Sarcasm, asswipe.
Of course, if I had to dodge RPGs day in and day out, maybe I'd Be shell shocked like you, cholo! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Good comeback, Dipshit!
Now go blow CBJ7. You 2 make a cute couple!
I don't know enough about what constitutes normal security at an embassy any more to be able to respond to some of what you post. A platoon of Marine Embassy guards with M4's, frags and a SAW or two could have prevented the initial assault from gaining the inside of the embassy, at least as I understand how it occurred. I don't think that constitutes a "large military presence." I thought that was normal. Especially in a place like Libya. Again, maybe I'm wrong, things change..
But, and I hate to be repetitive here, it does seem to me that we are long long past the stage of being worried that we "offend muslims".....we've invaded their countries, killed their people and blown up their shit for a decade.....don't get me wrong, I ain't apologizing for it, in some cases, it was well-deserved. But, the idea that we make decisions about not putting a dozen marine rifleman on the ground in an embassy is because we don't want to offend somebody doesn't wash in my opinion. "Eric Nordstrom, the regional security officer in Libya, told the committee that Deputy Assistant Secretary Charlene Lamb wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi "artificially low." Nordstrom said she generally believed that extra security was unnecessary because there was a residential safe haven to fall back on in an emergency, according to the summary.
She thought the "best course of action was to assign three agents" to the Benghazi post, the summary quoted Nordstrom as saying." http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...ost/?hpt=po_c2
Regarding the muslims hating us....I don't know how to respond to what you post, it just seems silly to take the position that any element of American government is unaware of the level of enmity some elements of Muslim culture hold for us. We know they hate us. The fly planes into our buildings, they cut the heads off of Americans they can get their hands on, they blow up American soldiers, contractors, CIA workers and any other American any chance they get. I think we know there are elements of the muslim population that hate us.
What happened in Benghazi was a tragedy that was most likely the result of a long time-line of mistakes, bad judgment and miscalculations. What happened after Benghazi is probably the same thing. What it wasn't is this absurd supposed scandal that the Republicans have ginned up for solely political purposes. Then why did this administartion make such a concentrated effort to hide behind a "video tape"? Originally Posted by timpage
This is a criticism that deserves consideration....at least the part about the lack of security. I've heard the Dems blame the Repubs because it was a lack of funding,
In testimony Wednesday [10 October 2012] before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was questioned:
“It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb,” said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.). “You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”
Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Lamb responded, “No, sir.” http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...katrina-trinko I've heard the Repubs blame the Dems saying it is entirely the responsibility of the State Department to furnish security for US embassies. It wasn't budgetary constraints that left the ambassador in harm's way. It was the deliberate policy of this administration to not offend Muslims with a U.S. presence and to willfully ignore the signs imminent danger in that region on the anniversary of 9-11. I've heard the Ambassador specifically indicated on more than one occasion that additional security wasn't required and he didn't want it. I've also heard the opposite.
I don't know which is true or who should get the blame. It's obvious that the guilty tried to hide behind the false story of a "video" being repsonsible for the attack. I do know that in that area of the world, we should have had sufficient personnel with sufficient firepower to at least have made it more difficult for the attackers to gain access to the embassy, and in a perfect world, to have been in a position to be able to repel the attack until reinforcements could arrive. Exactly. But, sorry....none of that shit is scandal material. The "video tape" lie is "scandal material". It's just inefficiency, bad decision-making, stupidity or all three.....or maybe just Monday morning quarterbacking by a bunch of people sitting in the cheap seats.
I don't agree with the part of the post about us not having adequate security at the embassy because we're afraid to offend Muslims.According to Nordstrom, the State Department wanted U.S. presence to be "artificially low". That's just a stupid shot at the President making the ridiculous allegation that he's a Muslim, not an American, blah blah blah. Absurd. Regarding offending Muslims, we've been doing a lot more than offending them in the last ten years. We've been killing them and breaking their shit wholesale.....by the tens of thousands. And, we continue to do it to this day. I don't think we're too concerned about offending them....especially the ones we've already greased. None of that mitigates the naivety of this administration's foreign policy. Originally Posted by timpage
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1 What was Stevens doing in Benghazi instead of Tripoli on 911. Because Hildabeast directed him to go there and set up shop so she could put another feather in her political war bonnet, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/test...pcoming-libyan
2 If Benghazi was a CIA op with state dept cover who actually is in charge of security. The State Department is responsible for the security of U.S. Ambassadors, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
"The Secretary of State, and by extension, the Chief of Mission (COM), are responsible for developing and implementing security policies and programs that provide for the protection of all U.S. Government personnel (including accompanying dependents) on official duty abroad."
http://www.state.gov/m/ds/about/overview/c9004.htm
3 Were the terrorists after American lives as you stated in another thread. Fallaciously wrong, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, "We’re here to kill Americans,” "was a statement made by the jihadists as they beat hapless, unarmed Libyans who were, somehow, supposed to have protected the interior of the so-called 'Special Mission Compound'. ” Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2kXHSIbuN
4 were they after the comrades held by the CIA. , "We’re here to kill Americans,” "was a statement made by the jihadists as they beat hapless, unarmed Libyans” http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2kXHSIbuN,
Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
5 Were they after the weapons being sent to Syria by the CIA. "We’re here to kill Americans,” "was a statement made by the jihadists as they beat hapless, unarmed Libyans ” http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2kXHSIbuN, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
6 If aircraft were sent and either strafed or bombed the area who would you blame for lives lost then.
The attackers, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Originally Posted by i'va biggen
What I thought you got nothing but your stupid bullshit no facts just yada yada yada You really are the dumbest mother fucker on the board. Originally Posted by i'va biggenIf you pull that Kool Aid blindfold any tighter, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, that pointed, lib-retarded head of yours will pop. See @: http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1054523112&postcount=80
while you invoked the fictitious handle, "Ekim the Inbred Chimp" in each one. Originally Posted by Yssup RiderEkim the Inbred Chimp earned that befitting epithet, as did you yours, you dumb-fuck golem jackass.
If you pull that Kool Aid blindfold any tighter, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, that pointed, lib-retarded head of yours will pop. See @: http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1054523112&postcount=80
Ekim the Inbred Chimp earned that befitting epithet, as did you yours, you dumb-fuck golem jackass. Originally Posted by I B Hankering
maybe Dallas will pick up Richie, and you'll have someone as classless as you are to cuss with. Originally Posted by CJ7
And you consider yourself the epitome of class in this forum? If you want to see "classless" and "juvenile" (things that you have accused me of), then check out your own posts in the thread entitled "At last. A way to get rid of IB Hankering".
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=901769
In another thread, you asked me if I had the "balls" to answer your question that you posed to me in this thread. I told you your question was stupid. It makes no sense. In another thread, COG has asked you to answer one of his questions. You refused to answer his question and replied that he had to prove his question was "valid". Just another example of your blatant hypocrisy.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1054522410
"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Originally Posted by NiceGuy53