Providers not providing references for other providers?

This is an interesting thread.
Just like the rest of my personal and business life, I look at my hobby references the same as my credit and business references. It is my responsibility to make an easy path for my lender, supplier or provider to check me out.

I always give ample time for a new provider to check me out. P411 has been the best reference and I make sure that I have current okays. I also have a couple of ladies that I see regularly who, though they say they get a little jealous, do give references when asked. But, I do go back to them regularly!!!!

And I have reviews on a few different boards that are used in other parts of the country, which also helps.

There are two parts to this process. I know too many guys whose ego make this more difficult for the ladies.

Wow, I saw my name listed as somebody who doesn't give references for clients. That hurts!!! Ladies, Gentlemen, you know me better than that. Originally Posted by stephanie1

So what happend then?

Wow, I saw my name listed as somebody who doesn't give references for clients. That hurts!!! Ladies, Gentlemen, you know me better than that. Originally Posted by stephanie1

How does that "hurt"? Lmao, are you serious?

So what happend then? Originally Posted by BBW Katrina

Katrina. I haven't met you YET. But I think I'm really going to like you. I love the way you bring it. That is so freaking sexy.
And I know the lady I will give as a reference will definitely answer on the first try.

Wow, I saw my name listed as somebody who doesn't give references for clients. That hurts!!! Ladies, Gentlemen, you know me better than that. Originally Posted by stephanie1

I can vouch for stephanie1. she was the first I ever saw in this hobby and has always provided references for me, even though it's been a while since I saw her.

I can vouch for stephanie1. she was the first I ever saw in this hobby and has always provided references for me, even though it's been a while since I saw her. Originally Posted by darkwader

That was then, this is now.

Katrina. I haven't met you YET. But I think I'm really going to like you. I love the way you bring it. That is so freaking sexy.
And I know the lady I will give as a reference will definitely answer on the first try. Originally Posted by micktoz

I know she will

personally i never understood how a "yeah, hes fine" from a stranger really meant anything anyway....

thats just me.

THN I'm so sorry about not replying I didn't realize I did that. I know I've been out of town alot and I don't get good service where my mother lives, but that's no justification. take these references very seriously in fact I sometimes feel I reply more to those than anything but I will be sure to be more aware. I appreciate you pointing that out and again, I am sorry please note for future you can count on me.

personally i never understood how a "yeah, hes fine" from a stranger really meant anything anyway....

thats just me. Originally Posted by Alyssa Marie

Since I do not give references as I am not a provider, but I think the references should parallel the same as giving an OK to a hobbyist on p411: First and foremost, did he see you for a BCD session? (if not, then her opinion is irrelevant). Did he respect your time and your person? Did he have the requested donation? Did he have good and clean hygiene?

personally i never understood how a "yeah, hes fine" from a stranger really meant anything anyway....

thats just me. Originally Posted by Alyssa Marie

Since I do not give references as I am not a provider, but IMO, the reference check should parallel the same as giving an OK to a hobbyist on p411: First and foremost, did he see you for a BCD session? (if not, then her opinion is irrelevant anyway). Did he respect your time and your person? Did he have and give you the requested donation? Did he have good and clean hygiene?

Any other question or statement regarding said hobbyist may or may not weigh in on the decision to pass screening depending on the comfort level. But, theories and baseless assumptions should not be met with any merit just like she has probably never met him. As I said, some providers have blowing smoke up your ass agendas.

That was then, this is now. Originally Posted by BBW Katrina

"this" was 2 days ago

Happens more often than need be

Just food for thought to ladies who are bad about giving refs: I can only speak for myself but I pass up on seeing a girls who I know they do not help out with refs. There's a lot a girls who haven't sucked me off yet. It helps the cause when refs are easily given for me.

I'm sure I'm not the only guy

"this" was 2 days ago Originally Posted by darkwader

"I can vouch for stephanie1. she was the first I ever saw in this hobby and has always provided references for me, EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I SAW HER."


You said it bro, not me. I wasn't making shit up...