Help the guy out by posting the sources that are accountable and recognized by other academic journals in the field. Originally Posted by Precious_bThey have none. Just unsupported cause-and-effect. A guy is hit by a car and killed. When you look at VAERS data he is Covid vaccinated and dead, ergo the Covid vaccination caused his death according to those who doubt the efficacy of the vaccines.
So it wasn't longer than 3 years?"It is only a matter of time until the obvious has to be recognized."
If you understood the scientific method you'd realize that the assertion that the mRNA kill shot will have no long term impact is a hypothesis.
LOL... it surely must be.... enjoy it until you can't.
ON YOU. That is not what the discussion is about.
I don't have to wait. The excess deaths occurring everywhere the killshot was distributed are already accumulating. This isn't imaginary. We KNOW how many people are dead. The argument is over the cause.... so far everything but the Kill-shot has been proposed.
It is only a matter of time until the obvious has to be recognized.
So if it's NOT the kill shot what has caused 550K excess deaths in the US since APR of 2021? Global warming?
LOL...
And for the fools saying this is religion, well I advise you to start reading about the scientific method. You will not that SKEPTICISM is part of the scientific method. Faith in what you're told by the experts isn't.
You follow your science... I'll follow the math. It never lies. Not so you're "experts" - because I'm old enough to remember when it stopped you from getting and spreading COVID... but then the science changed and that turned out to not be true.
now all you have is it wasn't worse than it would have been. HAH... show the math on that assertion! You cannot prove a counterfactual, but you go with it... Originally Posted by texassapper
Speed, though you mean well, you can’t educate the uneducateable. Things like facts, logic and common sense will be refuted by info from the least reputable internet sources. It’s all they have. Sadly, it’s all they know.Unfortunately you are correct.
In the words of Jonathon Swift and Neil deGrasse Tyson “ You can’t use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn’t use reason to get into.” Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Speed, though you mean well, you can’t educate the uneducateable. Things like facts, logic and common sense will be refuted by info from the least reputable internet sources. It’s all they have. Sadly, it’s all they know.
In the words of Jonathon Swift and Neil deGrasse Tyson “ You can’t use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn’t use reason to get into.” Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Your math proves what you want it to prove. No facts behind the math. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXNo. It shows there are ~550K people who mathematically should be alive but aren't. We know historically, the percentage of people that die every day from medical causes... for some strange reasons, deaths with cancer, blood, respitory disease are going through the roof in comparison to historical norms. Those curves started diverging in Mar/Apr 2021.
Over 40,000 people just died in Turkey. Probably many vaccinated. Your MATH will attribute those deaths to Covid vaccination. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXWell they aren't in the US so I doubt the CDC will add them to their death statistics... but nice misdirection telling me what I will do.
I provided you a link that totally refutes your "math" yet you choose to ignore it and assume that the deaths were due to the vaccines. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXYour link does not explain why there are 550,000 excess deaths being reported by the CDC.
Take a course in statistics and understand cause-and-effect then get back to me with your inane comments. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXLOL... that's too funny. You should tell the CDC how to assign those 550K excess deaths.
If I was bored and had time I'd find the post about how EVERYONE who had the vax was going to die and their bodies would have to be burned within two years of the initial jab. But then fools would just say they didn't mean mean the first two years literally...it's the two years after the two years that it didn't happen. You can't educate anyone unwilling to learn, regardless of topic. Originally Posted by 69in2it69
And you have none of them. You fall for every sales job the liars in the Democratic party, which is run by those believing Marxism is a good economic policy.At least you’re entertaining. Not impressively smart at all though (not even unimpressively to be honest. I don’t expect you to rely on things like facts or knowledge, just silly rantings from some dude that I picture is a hick or rube who for the first time in his life has an opportunity to use one of things called a Computer. You driving into town to use the interwebs?
Everyday I see you make posts that show a total lack of common sense or basic knowledge. Originally Posted by farmstud60
The problem with trying to talk about Covid-19 is that it is a very unusual virus that is behaving quite differently than those in the past. Originally Posted by farmstud60How so? How did this virus differ from other viruses?
The mRna vaccines are a different process that they were hoping would be able to protect people as the virus changed variants, but the data shows that hasn't happened. Originally Posted by farmstud60Why was mRNA therapy expected to protect against all variants? WHo made that assertion?
Even at the very start is was mentioned that this virus was in the same family as the common cold and flu, and that mutations were highly likely. Originally Posted by farmstud60So why was the response so different from other cold viruses?
It is a lot different than measles, whooping cough, small pox, chicken pox, mumps that don't mutate as frequently so getting once vaccine that would last for a long time was not very likely to start with. Originally Posted by farmstud60Yet, you assert that this was claimed. Who claimed that and why?
The other issue has been the wide variety of symptoms and severity of people getting the virus. Many were carriers but never presented any symptoms. Others died, or had very sever cases. Originally Posted by farmstud60Or does that have to do with the treatment protocol? Why were items like Ivermectin downplayed or dismissed despite reams of daata showing its efficacy? What would it mean if ivermectin WAS an effective prophylactic to the EUA and the mandates?
The issue with heart issues in young people after than vaccine does seem to be a problem, and with young people under 25 or 30 seldom getting very sick makes the risk of getting the vaccine with some problems an issue. Originally Posted by farmstud60Then why mandate a treatment to a portion of the population that isn't at risk? Who made money from that mandate?
Doesn't mean it is a large percentage getting severe reactions to the vaccine, but with a smaller percentage getting a severe case of Covid it makes the risk of getting the vaccine greater than not getting the vaccine. Originally Posted by farmstud60After how many deaths have other vaccine trials been halted? Why was the definition of vaccine changed in 2020 by the CDC? What from a science perspective chnged that we had to include mRNA therapies which had not been classified as a vaccine before?
There have been exaggerations on every side of the Covid argument, and the number one problem is that we really don't know how many people actually got Covid but never had any symptoms and never tested for Covid. Originally Posted by farmstud60That being the case, does a mandate make any sense?
Also the Covid tests were not 100% accurate Originally Posted by farmstud60Do you know what the PCR tests were testing for? Hint it's not COVID...
Problem is there is no accurate data available. Those that claim there is have no clue about statistics. Originally Posted by farmstud60Do you think that's on purpose or just a big coinkiedink? Why did the powers that be care about cases and not deaths?