I not only linked to Obama's remarks (you've heard of him?) but I copied them. Obama said that we have to consider the same kind of laws that England and Australia have for this country. What England and Australia have is a ban and a confiscation. So that is what Obama is advocating.
A gun ban is the ultimate goal of the left.
Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Your last statement is total BS. To say that the goal of the left is to ban guns is the same as saying the goal of the right is to do away with all gun control laws. Neither is correct. I am a little left of center and I do not support a gun ban.
You are right on Obama pushing for stronger gun control laws. You are wrong in your statements about England and Australia:
I usually don't quote Wikipedia and I'll be happy to cite different sources if you like.
"A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Australia and that no individual may possess them. Although it is true that Australia has restrictive firearms laws, rifles and shotguns (both of which include semi-automatics), as well as handguns, are all legal within a narrow set of criteria.
As of 2015 about 815,000 people had a gun licence in Australia and there were around 3.5 to 5.5 million Registered Firearms in Australia.
In England:
Shotgun possession and use is controlled, and even low-power air rifles and pistols, while permitted, are controlled to some extent. A Firearm Certificate issued by the police is required for all weapons and ammunition except air weapons of modest power (of muzzle energy not over 12 ft·lbf (16 J) for rifles, and 6 ft·lbf (8.1 J) for pistols). Shotguns with a capacity of three rounds or less (up to guns with a magazine holding no more than two rounds, in addition to one in the chamber) are subject to less stringent licensing requirements than other firearms and require a shotgun certificate; shotguns with higher capacity require a Firearm Certificate.
And from
https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-peopl...he-UK-own-guns
"You cannot own fully automatic firearms, semi-automatic firearms of calibre greater than .22, or handguns. But this still leaves a significant amount of legal weapons.
It's actually fairly easy to get a shotgun licence, because you don't have to provide a reason to own one, rather the assumption is that you can unless the police have good reason to prevent it. A firearms licence for a rifle, however, is harder to get because you have to have a good reason to have one. Self or home defence does not count as a good reason."