The graph is in the link of reply #37. Originally Posted by flghtr65OK - slowest growth in spending - if the chart properly accounts for things which is no given - he still pumped a trillion a year of deficit spending into the economy.
as I was saying... Originally Posted by Yssup RiderDid you have a stroke or something? Your responses are getting lame and I'm starting to feel sorry for you. You need to up your game, say something sharp or smart or something - you have the sound of a loser. Before, at least, you sounded like an angry white man. Now, I think you are sad and dejected, and I feel like I'm kicking a man while he is down. Give me a challenge, old man!!
Why can't the common man improve his own lot in life? Is he incapable on his own? Is he overly dependent on the government? Have pride son - lift yourself up and make something of yourself before the race hustlers and welfare touts turn you into a helpless fucking baby! Originally Posted by Jewish LawyerYou missed the point, The common man CAN. My dad is an immigrant from Europe who came here in 1961, started his own construction company, then went to night school for 23 years to learn english, get his high school diploma, college degree and a masters in engineering whole raising 4 kids & putting them thru private high schools & universities. He then ran a dept. of 600 for a city in the North East, and was an elected official in my hometown for 12 years, so don't give me the pitiful 'have pride' argument - the average immigrant has more guts & pride than you could ever muster. Imagine leaving everything you know for a CHANCE to build a better life for you & your family in a foreign country? I don't know if you could fathom it, since most people who spout the 'dependence on the Gov't' line are those who were born on third and act as if the've hit a triple.
OK - slowest growth in spending - if the chart properly accounts for things which is no given - he still pumped a trillion a year of deficit spending into the economy.
So, his percentage of deficit spending and his percentage contribution to total indebtedness is the highest ever!!!!
Look, I don't hate Obama. But a trillion a year in deficit spending, and not even spending it on reparations, is a sad joke. Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
Did you have a stroke or something? Your responses are getting lame and I'm starting to feel sorry for you. You need to up your game, say something sharp or smart or something - you have the sound of a loser. Before, at least, you sounded like an angry white man. Now, I think you are sad and dejected, and I feel like I'm kicking a man while he is down. Give me a challenge, old man!! Originally Posted by Jewish LawyerYou haven't behaved well at all son. You should also consider changing your handle.
Uh, didn't Obama promise to cut the deficit in half during his first term? How did that work out? And with the National Debt approaching $17 trillion, don't you think something needs to be done? We've been adding the the Debt at a pace of over a trillion dollars a year. Doesn't that bother you a little bit, CBJ7?youre like a fly buzzing around a horses ass .. deficit or national debt bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Oh, that's right. It doesn't. Your an Obamaton, and everything, even Obama's broken promises, are Bush's fault. I wish they'd change the tape in that Great Obamatron in Chicago once in awhile. You are becoming too easy to predict, CBJ7. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
You missed the point, The common man CAN. My dad is an immigrant from Europe who came here in 1961, started his own construction company, then went to night school for 23 years to learn english, get his high school diploma, college degree and a masters in engineering whole raising 4 kids & putting them thru private high schools & universities. He then ran a dept. of 600 for a city in the North East, and was an elected official in my hometown for 12 years, so don't give me the pitiful 'have pride' argument - the average immigrant has more guts & pride than you could ever muster. Imagine leaving everything you know for a CHANCE to build a better life for you & your family in a foreign country? I don't know if you could fathom it, since most people who spout the 'dependence on the Gov't' line are those who were born on third and act as if the've hit a triple.You sound like classic second generation - smoked pot, lived off mom and dad's hard work, and now want the government to bail you out of your mistakes and failures. I've never said there is no place for government - but it doesn't belong everyplace - except in a nation of losers who can't do shit for themselves.
The reason its not as possible these days is that the game is rigged & skewed to the 'haves' more than ever. You say you should do it all on your own? Well how did the 'greatest generation' usher this country into its post WWII dominance? By the GI bill - that's right a government (oooh, bad word) program designed to both reward our GIs and enhance the common good for the populace - today, that would be denounced by the tea baggers ad communist! How can the average kid go to college when their folks are paying a higher tax rates than billionaires while making less and less each year compared to the rate of inflation? Compounding this is the fact that the GOP voted, no filibustered the student loan reform that would've enabled lower & middle-class kids like me (in my day) to go to college and better their lot in life.
The crux of the debate is that some think govt has no place in our lives, while others feel that its responsibility is to make sure that the the laws are not rigged for those who would qualify for entry into the oligarchy. Hey, if someone wants to be a lazy shitbag, then screw them, but to paint those who legitimately need a break as users or takers is completely off-base. Originally Posted by Stonebear
The graph is in the link of reply #37. Originally Posted by flghtr65
OK - slowest growth in spending - if the chart properly accounts for things which is no given... Originally Posted by Jewish LawyerNo, it most certainly is not a given!
You sound like classic second generation - smoked pot, lived off mom and dad's hard work, and now want the government to bail you out of your mistakes and failures. I've never said there is no place for government - but it doesn't belong everyplace - except in a nation of losers who can't do shit for themselves.Your perception couldn't be more off base - never did drugs in my life because of the responsibility I felt to honor my heritage, my name and the opportunity this country gave my folks to come here and contribute! I've lived my life thus far with the immigrant' drive & a puritanical work ethic and hence have never needed a bailout. since your a lawyer, let me ask you, did you pay your way thru college & law school? if so, how? with mommy & daddy's money, or was it thru student loans? if thru loans, then those loans were guaranteed thru some sort of govt agency, werent they? so then how did it feel to suck off of the govt teet? now, because of the retardicans, student loan interest rates are in peril. that may be enough to deter able students to seek higher education - does that make them losers who cant do shite for themselves? Dont think so.
I don't notice where your dad needed too much help from the government - he pulled himself up by the bootstraps, didn't he? Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer