Is real world civi sex better than Hobby Sex

Truthfully guys...
Anyone ever been in LOVE with a gal that you had to WORK to get in her panties?
Months or even years of waiting, those passionate kisses, the slow moving hands, just HOPING to get to the next base...
She finally says "yes" and you slide your pecker into her??? THAT'S not one of the best feelings in the world??? You get THAT with a provider???

IMHO, that's what the question is asking...
If it's a straight up "who FUCKS better" question, then it's a dumb question!!!

^^^^^ Awww ....the memory of the chair against the window......that hotel room will NEVER be the same......muah!!! Originally Posted by SNL9933

Are you back in Dallas?

Yes. And that is why true love is not unconditional. Originally Posted by Iam45

Not true. I disagree.

No one can understand true unconditional love unless they have themselves felt and experienced it. The willingness to die for another human being...not wanting anything in return but observing the happyness of the object of your love. This is Just the tip of the iceberg.

True uncoditional love exists.

Post hysterectomy the hobby is the only thing between me and my right hand.

I miss the love-sex combo, I have to be very careful not to kid myself that a provider is anything besides sex.

Truthfully guys...
Anyone ever been in LOVE with a gal that you had to WORK to get in her panties?
Months or even years of waiting, those passionate kisses, the slow moving hands, just HOPING to get to the next base...
She finally says "yes" and you slide your pecker into her??? THAT'S not one of the best feelings in the world??? You get THAT with a provider???

IMHO, that's what the question is asking...
If it's a straight up "who FUCKS better" question, then it's a dumb question!!! Originally Posted by Tetas

Sure! Years ago, and that was always great. Even to this day, I fuck civi's on occasion (most recently my wife's good friend, yeah I'm an asshole, and I need to stop that shit), but the providers I see fuck way better. WAY better. Emotion doesn't factor into it for me at all.

Not true. I disagree.

No one can understand true unconditional love unless they have themselves felt and experienced it. The willingness to die for another human being...not wanting anything in return but observing the happyness of the object of your love. This is Just the tip of the iceberg.

True uncoditional love exists. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

I had this, with a prior client. I totally fell for a client. Yes, he was married, but we totally had a full blown relationship. Saw each other everyday. He was my "alarm cock". I would meet him at the gym after school just to say hello. He did things to me no client ever could. I would have done anything for that man.

When the wife found out and he chose her over me, it nearly broke me.
It put me into a horrible tailspin.
It took me a long time to recover, and I had to focus on my children and on school to get my shit back together.

Love and "civie" sex can be maddening when combined. When you are absolutely head over heals in love.

I'd much rather take another chance on just liking someone a lot then being totally in love again, then going through that shit again. Unless he is actually single. That was the most exciting and thrilling time of my life (better than my marriage), and then the most depressing time of my life(worse than my divorce), in two years time.

I had this, with a prior client. I totally fell for a client. Yes, he was married, but we totally had a full blown relationship. Saw each other everyday. He was my "alarm cock". I would meet him at the gym after school just to say hello. He did things to me no client ever could. I would have done anything for that man.

When the wife found out and he chose her over me, it nearly broke me.
It put me into a horrible tailspin.
It took me a long time to recover, and I had to focus on my children and on school to get my shit back together.

Love and "civie" sex can be maddening when combined. When you are absolutely head over heals in love.

I'd much rather take another chance on just liking someone a lot then being totally in love again, then going through that shit again. Unless he is actually single. That was the most exciting and thrilling time of my life (better than my marriage), and then the most depressing time of my life(worse than my divorce), in two years time. Originally Posted by tntangie

Im sorry you went thru this. Must havebeen crushing.

Im lucky that the person i completely fell in love for still with me. Im still madly in love with her, would die for her. She is in my opinion the most incredible human being I ever met. She is an angel that came to this world to protect me.

Sex with her is the best I ever experienced. When it comes to "activities" ... There are things i did with her i didnt do with providers.

Im sorry you went thru this. Must havebeen crushing.

Im lucky that the person i completely fell in love for still with me. Im still madly in love with her, would die for her. She is in my opinion the most incredible human being I ever met. She is an angel that came to this world to protect me.

Sex with her is the best I ever experienced. When it comes to "activities" ... There are things i did with her i didnt do with providers. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

+1

Aww, thanks guys.

I learned a lot about myself after that.
And damn if I hadn't gotten married before that. I thought I knew what love and being in love was!

I even had children with a man I was totally in love with, but I wasn't completely loved back in return. (Which I didn't realize until I got older)

When it's complete passion in return, when you have all that for each other and are crazy about each other, it's a completely different beast.

However, I would not be surprised one bit if he is back out here hobbying. I hope he's having a good time. Sincerely. Either that, or she has fallen back into the routine of not giving him any - or I scared her enough that he was going to leave that she decided to keep on giving it up. It's been quite sometime, so my bet is on, she's gotten tired and gone back to being "married".

Not true. I disagree.

No one can understand true unconditional love unless they have themselves felt and experienced it. The willingness to die for another human being...not wanting anything in return but observing the happyness of the object of your love. This is Just the tip of the iceberg.

True uncoditional love exists. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Despite all that one does what if the other person is not happy? Would the one still love her?

Not true. I disagree.

No one can understand true unconditional love unless they have themselves felt and experienced it. The willingness to die for another human being...not wanting anything in return but observing the happyness of the object of your love. This is Just the tip of the iceberg.

True uncoditional love exists. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Yes, and it's called a "Parent"

You sound like a good person Angie, don't beat yourself up, it's happened to everyone.

Sex can be disassociated from love. Love cannot be disassociated from sex.

The best way I can define love is.. . The total willingness to be taken from granted and actually like that it makes the object of your love happy. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Not true. I disagree.

No one can understand true unconditional love unless they have themselves felt and experienced it. The willingness to die for another human being...not wanting anything in return but observing the happiness of the object of your love. This is Just the tip of the iceberg.

True uncoditional love exists. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Despite all that one does, what if the other person is not happy? Would the one still love her? Originally Posted by Iam45

while one can still love another person despite them not returning the love or being happy in the relationship (*), one has to decide if they can continuing living like that.
either stay w/ it, do something to change it up, or leave.

you can still love a person after a relationship ends.



(*) did anyone see the episodes of Doc Martin on Ch 13 the other night?
his wife gets more and more frustrated w/ him. then when going after him to get him to discuss the situation, she's hit by a car - serious injuries [concussion, broken shoulder, etc.]. she decides she needs space and plans to go to spain w/ her sister or mother. when Doc finds out she has a SERIOUS life threatening complication in one of her brain vessels, he goes and gets her off the plane and performs the surgery, saving her life. at the end of the episode, she tells him thank you for what you did.
he responds ... "you're my patient and you're my wife."

the character definitely loves her, but is written in such a way as that he just is not fully able to express it [as well as treat others in a respectful manner].
noticed he didnt say "you're my wife and you're my patient" or "you're my wife and most importantly you're my patient."

love is fickle and layered w/ so much other stuff that it's often difficult to know how "true" it is.

but "love is all we need"

For me, sex in my personal life is much better. I have been polyamorous for four years now. I was recently married to a woman who is a professional adult entertainer. She is a webcam performer, fetish model, and dancer. Both of us date separately as well as share some girls in common. While the variety is great, the practice and intimacy we experience can't be replicated in hobby encounter. We know things about each other's bodies and preferences that only come from experience. Plus, we'll do things for each other that would be difficult to get a provider to do. Our extracurricular sex only enhances what we do at home. I don't necessarily recommend this type of relationship for everybody, but it works for us. Our sexuality is a high priority.

Does it make me shallow that I could care less if a chick is "fuckin me for ME..."? Who really gives a shit? It just seems needy to me.

"Oh, I need someone to love me so I can bust the best nut possible and feel good about myself." GTFO.