JUST FOR FUN...LET'S RE-VISIT THE LIES OF OBAMA...

"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Odumbo, June 6, 2009.


Report: Seniors to Lose Benefits and Choices as a Result of CMS' Proposed Cuts to Medicare Advantage

On February 21, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), released the 2015 advance notice, which include proposed changes to Medicare Advantage payments for next year. According to a new report from Oliver Wyman, these changes, if finalized, would result in a 5.9 percent cut to Medicare Advantage payments in 2015. This would result in seniors facing benefit reductions and premium increases of $35-$75 per month, or $420-$900 for the year, according to the report.

If the new changes proposed by CMS are implemented, the program would be hit by a double-digit cut over just a two-year period, causing cost increases and benefit reductions for seniors of $65-$145 per month, or as much as $1,740 over two years, according to the Oliver Wyman analysis.

Cuts of this magnitude could result in a “high degree of disruption in the MA market,” including the “potential for plan exits, reductions in service areas, reduced benefits, provider network changes, and MA plan disenrollment,” the report stated.
https://www.ahip.org/Issues/Medicare-Advantage.aspx



"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Odumbo, June 6, 2009.

Seniors in some states will experience premium increases and benefit reductions of $65-75 per month if the new proposed cuts are finalized.



http://www.ahip.org/News/Press-Room/...tm_campaign=MA

Guess this means you and the old gaffer will get a room, and 69 till noon. Talk about a WK. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Unsurprisingly, given your limited intellectual resources for reasoning, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, you "guessed" wrong.

"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Odumbo, June 6, 2009.


Report: Seniors to Lose Benefits and Choices as a Result of CMS' Proposed Cuts to Medicare Advantage

On February 21, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), released the 2015 advance notice, which include proposed changes to Medicare Advantage payments for next year. According to a new report from Oliver Wyman, these changes, if finalized, would result in a 5.9 percent cut to Medicare Advantage payments in 2015. This would result in seniors facing benefit reductions and premium increases of $35-$75 per month, or $420-$900 for the year, according to the report.

If the new changes proposed by CMS are implemented, the program would be hit by a double-digit cut over just a two-year period, causing cost increases and benefit reductions for seniors of $65-$145 per month, or as much as $1,740 over two years, according to the Oliver Wyman analysis.

Cuts of this magnitude could result in a “high degree of disruption in the MA market,” including the “potential for plan exits, reductions in service areas, reduced benefits, provider network changes, and MA plan disenrollment,” the report stated.
https://www.ahip.org/Issues/Medicare-Advantage.aspx



"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Odumbo, June 6, 2009.

Seniors in some states will experience premium increases and benefit reductions of $65-75 per month if the new proposed cuts are finalized.



http://www.ahip.org/News/Press-Room/...tm_campaign=MA




Unsurprisingly, given your limited intellectual resources for reasoning, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, you "guessed" wrong. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Where did you two go then? Will either of you write a review?

More lies to add to the thread; most recently this one coming out of Baghdad Jay............Carney trying to spin his way..it took Judicial Watch 2 years to get the incriminating memos. And only after a judge forced the administration to hand over the specific emails. Now Carney tries to continue cover the lie with more lies....watch.

The data is off. The increases won't be that drastic.

Now Carney tries to continue cover the lie with more lies....watch. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Nothing there!

I figured as much!

FACT JACK!

Who do you think can improve things? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

No one person can heel the divide in this country. That's up to the people. Both parties play us off against each other. They get us all worked up which distracts us from the fact that both parties are screwing us badly.

The data is off. The increases won't be that drastic. Originally Posted by Don't Be Daft!

overall, it'll be negligible. And we Yanks will have what "you" Brits have. Universal health care.

overall, it'll be negligible. And we Yanks will have what "you" Brits have. Universal health care. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The NHS is still better IMHO VS. massively expensive private insurance. In a country like America our NHS would thrive. You have 10x the £ we have. That's the problem in Britain...we need more healthcare funding.

"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Odumbo, June 6, 2009.


Report: Seniors to Lose Benefits and Choices as a Result of CMS' Proposed Cuts to Medicare Advantage

On February 21, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), released the 2015 advance notice, which include proposed changes to Medicare Advantage payments for next year. According to a new report from Oliver Wyman, these changes, if finalized, would result in a 5.9 percent cut to Medicare Advantage payments in 2015. This would result in seniors facing benefit reductions and premium increases of $35-$75 per month, or $420-$900 for the year, according to the report.

If the new changes proposed by CMS are implemented, the program would be hit by a double-digit cut over just a two-year period, causing cost increases and benefit reductions for seniors of $65-$145 per month, or as much as $1,740 over two years, according to the Oliver Wyman analysis.

Cuts of this magnitude could result in a “high degree of disruption in the MA market,” including the “potential for plan exits, reductions in service areas, reduced benefits, provider network changes, and MA plan disenrollment,” the report stated.
https://www.ahip.org/Issues/Medicare-Advantage.aspx



"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold." Odumbo, June 6, 2009.

Seniors in some states will experience premium increases and benefit reductions of $65-75 per month if the new proposed cuts are finalized.



http://www.ahip.org/News/Press-Room/...tm_campaign=MA




Unsurprisingly, given your limited intellectual resources for reasoning, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, you "guessed" wrong. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

IBH we all need health insurance, not just people over 65. I support medicare, Part D and the ACA. If there is not enough money for all three, then get the money from some other department or increase the FICA tax. You are making a big deal about an increase of $65 month when middle class citizens with pre-existing conditions could not buy heath insurance at all in the free market, before the ACA was passed. With the ACA the percentage insured will increase from 83 to 93 percent by 2017.


http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...0Estimates.pdf

More lies to add to the thread; most recently this one coming out of Baghdad Jay............Carney trying to spin his way..it took Judicial Watch 2 years to get the incriminating memos. And only after a judge forced the administration to hand over the specific emails. Now Carney tries to continue cover the lie with more lies....watch.

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

That was a great press conference! I like the part where Carney insists that a memo entitled "Benghazi" was not about Benghazi! George Orwell couldn't have put it better! Carney is a "Clinton" class liar!

Listening to Jay Carney is completely worthless.
Can't really blame him though.
I'm sure he's told what to say.

And the lies just keep on coming................this one is a whopper !!!!!!


At 1:17 in this video, Obama says:

“your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3,000%”

The NHS is still better IMHO VS. massively expensive private insurance. In a country like America our NHS would thrive. You have 10x the £ we have. That's the problem in Britain...we need more healthcare funding. Originally Posted by Don't Be Daft!

That is correct. Not enough productive citizens to pay for those that contribute nothing.

Don't fret. The USA is getting there.

And the lies just keep on coming................this one is a whopper !!!!!!


At 1:17 in this video, Obama says:

“your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3,000%”



Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Yep, it's a whopper all right! I am reposting my original reaction. The only question is - is it a knowing and deliberate lie? Or does it reflect the stupidity and incompetence of an administration that can't even do arithmetic? And where is the mainstream media on this one?


The POTUS doesn't even comprehend basic math! If a cost falls by 100% it drops to zero! You cannot lower a cost by more than 100%! A fifth grader knows that! If you pay $1,000 a month and your premium falls by 90% - you now pay $100 a month. If your premium falls by 100% - you now pay $0 and your healthcare is free. And Odumbo promises a 3,000% fall in premiums! What an idiot! His sheer stupidity is an embarrassment to Columbia and Harvard Law! Even scarier - his own libtard speechwriters and advisers don't catch stuff like this! And neither do the morons in the audience who cheer on his retarded math! Maybe they are thinking "Gee, if a 100% fall in my insurance cost is good, then a 3,000% fall must be 30 times better!" That's how libtards think!

What happens when this clown is negotiating with Putin to reduce nuclear warheads? Does he say "I want at least a 3,000% cut"? He's a laughingstock!

Is this the same idiot who visited all 57 states on the campaign trail?

I feel bad for Sasha and Malia when Odumbo tries to help them do their math homework.

Is there any wonder why this dolt can't pass a budget or negotiate a reduction in the deficit? He can't understand the numbers!

The Emperor has no clothes! The POTUS needs to take REMEDIAL MATH classes ASAP! Or else we need a new POTUS before this fucking dunce takes us all down!

Even Dan Quayle would be a vast improvement. We'd be much safer with a Dan Quayle who can't spell than we are with a Barack Odumbo who can't even do basic math!

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every one of you dumbasses should learn to spell LIE ..


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...could-reduce-/


but lie is a big word waaaaaaaaay over your heads ... that's why you're all dumbasses