Why Not Peacefully Secede Now?

Yes, the full force of the police state in Amerikka.....where you can have 100 TV channels, sports teams, nice long walks, big gardens and your own peace within yourself. Sure sounds like a miserable police state. Originally Posted by timpage

Did we not learn anything from Edward Snowden? He gave up his life in America for nothing because many people think the way you do.

OMG Snowden died?

Did we not learn anything from Edward Snowden? He gave up his life in America for nothing because many people think the way you do. Originally Posted by SecretE

Good point.

Did you also notice than TrannyTim used an icon with a racist image offensive to Asians - he is a racist asshole, I get that, but it still isn't right.

Of course you get it, JL. You're well known in the Asian sex slave industry.

Yes, the full force of the police state in Amerikka.....where you can have 100 TV channels, sports teams, nice long walks, big gardens and your own peace within yourself. Sure sounds like a miserable police state. Originally Posted by timpage

The opiates of the people. Distractions so we won't notice the freedom that slipping away. It's working on you, Tim.

Not much difference between how secession in America might happen and how the Rainbow Revolution worked..........both are political movements.

Some opine that secession is against the law (so is sodomy and gay marriage in some states); there was broad majority opposition to gay marriage (same with secession).

If/when secession happens it will be because people worked lawfully within existing laws.

What part of the secession movement is illegal? None. The right to organize, lobby, publish, petition, and otherwise support secession is legal.

Secession will happen in the same manner as the Rainbow Revolution. In essence, it will be a grass roots movement that starts out small and through persuasion and political activism, persuades a plurality of the American people that their cause is just.


BTW, your contention that Gay Marriage was accomplished by changing the hearts and minds of a majority of Americans is fantasy. All it took to change the laws was 5 votes on the SCOTUS. The gains in the LGBT community came thru the courts; not the ballot box. Court systems are dictatorial. They aren't required to give a fuck about what the majority of Americans think.

You are the dumbfuck for not knowing the difference and opining that the gay movement changed the hearts and minds of the majority of Americans. In every state that gay marriage was put to a vote, it failed. Elections are the only polling that matters. Gay rights were accomplished thru the courts, not consent of the majority of Americans. The court system is anti-democratic.

Yeah, SURE you're not making a case for secession. It just seems that way, right?

We have longer memories than you. Every time there is a thread about seceding or disobeying the federal government, you always jump in on the secessionist side don't you?

Why are you such a lying fuck?

And the Rainbow Revolution, in case you hadn't noticed, wasn't a secessionist movement or even a revolutionary movement for that matter.

It was a good example of a grass roots movement that started out small and through persuasion and political activism, persuaded a majority of the American people that their demand for equal treatment was just.

They worked within the system.

That is pretty much the opposite of a secessionist movement. So why did you bring them up?

In other words, why are you such a dumb fuck, Whirlagay? Originally Posted by ExNYer

Not much difference between how secession in America might happen and how the Rainbow Revolution worked..........both are political movements.

Some opine that secession is against the law (so is sodomy and gay marriage in some states); there was broad majority opposition to gay marriage (same with secession).

If/when secession happens it will be because people worked lawfully within existing laws.

What part of the secession movement is illegal? None. The right to organize, lobby, publish, petition, and otherwise support secession is legal.

Secession will happen in the same manner as the Rainbow Revolution. In essence, it will be a grass roots movement that starts out small and through persuasion and political activism, persuades a plurality of the American people that their cause is just.


BTW, your contention that Gay Marriage was accomplished by changing the hearts and minds of a majority of Americans is fantasy. All it took to change the laws was 5 votes on the SCOTUS. The gains in the LGBT community came thru the courts; not the ballot box. Court systems are dictatorial. They aren't required to give a fuck about what the majority of Americans think.

You are the dumbfuck for not knowing the difference and opining that the gay movement changed the hearts and minds of the majority of Americans. In every state that gay marriage was put to a vote, it failed. Elections are the only polling that matters. Gay rights were accomplished thru the courts, not consent of the majority of Americans. The court system is anti-democratic. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

If Biden was elected maybe he could divide the USA up like he proposed to do in Iraq.