Has a Liberal and/or Illegal Immigrant Sympathizer answered yet? Originally Posted by LexusLover
Immigration sympathizer here....I've answered her but it appears not to be the answer she is looking for or she is having a hard time understanding that this is a complicated situation that no wall will solve.
Trump lied about Mexico paying for the wall and turns around and hires them to work at his properties.
See how complicated just that small nugget of truth is?
Our President wants to limit immigration, except for the industries he is involved in. Simple hypocrisy but evidently to complicated for his folliwrrs to grasp.
Kinda like the tax cut....he skewed that to business and the wealthy. Now they (The GOP) are talking about cutting SS and Medicare because of the tax cuts to the wealthy. In other words they want the common man to pay for these tax cuts!
Complicated. ...well not for some of us they are naturally born able to follow the money and spot liars. Originally Posted by WTF
Maybe you should exit this thread then...the thread subject was about solutions and if you are not capable of understanding how illegal/legal immigration is under the stroke of a pen, and thus both under the auspices of comprehensive immigration reform , well then it will be difficult to get anything productive from that limited mindset.
With all due respect .....
.... I don't really care what an "Immigration sympathizer" posts.
The postings of an "Immigration sympathizer" are not relevant.
Originally Posted by LexusLover
Nope sugar,He has been proven a really bad business man but he is a wonderful promoter and even better liar.
Trump is using the current laws - if the law changes as he wants it to then he will no longer be able to employee those people. He's a good businessman - that's what they do - take advantage of any law that will benefit your company.
Originally Posted by Austin Ellen
I'm still waiting.................... Originally Posted by Austin Ellen
From the Democratic Party Platform:https://democrats.org/about/party-platform/
Fixing our Broken Immigration System
The United States was founded as, and continues to be, a country of immigrants from throughout the world. It is no coincidence that the Statue of Liberty is one of our most profound national symbols. And that is why Democrats believe immigration is not just a problem to be solved, it is a defining aspect of the American character and our shared history.
The Democratic Party supports legal immigration, within reasonable limits, that meets the needs of families, communities, and the economy as well as maintains the United States’ role as a beacon of hope for people seeking safety, freedom, and security. People should come to the United States with visas and not through smugglers. Yet, we recognize that the current immigration system is broken.
More than 11 million people are living in the shadows, without proper documentation. The immigration bureaucracy is full of backlogs that result in U.S. citizens waiting for decades to be reunited with family members, and green card holders waiting for years to be reunited with their spouses and minor children. The current quota system discriminates against certain immigrants, including immigrants of color, and needs to be reformed to the realities of the 21st century. And there are real questions about our detention and deportation policies that must be addressed.
Democrats believe we need to urgently fix our broken immigration system—which tears families apart and keeps workers in the shadows—and create a path to citizenship for law-abiding families who are here, making a better life for their families and contributing to their communities and our country. We should repeal the 3-year, 10-year and permanent bars, which often force persons in mixed status families into the heartbreaking dilemma of either pursuing a green card by leaving the country and their loved ones behind, or remaining in the shadows. We will work with Congress to end the forced and prolonged expulsion from the country that these immigrants endure when trying to adjust their status.
We must fix family backlogs and defend against those who would exclude or eliminate legal immigration avenues and denigrate immigrants. Those immigrants already living in the United States, who are assets to their communities and contribute so much to our country, should be incorporated completely into our society through legal processes that give meaning to our national motto: E Pluribus Unum.
And while we continue to fight for comprehensive immigration reform, we will defend and implement President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and Deferred Action for Parents of Americans executive actions to help DREAMers, parents of citizens, and lawful permanent residents avoid deportation. We will build on these actions to provide relief for others, such as parents of DREAMers. We will support efforts by states to make DREAMers eligible for driver’s licenses and in-state college tuition. We will invest in culturally-appropriate immigrant integration services, expand access to English language education, and promote naturalization to help the millions of people who are eligible for citizenship take that last step.
We believe immigration enforcement must be humane and consistent with our values. We should prioritize those who pose a threat to the safety of our communities, not hardworking families who are contributing to their communities. We will end raids and roundups of children and families, which unnecessarily sow fear in immigrant communities. We disfavor deportations of immigrants who served in our armed forces, and we want to create a faster path for such veterans to citizenship.
We should ensure due process for those fleeing violence in Central America and work with our regional partners to address the root causes of violence. We must take particular care with children, which is why we should guarantee government-funded counsel for unaccompanied children in immigration courts. We should consider all available means of protecting these individuals from the threats to their lives and safety—including strengthening in-country and third-country processing, expanding the use of humanitarian parole, and granting Temporary Protected Status.
We will promote best practices among local law enforcement, in terms of how they collaborate with federal authorities, to ensure that they maintain and build trust between local law enforcement and the communities they serve. We will also vigorously oversee any programs put in place, to make sure that there are no abuses and no arbitrary deportation programs. We will establish an affirmative process for workers to report labor violations and to request deferred action. We will work to ensure that all Americans—regardless of immigration status—have access to quality health care. That means expanding community health centers, allowing all families to buy into the Affordable Care Act exchanges, supporting states that open up their public health insurance programs to all persons, and finally enacting comprehensive immigration reform. And we will expand opportunities for DREAMers to serve in the military and to then receive expedited pathways to citizenship.
We will fight to end federal, state, and municipal contracts with for-profit private prisons and private detention centers.In order to end family detention, we will ensure humane alternatives for those who pose no public threat. We recognize that there are vulnerable communities within our immigration system who are often seeking refuge from persecution abroad, such as LGBT families, for whom detention can be unacceptably dangerous.
We reject attempts to impose a religious test to bar immigrants or refugees from entering the United States. It is un-American and runs counter to the founding principles of this country.
Finally, Democrats will not stand for the divisive and derogatory language of Donald Trump. His offensive comments about immigrants and other communities have no place in our society. This kind of rhetoric must be rejected. Originally Posted by oeb11
Uh ... this is posted in this thread.Wow, give her what she ask for and she denies that you gave it to her.
Exactly what are you waiting for, Ellen?
Argue all you like, but there’s something to be said for facts. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Maybe you should exit this thread then...the thread subject was about solutions and if you are not capable of understanding how illegal/legal immigration is under the stroke of a pen, and thus both under the auspices of comprehensive immigration reform , well then it will be difficult to get anything productive from that limited mindset. Originally Posted by WTFI'm intimately acquainted with both legal immigration and illegal immigration ... it has the same distinction as consensual sex and rape ... aside from THE FACT that one is LEGAL AND THE OTHER ILLEGAL ...
The Democrats answer to illegal immigration is to simply make it legal. Originally Posted by Jackie S... they've been ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist.
