Too many married women use sex for power and manipulation. Then they subscribe to a handbook of x minutes of foreplay, x minutes of this and that and then they bitch and moan if you want more. A woman should be flattered that her man wants her. Originally Posted by FunMondayYep, this is it. First, let me say that is an excellent thread. It actually meets the original mission of this baorad and sparked an interesting dialogue.
My post is long and I apologize.+1 Very well said.
When I was married the first time(young and dumb), he cheated on me with a coworker who was known to cheat on her s/o and get preggo with the new guy's baby. Was he getting it at home? Yes. I initiated a lot of times and nothing was taboo. Do I think it was because he was curious? Yes, because I was his first. Now he has married her, has a kid with her, and she cheats on him regularly(he said she had changed, he was in love and things would be different.
My second marriage, same deal. I was his first(he was 30). Virgin magnet I guess. He got it when he wanted how we wanted and I would initiate. I couldn't compete with his porn addiction. And felt like that his mistress. I realize, the porn is all he had for so long.
****WHY?****All that being said. It hurt me that they would cheat on me because I was a loving wife, great homemaker and genuinely excited for our sex life. It starts out as being hurt by the man we love and do for what we are supposed to do as women. Then the anger hits because they made us hurt. The made us feel stupid and used. We get mad because they made us a stereotypical weak woman. And we are bittered by the realization that we weren't good enough.
For the women who don't put out and their men step out: I can see why a man would. But in that, why is she not putting out? Is she hormonal and not feeling it? Is the desire gone because he has let himself go a little bit? Too tired from being a houswife and mom and/or career? Does she not feel appreciated or sexy because she has packed on some pounds? Does she make you feel that way? Do you as man make your woman the envy of other women by your compliments, affections and attention? Does she do the same for you?
It is a two-way street built on communication and trust. It is nurtured by continuation of affection and desire. It is driven by self-image.
I am fortunate to have found my soul mate. We are both promiscuous and realize the need in each other to seek out some strange, as it usually turns us on to hear about each other's encounter. And we know before hand. He is a hobbyist as well. Originally Posted by GypsyHeart
Its complicated. I'll try and explain it the best I can with a few words as possible.That is a pretty smart answer.
Basically, married women begin to feel put out or that they have sacrificed their life and goals for the family. They start to resent their husband because they think he is living his life goals and she is a mere stepping stone to his achievements in life. So she eventually doesn't feel like giving any "more" of herself because she thinks she has given enough already.
I'm NOT saying it's right. And she probably knows her perceptions are jaded but then that creates guilt and a vicious inner cycle ensues where you ain't getting shit from her and she'll be goddamned if you get it from anywhere else because if she has to sacrifice herself so much (again, this is perceived and part of the cycle) then dammit so should you.
This doesn't describe every situation but I'm guessing it describes most of them.
Hope that helps.
Best course of action is to hobby as much as you need to to keep your marriage happy and respect your family enough to keep it totally hidden. You can't fix her and she can't fix you. Best to just roll with it especially if you have kids. Divorce just isn't worth it. There are exceptions but only in extreme situations. Originally Posted by THN
I think men sacrifice much more than women in that respect. He is thinking I could be out getting laid right now but No Im stuck here with the wife and kids and all they do is take take take. Dad I need this or Honey do this or you cant buy that we need this. Many guys work at jobs for years that they hate to keep food on the table while she works at a low paying job or no job so she can take care of the kids and hang out with her friends. At the end of the day most guys are willing to do all that and all they want is their wives to want them for their wives to give them the pse and at least act like they like sucking your dick. I know guys that have been married 15 or 20 years and their wives have never given them a blow job. One friend told me his wife calls him a pervert if he ask for doggie style. Originally Posted by mikecrossTo caveat off this post, there is NO WORSE HELL in life than a mid-management level job that you can't get out of. This is the guy/woman who never gets that corner office, never makes it to high level executive that gets the cool parking spot. You gotta deal with bullshit from upper management, you gotta deal with bullshit from a guy/gal you KNOW took shortcuts to get a spot with more authority (and higher pay) than you. Everything's YOUR fault in every meeting. You work more hours than the people ABOVE and BELOW you. You gotta deal with the idiots that you supervise, who want to get paid for not coming to work, who's kids are always sick and they need to miss work to tend to, and they want to leave early every payday. You're the guy that has to go tell 'Fred' that we need him to work on Saturday (Fred goes APESHIT about working on Saturday).