What would you do???

Damn trust fund babies! He has nothing else better to do but wait, he has to get rid of all those damn T-shirts he bought.

Hey SL does the 9 and 1/2 inches mean that is what you are short of being 12 inches???? That is funny I do not care who you are! BURN Originally Posted by Artist Formally Known As

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http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=376553&page=83

You do others here a tremendous disservice by never posting that.

As much money as you spend, as much potential business as you represent, the idea that an Agency would ALWAYS make you wait 10-15 minutes is deplorable.....

I would bet a lot of other guys are made to wait longer and probably a few would not wait as long had you ever reported that. Originally Posted by Whispers

Sorry Whispers.... I'm not a bad guy for being understanding. The agency made me aware each time of the delay. As would I if I ran late. I believe others as well have posted they would wait 10-15 minutes. But I'm the bad guy! Hummmm......

I know I've been at least 20 minutes late for appts because of traffic/bad planning. Maybe i'm more forgiving than most but I'd give 10 to 15 minutes...then i'd try to find out what happened before passing any judgement. Originally Posted by bueller22

This is an Information Hooker Board. How do we share information? In the threads and reviews. Picking people out and giving them shit certainly isn't productive. Perhaps I might recommend posting some more reviews. That certainly helps the providers you profess to care about and accomplishes the task at hand. And you have posted... hang on let me take a count... oh my, looks like you have your work cut out for you! Originally Posted by Still Looking

People who talk shit like they know something, and really don't, shouldn't be upset when other people give them shit. I've never seen you post anything that would lead me to believe you have a higher IQ than the guy in your avatar...wait a minute, you're (not your) that guy!!!

People who talk shit like they know something, and really don't, shouldn't be upset when other people give them shit. I've never seen you post anything that would lead me to believe you have a higher IQ than the guy in your avatar...wait a minute, you're (not your) that guy!!! Originally Posted by trynagetlaid

Now there is something we can both agree upon! Oh... where’s my manners... thank you for your one time contribution.

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http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=376553&page=83 Originally Posted by Still Looking

Uh um I like the way I said it better.... That was funny...

Have a sense of humor tiny Tim.

Uh um I like the way I said it better.... That was funny...

Have a sense of humor tiny Tim. Originally Posted by Artist Formally Known As

Me? A sense of humor?

In his mind... well... in my mind... If I have an appt at 9:30 I expect to be face to face with a gal at 9:30.

Not waiting for a room number.... walking to a room... knocking on a door... getting greeted..... etc....etc.....

Is it unreasonable?

Probably in a lot of folks eyes ....... but you ladies need to understand the frustration on our side of the table these days......

more and more NCNS happens even though more and more ladies seem to be looking for more business.....

One of the benefits of dealing with an agency is you are normally communicating with a handler up to the time of the appt. not the lady herself.

So it is not unreasonable to expect communication from the handler.....

the girl is on the scene... she is getting ready... she is almost ready... here is the room number..... have a great time.....

It might be less of an expectation with an Indy.....


The economy is stressing many out... this may very well have been the moment he was looking forward to all week..... Originally Posted by Whispers

Ok mark your calendar. I agree with Whispers here. Life happens sure but it only takes 30 seconds to text your client that something is delaying you. 99% of us will happily sit in the parking lot 10 minutes then. But when we have a time set, and we are on time, and then communication seems to fail. well, it could have been handled better and avoided this thread.

Cant respond to every post... there are just far to many... which is good! To clarify on one thing, i went back and checked (Still have the messages) it was not 15m without response. It was 7minutes, not that that makes it any better... just wanted to clarify. The reason the room # was not given was due to several different reasons. The most important one being that we have had clients show up 10-15 minutes early when the girl is still finishing make up or room prep. So upon the girls request they actually don't like exact location given out until i contact them first and ask if they are ready. Another reason is, to many times in the past the exact location has been given out and the guy does not show... so now not only did he not show... he knows right where the girl is. I personally never gave out exact location or room # when i was working and never had a problem. So at one of the meetings we had the girls all agreed thats how they would like it to be. Regardless if it is their hotel or home. Even if a guy has a million ref's. I handle the girls booking for them. I screen the guys and i do the communication. They set their rates, they set their rules, they set their services and so on. So if a girl tells me she does not want exact room # given out until she is ready, then thats what i will do. I explained to this girl the exact situation and i apologized to her and the client. She laughed and replied "What a jerk" Someone commented something along the lines of how do i know he got the message at 9:31, again i have all the messages. I sent room # and apology at 9:30(the second he sent the message that he was leaving if he did not hear from me soon... a couple seconds is pretty soon to me) He replied at 9:31... so i am assuming he got the message at 9:31, maybe indeed he did get the message at 9:30, could be. The point is, i messed up about the phone thing... yes his couple messages between 9:22 and 9:29 did not get answered right then. Yes there was a delay due to the fact i forgot my phone in the other room. It could happen to anyone who is in this thread judging, and i am sure it has. Maybe u did not forget it, maybe it died, maybe it dropped in water, maybe there was no signal and u did not get the call/text. Regardless... crap happens, i believe i handled it in a professional manor. If he would of given me a chance to do more than apologize before talking crap to me, then i would of been happy to give him a discount for the 7 minutes i was away. No problem. I think that a lot of people are posting their opinions looking from the outside in. But i HONESTLY believe that if any of you were in the situation, you would look at it differently. You book an apt, you have used the company before... You and the booker have somewhat of a friendly relationship, you and she talk several times that day, the next day AND the day of the apt. The day of the apt comes, the booker contacts you to confirm, provides address and re confirms the apt time. You and her chit chat up until after 9pm. You arrive at hotel, send a couple texts before apt time, then AT the appointment time she apologizes for delay, explains what happens and sends room number. You would of had no problem. You would of went to the apt and had a good time. Lets me honest, Ive dealt with clients for some time. I know the concerns and stigmas yall have about nc/ns... i understand. I also know that I would never turn a guy away who shows up right at the appointment time. And i know for a FACT NO guy would turn a girl away who showed up to his place asking for room # RIGHT at the appointment time... even if she hadn't answered your texts for 7m... the fact remains she was there and ready to see you at the apt time. I have my opinions and you have the right to yours. But from my standpoint... having dealt with MANY clients for years... this is the first time anything like this has happened.

As for the comments about texting... everyone has their own choice in doing business how the prefer. That does not mean that because the next person does business one way, that the other is wrong. Of course those who don't wish to partake in booking this way, don't have to. That is the choice they make. I have dealt with many clients who only are able to coordinate by email, yes that can make the situation a little more difficult... but i don't turn someone away because of their preference. Thats silly. And there are also clients who can only do voice calls, and if i am informed of this i do my best to accommodate. Am i going to answer every phone call that comes in, from unknown and new clients? No. In my previous experience, soooo many new clients ask questions i am not comfortable answering until screened. Sooo many times a 5 minute conversation turns into a 30-45m conversation... so i screen guys before i do the phone call thing. And believe it or not, there are a LARGE number of clients who prefer to text, its straight to the point and easy to do while they are at work or with their family. I don't look down my noise at the girls who only do voice calls lol. Each person has a RIGHT to do things they see fit. It is known i have a child, and my child will ALWAYS come first. My child has NEVER effected my capabilities to coordinate an apt. The fact that i left my phone in the other room was MY fault. ALL the girls i book for know i am by my phone the entire length of apt. They check in when all is good and then check out when done. I ALWAYS answer their calls! This thread started out positive with honest, good opinions... now of course it is a judgment zone. So i see no need for it to go on, Thanks to everyone who expressed their opinions without being hateful or nasty. I appreciate it Lessons can be learned without being ugly. I received enough ugliness from the client and NUGLET to last me a lifetime lol.

Nuglet the ONLY response in regards to your posts that i will respond to is the "That shi* aint gonna fly around here" are you serious? What a joke. Oh yes by all means this is the worst experience ever and no one will ever do business with me due to this. The client did not get stood up, the client did not loose any money (His own words) the girl did not perform poorly, so you can sit behind your computer and run your mouth (because thats all you do... do you even see girls? Or is this just you way to be macho, since your not in real life?) Drum up sympathy? For what? I don't see how this post at all merits me any sympathy. I openly admitted making a mistake and asked for peoples opinions on the situation! Just because you are a COLD, MEAN, un sympathetic man does not mean everyone is out looking for sympathy. Anytime anyone mentions anything about their life or situation you ALWAYS pull the "Looking for sympathy roll" When the truth is, i have sympathy for you, your very sick and I'm sure that is very hard to live with, maybe that is why you are so down right mean on every end of the spectrum. So i do feel so sorry for you and your life. But the fact is... everyone knows how i feel about you. YOU have NO room to even SPEAK about being professional OR TCB. YOU are the worst at TCB in the REAL world. I have a LONG list of ladies who agree what you did to me AND them was beyond wrong. I have EVERY HATEFUL AND NASTY email you sent me! You are now going on ignore, because nothing you say matters. I will NOT bring up ANY of the things you did to me AnD others... but look in the mirror and your own life before you even begin to talk.

You do others here a tremendous disservice by never posting that.

As much money as you spend, as much potential business as you represent, the idea that an Agency would ALWAYS make you wait 10-15 minutes is deplorable.....

I would bet a lot of other guys are made to wait longer and probably a few would not wait as long had you ever reported that. Originally Posted by Whispers

Thats not the truth at all. But i do find it funny how if a girl is late, it's the agencies fault. Yes, i do represent the girls... but it's not due to me that they are late. It actually reflects on me in a negative way, which is why i tell some girls that their apt is actually 15m before the actually to insure they ARE on time. Honestly if i book for an amazing girl, who provides a session that clients rave about... i am not going to let her go due to being late 1 or 2 times. Now, i do think that if a girl is late, it should be posted in a review... be honest ALL the way around. I have respect for SL, but why wasnt it posted in the review, yet now... in this thread it is being mentioned? I dont get it? To turn it into a bash agencies thread, maybe... no idea... i have contacted him via pm about this. Its something he and i should discuss in private not for all to see. Because it is FALSE. Havent all his other reviews admitted when a girl does something wrong? So why not the ones for the girls i book for? I know of ONE time an appointment was late to start, but the girl was WITH him... they just were not in the room yet, due to a commotion outside the hotel. So i dont merit that as late.

Reviews do speak for their self... and im not able to see whats BCD, but i know for a fact there is NO pattern of girls being late every time. Where as we have guys late, every day... but thats understandable right? Smh... ok that will be my last post. I cant consume my self with this to much. Again i appreciate the posts, the fact that i dont agree with all of them means nothing, most of the people posting dont use agenices... so many people have a stigma toward them... which i dont understand, but thats another story lol. Hey agencies introduce some hot ladies to the community... right? And after they get the hang of things, most of those ladies go indy... so everyone gets to enjoy them! And most agencies take good care of the girls, i go above and beyond to keep them safe and happy. We are not all bad, just saying.

I was not taking the opportunity to bash Agencies based on Still Looking's statement Marley.

I was bashing Still Looking.

but if you are going to book other ladies, employ other ladies, represent yourself and your girls here as an "agency" in any manner than "the buck stop here" means with you.

Part of the position darlin....

I'm not that good at cleanly quoting pieces of a long post, so I'll just reference what I want to speak to:

...it's the agencies fault...
Yes it is, at least in part. If you're an agency, and you mention letting a girl go at one point in the post, they work for you, so you have to deal with it, as well as the girl. Like I said before, that's just the way it is. You also get some of the credit for the girls who do an outstanding job, so not all bad.

...most of the people posting dont use agenices... so many people have a stigma toward them...
I'm one of them. I'm willing to work with a girl who uses a booker, but it seems hardly anyone gets an agency right, except Gina of PC. Nothing personal, I'm sure you work hard and are motivated to do the right thing, but that's my observation here and elsewhere. It's very difficult being head cat herder.

Just one excuse after another. Same as you always were and obviously will continue to be.
Be careful what you want to bring into the light ~dear~. Seems you are not without complaints. Just read the notes. All you know how to do is blame, whine, restate, and then do it all over again. like this note says, you have a great deal of room for improvement. http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=464171
And the one that says he has NEVER HAD AN ON TIME APPT WITH YOUR AGENCY. We all know your personal problems dear.... well except YOU of course.
You and I know each other well and I've only seen you be professional 1-2 times.. Careful who you attack maam. There's lot of folks that have things to say.. And it's true when you say "we're not all bad". Glad you left room for "some of you are usually bad, and some are a very distant acquainted with the truth".
It seems one of the lessons you have yet to learn is when to cut your loses, quit making excuses, and take responsibility for your poor performance. I'm glad you have me on ignore.. typical avoidance technique you have there. You ignore many things.. I don't need to list them here, it's already known.
Now all you have to do is quit making excuses, do your job right so the ladies don't continue to lose income due to you.

To the OP:

I can see many times in this thread where you have admitted your mistake.
Incase you feel like nobody understands you here, I do.
Just learn what you can from what happened here and keep it pushn'.
This thread won't make or break you babe.
Take care.

I don't know why train wrecks are so fun to watch.

This is one I think Marley should have just let go...It has now been made into a bigger deal than it actually was.