spend your money on her.

Even tho it is true that the ladies can choose who they wish to see for sessions, providers that have preconceived notions (good or bad) about a john based soley upon what other hobbyists/providers who do not know or even met the guy say about him, are very foolish. How can a provider actually know if she is going to feel safe, respected and not get taken advantage of if she only goes by what others say that have not been BCD with him?

A novel idea is the converse with the providers he has seen and gather all the info you can to make an informed decision. Of course, all this being relevant if he initiates contact with you for a session.
Grace Preston's Avatar
I'm rather known for being someone who gets along well in person with most of the "board assholes". There are other cues that would cause a provider to preclude a gent from her pool. Over-persistence is one of them for many-- it reeks of someone who could be a potential problem child.

I've never declined a gent based on what others say about them (with the exception, of course, where violent behavior is concerned). I have, however, declined a gent based on what they choose to say to me directly. I have a really good sense of who I would and would not get along well with. Sometimes it isn't a matter of a gent having done anything wrong, its just a pure matter of compatibility. Why would I want to waste a guy's time when it is clear that we aren't likely going to have an enjoyable session? That's a waste of both of our time and the clients cash.
TheEccie214's Avatar
I agree. Nothing is wrong with a little persistence, especially if the provider is someone you really want to meet and see BCD for your reason(s). However, with all the providers out there, especially in the Dallas market, no need to beg a provider to spend your money on her.

Even tho it is true that the ladies can choose who they wish to see for sessions, providers that have preconceived notions (good or bad) about a john based soley upon what other hobbyists/providers who do not know or even met the guy say about him, are very foolish. How can a provider actually know if she is going to feel safe, respected and not get taken advantage of if she only goes by what others say that have not been BCD with him?

A novel idea is the converse with the providers he has seen and gather all the info you can to make an informed decision. Of course, all this being relevant if he initiates contact with you for a session. Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote
Agenda much? Sounds like you’re carrying some bitterness and anger towards some ladies.
Randall Creed's Avatar
Well said, Wile E.

And to add some clarification here, when I say being persistent, that doesn't mean you hound her for 10 days in a row, with hordes of PMs, emails, and such. Of course, I mean over time, soft persistence, so to speak. Many weeks, and even months sometimes between attempts.

And if your board presence is unfavorable, it wouldn't hurt to maybe touch it up a bit before you try again. So, yeah, just saying.
casey_carlin's Avatar
This exactly. I mean 20 years of being a provider myself I pretty much know if I am going to get along with you. Some may surprise me, but if your an ass to me before I meet you you have the potential to be an even bigger ass in person. It’s just more of a headache than I have time for these days.

Now sarcasm and funny guys we can have some fun.

Casey


I'm rather known for being someone who gets along well in person with most of the "board assholes". There are other cues that would cause a provider to preclude a gent from her pool. Over-persistence is one of them for many-- it reeks of someone who could be a potential problem child.

I've never declined a gent based on what others say about them (with the exception, of course, where violent behavior is concerned). I have, however, declined a gent based on what they choose to say to me directly. I have a really good sense of who I would and would not get along well with. Sometimes it isn't a matter of a gent having done anything wrong, its just a pure matter of compatibility. Why would I want to waste a guy's time when it is clear that we aren't likely going to have an enjoyable session? That's a waste of both of our time and the clients cash. Originally Posted by Grace Preston
casey_carlin's Avatar
This post has nothing to do with rates and my age. Btw your math is wrong. At least if your gonna call me old get my age right I am 38 if anyone cares to really know. Obviously we didn’t get along when I was 20 and you don’t truly know me.

Casey


There's a reason this obvious threAD was started. As I stated on page 4, I believe provider may be charging too much for her age/looks and fierce provider competition in DFW. These things are making it hard for her to fill her 4 weekly appointments. Hence, the need for this obvious threAD. I'm not hating on the OP. Just stating factual observation. I saw her over 15 years ago during ASPD days when she was about 20 years old and doing doubles with Marla. We really hit it off and enjoyed each other. But a lot of water has passed under the bridge. Older looks coupled with more provider competition than 15 years ago means her rates may need to be adjusted if she's going to fill those 4 weekly appointments without posting obvious threADs. Originally Posted by MW76
casey_carlin's Avatar
This is as true as it gets. When did everyone get so judgemental and hateful to each other? It’s actually really sad we can’t converse like the open minded adults we are supposed to be. This is a place where we should be able to have these discussions and I accepted questions open and honestly about it. I know when asking a question there are going to be 2 sides and some middle.

Casey


Casey doesn't need an ad here. The only thing she's guilty of is thinking it's the good old days where a lady can post a topic and not have bunch of conspiracy trolls accuse her of all kinds of shit and derail her post. Originally Posted by Hercules