Here is my weekend experience, thus far with providers

it does to you or you would have not brought it up, right? Look, I do not have any ill will to anyone here, I am just tired of reading posts that try to belittle me and yes, I do take exception because most people that do that talk out their ass and have no idea but a bunch of biased conjecture that do not hold water and state it as fact. I would prefer you say it out in the open on a thread because I get bad mouthed via open thread, not PM.

Im sorry you feel that way. If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you.

I have been asked to close this thread. After reading it, I understand why that is desired, but it is not justified. The OP made comments about a situation that he does not care for. Many members would agree.

It is sad that the thread has left the original subject and degenerated into personal attacks, as often happens. The subject of the thread is a legitimate discussion subject. It will not be closed as others may have legitimate comment related to the subject.

Now for the punch line. Free shots are over. Comment on the original subject only, or do not post on this thread. Stay on track or read only. Personal attacks, accusations, and rudeness will unfortunately make me even less popular than I currently am. I would prefer not to have that happen.

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then let me repeat what I said in post #45, It is too bad that threads such as this about providers that NCNS or give clients the run around such as this cannot be attached to their profile like the reviews are, because if they were, that BS would still happen, but it would be fewer and far between incidents of the nature of my OP. Instead, it just goes away over time, but if a client did a few NCNS or maybe set up a few appointments to meet a provider for an outcall and sent her to the wrong house on the other side of town, then she would blacklist him and that does not ever go away.

No that is not sarcastic, that is a legit statement and a true fact.

NHR...I have a question but it may be a silly one since I am not a hobbyist and I only go from my experience and my point-of-view. Wouldn't it be better if you make plans a day ahead or if possible several days with a reputable reliable ladies? I get requests from new people a lot and I rarely get it on the same day cause I'm too busy with life sometimes and I don't check email 24/7, same day appt for a new client doesn't give enough time for screening, and last minute request is not appealing to me if I'm busy running errands....or I may not be in the mood to play. Is it possible if you plan a little more ahead of time, it will minimize the run around? Anything can happen of course, but I just believe proper planning will help minimize/eliminate your trouble.
Now if you have a crazy schedule which doesn't allow you to plan ahead ... Then I would think the type of outcome you had could be predicted.

Good question and thought samantha, but as far as this particular instance goes, Lucy of Dallas was online as she had just placed a weekend ad, so I just shot her a PM and she responded back that she would love to see me, so we chatted some (I still have the PMs) and she gave me her cell so we could chat some more, but her delayed responses were a bit disturbing and her excuse for them was she was putting the kids to bed, in the middle of the afternoon! I should have known from that it may be a mistake to schedule with her, but sometimes, when you listen to that little head, you tend to make those judgement mistakes. I have moved on from her, but the jist of the thread is not to whine and complain, but to let others be aware of what a particular provider, in in this case 2, did to me so that it may help in the wanting to schedule to see them.

And when not if the same circumstances happen to others with any provider, a new thread should be started about it, and, yes, I will do it again, I do not care who or how popular the provider is.

then let me repeat what I said in post #45, It is too bad that threads such as this about providers that NCNS or give clients the run around such as this cannot be attached to their profile like the reviews are, because if they were, that BS would still happen, but it would be fewer and far between incidents of the nature of my OP. Instead, it just goes away over time, but if a client did a few NCNS or maybe set up a few appointments to meet a provider for an outcall and sent her to the wrong house on the other side of town, then she would blacklist him and that does not ever go away.

No that is not sarcastic, that is a legit statement and a true fact. Originally Posted by NearHauteRed

I had a "review" rejected because "no activities" took place. I had this in a review format because I scheduled the appointment, I showed up for the appointment, I paid for the appointment, then I was give an upsell for money I didn't even have with me.
The provider kept $100, performed nothing more than a hug when I got there.
So this "review" was rejected, and because it was considered no review because no activities took place (I feel like I got screwed) it will not be linked to her profile so others that are researching her may miss some really important information. Information that I think is just as valuable if not more valuable than a review listing all of the various positions somebody performed. I went thru all of that because I am still not happy that' it's not going to be linked to her profile (don't care that much about review credit but that needs to be linked to her profile for others to see). So things like this and things like no shows should be linked to their profiles if we really are trying to inform people of certain behaviors.

P411 on the other hand permanently linked my "review" on her profile page and she's unable to remove it. At least if you're scheduling with her thru that site you will have a better chance of seeing it.

Luckily for her, Lucy of Dallas is not a p411 provider or I would have done just that or at least let them know via chat so they could notate her account, and luckily for me, the only money I spent was the fuel to get to and from her supposed incall, thanks L.A. for that. I sent an email to Gina about the provider who was on p411 that I mentioned in the ML, Nadia817, and from what I can tell, her account has been suspended pending investigation, but, like the others I have mentioned, she has no ground to stand on that can justify what she did to me. Providers got it good in circumstances such as this, they can give a guy the run around, NCNS or worse, and all you can do as a hobbyist is open a thread that will eventually die so out of site, out of mind. OTOH, a hobbyist does the same thing to a provider, he gets put on a DNS permanent blacklist that never goes away, and I bet over half of the blacklisted clients are mere vendettas of jilted providers who have no reason personal safety wise, to put him on there. I actually would love a mod's opinion on it.

NHR maybe the lady was able to see you till you said something that made her think she was not interested anymore and did not want to tell you but came up with the kids as an excuse. If you are on P411 with plenty of Okays then just find a lady and book that way if she does not have P411 just move on to the lady that does. There are plenty of ladies that will see you. Threads like this isn't a great way to make ladies want to see you..

I pulled this up for you so a mod wouldn't have to go out of their way explaining it for the umpteenth time just so you feel special. Like I have said before, you couldn't be more wrong. Here is it from the mods mouth:

Most male members can just drop their hobby account and create a new one. Yes, so can many women. The difference is that when a woman is well established, she can't fool anyone for too long. They don't have the luxury of pulling a disappearing act as easily as the guys can. I understand her getting angrier than the guys. Her board identity and business is deeply attached to the handle.


Originally Posted by Matador

So no, hearsay accusations and negative comments which may come from jilted hobbyists should not be attached to a providers showcase like a review because the validity of it is questionable since most times the provider will deny it, true or not. Same with accusations aimed at hobbyists. And blacklisted assholes can reappear anytime under a new handle (maybe even nearhautered). I don't expect you will care what I quoted above. You will likely continue on with this tempter tantrum about how providers have it so good and hobbyists get treated so badly. wtf ever!

You have something against providers obviously. You are incapable of seeing how your actions contributed to your shitty hobby weekend and seeing the way you reacted to my open apology its not hard to imagine why you had a shitty time. You come off to be as a guy who would bitch if his ice cream was too cold.

Hope your turkey isn't too juicy or stuffing too moist! Jeez! Hope you have a happy thanksgiving either way. Peace!

Ok folks, my apologies for trying to bring to light what a couple of providers did to me. I will from now on just keep the providers that play games, NCNS and the like under my hat and let others find out the hard way. Then when another members speaks his mind about how a provider gave the run around and I respond saying, Oh yes, I remember her, she did the same to me, and then I will get told, well why didn’t you say anything before, I could have saved time and money and just get ripped that way because either way, it will happen. As far as Matador's post goes, and I thank you for pulling that up, what about the guy who has sessions with providers under a handle and they are great sessions and he wants to continue to see them, but ditches the handle and comes back on with a new one, sees one of those said providers and writes a review with the new handle? This site would be nothing without members run it up the flag pole theories that are baseless and unprovable, but try as they might state it as fact or at least get others to think the same way just because. I have the proof of what I am talking about in my phone as well as in my PM box as I knew that I would be told I was FOS, but even if I showed it in black and white, then I would still not be believed, just as I was not believed that I have a p411 account much less the number of okays. Thanks for your apology again, thathothurse, perhaps, in time you will be apologizing for running me under the bus once again. Peace!

That sounds about right.

I just had to comment on this, after reading this entire thread. OP, we have never met so take this for what it's worth. I too, have been around for awhile, years before Amber even started the other board. Back when Harry Hines Blvd. was alive and we'll. With the exception of A few ladies like THN who posted above, many of the ladies have no TCB skills. I'm not bashing anyone, just stating a fact. On the other hand, with 30 P411 OK's, why would you care? There are thousands of providers in the DFW area. In addition to several of the Asian Massage places. Getting laid in Dallas, is not a problem.
Point being, try to accept it like it is. Realize that many of these ladies may be flakey, And just move on to the next one. Getting laid, will make you forget all about the ones who stood you up.

I just had to comment on this, after reading this entire thread. OP, we have never met so take this for what it's worth. I too, have been around for awhile, years before Amber even started the other board. Back when Harry Hines Blvd. was alive and we'll. With the exception of A few ladies like THN who posted above, many of the ladies have no TCB skills. I'm not bashing anyone, just stating a fact. On the other hand, with 30 P411 OK's, why would you care? There are thousands of providers in the DFW area. In addition to several of the Asian Massage places. Getting laid in Dallas, is not a problem.
Point being, try to accept it like it is. Realize that many of these ladies may be flakey, And just move on to the next one. Originally Posted by Crzytxn

I understand your point and appreciate your candor. My point of this thread was not to bitch about a couple of flaky providers, the point I was trying to make was that they did what they did to me, so when you think about seeing those particular ladies, keep in mind what I went through with them, pretty simple. Then this thread turned into one that I am full of shit and have to prove this and that and still get told I am wrong. So, as I said, not if, but when a situation like this comes up again with me or anyone else, I will not say a word about when it happens to me and when it happens to others, I could also tell them to prove it and even then tell them they are full of shit because providers just do not do that unless provoked, or just comment that I remember her, she did the same to me in the past. Sorry about not posting that info, I was told when I did post before on the subject, that I have to be wrong and other providers came on the thread and tried to rationalize why a provider did what she did by either throwing back on me like it is my fault she is a flake, or what ever other supposed logical reasons they want to use to legitimize the situation as if she has a right to do it. No, I am not bashing all providers like it was said I was doing in a blanket statement, but a few providers that decide to waste my time and/or money, I want to let the community know as I thought this was an information exchange site for all aspects of the hobby, good and bad.

I too, have been around for awhile, years before Amber even started the other board. Back when Harry Hines Blvd. was alive and well Originally Posted by Crzytxn

Gawdam somebody as old as I am? Holy fuckballs! When all the ladies would sit in or on their cars with the lights on, there were probably 10 decent (and several skanky) "Nude Modeling" studios on the strip. Damn. There was this tall blonde, had a red 450SLC, oh my gawd...

Dude speaks the truth as well.

And no potshots here, but why all the anger and belligerant rants on the wimmin? Why not drop it in the experience bin and move on? He said, some 70+ posts later...