Border at breaking point

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The OP was crisis at the border, which the article said it was manufactured.

Originally Posted by bamscram

Seriously? Can you read and comprehend what you are reading? The article you cited is arguing the exact opposite of what you say it is. You obviously aint too bright, Ekim!
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Who is EKIM????
lustylad's Avatar
At the moment he is a YUGE Trump supporter.

Baahahahaha!!
I B Hankering's Avatar
At the moment he is a YUGE Trump supporter.

Baahahahaha!! Originally Posted by lustylad
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Seriously? Can you read and comprehend what you are reading? The article you cited is arguing the exact opposite of what you say it is. You obviously aint too bright, Ekim! Originally Posted by NiceGuy53
you are going to hurt Ekim's feeling's I always thought he was Retarded Lenny


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FTFY, mystic. Originally Posted by lustylad
That shows a real lack of conviction in your own beliefs when you censor other peoples posts. Just like the MAGA hat Cowards who are scardy cats and wouldn't dare wear them in public, you are part of that ilk. Im officially turning in my Lusty fan club membership. I don't affiliate myself with cowards. Stick with teaching grammar Lusty, you are to weak for anything else
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Seriously? Can you read and comprehend what you are reading? The article you cited is arguing the exact opposite of what you say it is. You obviously aint (sis) too bright, Ekim! Originally Posted by NiceGuy53
My name isn't ekin Jussie looks like you didn't read to the end before starting your mouth.
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Baahahahaha!! You're cracking me up today, ekim!

Why don't we just reprint the entire article for everyone to read for themselves, beginning with the screaming headline. Fortunately, the rest of us have better comprehension skills than you!!

Trump says thanks again for your support, biggen!!


Yes, There’s a Crisis at the Border

By RICH LOWRY March 06, 2019

Rich Lowry is editor of National Review and a contributing editor with Politico Magazine.

We interrupt the talk of the president “manufacturing” a crisis at the border with this hair-raising report about the crisis at the border.

Alarming new numbers about border apprehensions from U.S. Customs and Border Protection should puncture the lazy conventional wisdom about the border being under control, except in the lurid imagination of President Donald Trump.

All during the fight over a border wall, we were told by the media and progressives commentators that the border is practically locked down because apprehensions are down from highs in the 2000s. Along with almost every other critic of the president, Steve Schmidt was outraged that “the president of the United States would manufacture out of whole cloth this crisis.”

Being anti-Trump means never having to say you are sorry or you were wrong, so the latest evidence won’t make an impression on anyone who blithely dismissed the idea of border crisis. But it should.

More than 76,000 migrants were apprehended crossing the southern border last month, the highest February in more than 10 years and the highest month of the Trump administration. The number of apprehensions tops any month during the 2014 border surge under President Barack Obama, which no one had a problem calling a crisis at the time.

Every indication is that the situation is going to get worse. We could be about to experience a migrant surge worthy of Angela Merkel at her most open-handed, even though, in immigration terms, Viktor Orbán - the Hungarian prime minister who favors tough border enforcement - is president.

The commentary and fact-checks about there being no crisis have missed, or deliberately ignored, the changing nature of border apprehensions.

Yes, there were more overall apprehensions in the 2000s. But it was a different population, made up overwhelmingly of adult males from Mexico who might be apprehended trying to cross multiple times and were reliably returned home when they were caught. Now, we are apprehending people but not returning them.

Migrants are coming in greater numbers from Central American countries instead of Mexico, and are primarily families and children. In an astonishing shift, in 2012, 10 percent of apprehended migrants were families and children; in recent months, it’s been 61 percent.

The rules for dealing with migrants from noncontiguous countries and with family units make it all but impossible to swiftly return or detain them, not to mention that our physical facilities were built with single adults in mind.

There is no mechanism to return these migrants home, to hold them after they cross the border, or to remove them once they are in the interior. And word has gotten out. There’s a reason that the subset of migrants that we can’t stop from getting into the country is rapidly growing.

The trend is for these migrants to come by bus, reducing the trek to days, and to travel in large groups. In recent months, 70 groups larger than a hundred showed up. There were just 13 such groups the year before, and two the year before that. They simply turn themselves in because they know they will make it into the country.

The system is overloaded. According to The New York Times, a group housing immigrants in El Paso, Texas, had 3,600 migrants released to its care in one week in February, the most in one week since the group started more than 40 years ago.

Once they arrive, the migrants are unlikely to be made to leave. ICE has limited resources and more urgent priorities, even if the necessary detention space existed.

Needless to say, a spiraling border crisis is maddening for a president committed to controlling the border, which is why we’ve seen such frenetic activity from Trump.

He’s tried to prosecute all adults crossing the border illegally, and had to abandon it in the (understandable) firestorm over the resulting family separations. He’s tried to jawbone Mexico into helping, with some success, although migrants are still traveling through Mexico in large numbers. He’s tried to tighten up asylum policy, but been blocked in the courts. He’s tried to get Congress to fix the rules for dealing with migrants, to no avail. And, of course, he’s tried to build a wall.

Trump’s rhetoric may be over the top and his focus on the wall too monomaniacal, but the impulse to get a handle on this is absolutely correct.

First, there’s the question of basic sovereignty. If we are going to welcome a large number of migrants - and over time perhaps a significant portion of the population - from three or four foreign countries, we should make that decision as a conscious policy, rather than slip-sliding into it unawares.

Then, there’s the matter of assimilation and legality. Poorly educated immigrants, like the ones coming from Central America, have the hardest time assimilating, and they will lack legal status on top of it. We are adding the next tranche of so-called Dreamers who will require yet another amnesty.

Finally, there’s the humanitarian question. Migrant families show up needing medical attention that we aren’t well-prepared to provide. We’d be much better positioned to tend to the migrants under our care, and focus on the needs of the relatively small number of legitimate asylum seekers, if the numbers weren’t overwhelming.

But we are at a stalemate. The Times editorialized the other day that Trump declared “that there’s a crisis at the border, contrary to all evidence.” Then, the paper ran a news story headlined, “Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month.”

Both of those pieces can’t be right. There’s manufacturing a crisis, then there’s ignoring one for fear of conceding anything to Trump. Originally Posted by lustylad

Keep repeating your story Jussie they will believe it ,hahahaha.
bamscram's Avatar
Seriously? Can you read and comprehend what you are reading? The article you cited is arguing the exact opposite of what you say it is. You obviously aint too bright, Ekim! Originally Posted by NiceGuy53
At the moment he is a YUGE Trump supporter.

Baahahahaha!! Originally Posted by lustylad
Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Looks like there is more than one Jussie Smolett in this forum.

Keep repeating your BS story girls no one believes you anyway.


My post was about crisis on the border, these are off topic.
  • oeb11
  • 03-08-2019, 05:48 PM
BS - You quoted an interesting report above
Please show some evidence supporting your contrarian viewpoint
Thank You.
I B Hankering's Avatar
Looks like there is more than one Jussie Smolett in this forum.

Keep repeating your BS story girls no one believes you anyway.


My post was about crisis on the border, these are off topic. Originally Posted by bamscram
It was your fucking article Lusty quoted; hence, not "off topic". YOUR fucking article cited points out that there is indeed a crisis on the border. Chucky, Nancy, hildebeest, Slick Willie and Odumbo were saying the same damn thing until November 2016.
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It was your fucking article Lusty quoted; hence, not "off topic". YOUR fucking article cited points out that there is indeed a crisis on the border. Chucky, Nancy, hildebeest, Slick Willie and Odumbo were saying the same damn thing until November 2016. Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Trump is not a leader. Just like Bush 43 allowed our country to be attacked. Thank God for democrats protecting my 2nd amendment rights. unlike the scardy cat Trump D Bags Im not scared to live and go where I want and do what I want. Im not scared of a bunch of women and children trying to come across the border
NiceGuy53's Avatar
My name isn't ekin Jussie looks like you didn't read to the end before starting your mouth. Originally Posted by bamscram



I read the entire article. Are you still claiming this article argues that the situation on the border is a manufactured crisis when in fact it is arguing just the opposite? Talk about doubling down on stupid. Sad, very sad, Ekim.


Did you ever find Nathan Phillips's service record proving that he was a Vietnam War veteran? Inquiring minds would like to know.
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I read the entire article. Are you still claiming this article argues that the situation on the border is a manufactured crisis when in fact it is arguing just the opposite? Talk about doubling down on stupid. Sad, very sad, Ekim.


Did you ever find Nathan Phillips's service record proving that he was indeed a Vietnam War veteran? Originally Posted by NiceGuy53
Vietnam ERA Veteran. He served with IB Hankering
I B Hankering's Avatar
Vietnam ERA Veteran. He served with IB Hankering Originally Posted by themystic
The Marines kicked Philips out and told him he couldn't reenlist. So, Philips trotted right over the the registrars office and enlisted as a dim-retard to be with you, Jussie.