- 1blackman1
- 04-21-2023, 10:37 AM
Clearly your comprehension is lacking.
- Salty Again
- 04-21-2023, 04:32 PM
Clearly your comprehension is lacking. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
... Lemme remind YOU and the other lads ONCE AGAIN
that this tread concerns the Biden Family and
not Trump.
Please stay on-topic.
#### Salty
- biomed1
- 04-21-2023, 09:39 PM
#6 - Respect the topics presented by those who start a thread. Attempts to derail a thread or change it's direction is referred to as thread hijack and will be discouraged. Attempts to guide a thread in the right direction are appreciated, while responses to posts which hijack a thread are not.
- ManSlut
- 04-22-2023, 02:36 AM
... Some o' me Political "insiders" are reporting thatAre you and Mike Lindell ‘pillow talking’ again Salty after carnal knowledging? Or you and Guliani?
a few of the Biden family members ARE beginning to
co-operate with the Biden Investigations. ...
And China has started to provide financial data.
#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
The bottom line is no matter what, nothing will be proven or done about it for years.
- lustylad
- 04-22-2023, 11:13 AM
well there is direct and eyewitness evidence of at least two people perhaps more
there is biden using and leveraging united states appropriated funds with evidence that was in service of self
there is the laptop evidence
there is bank record evidence
there is evidence of claims by hunter himself of paying his father exorbitant rent, paying his father's expenses and reserving amounts for the big guy
there is evidence in the fact hunter went along on official trips, all coinciding with the receipt of millions of dollars from foreign sources for doing nothing
there is evidence indicating hunter's access to and use of top secret documents, kept illegally by his father, to create an insightfulness in at least one of hunter's emails unseen in and unlike his "normal" emails as a way to "earn" and keep the millions flowing
and then there is indirect and circumstantial evidence such as biden's actions in ukraine, photos and visitation records and conflicting statements
and of course, there is character evidence of both of them
probably more evidence to be found by those who do internet searches to compile a more exhaustive evidence list Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
+1
So in other words, nothing. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
LOL!
It's impossible to carry on intelligent discourse with people who keep demanding FACTS and EVIDENCE - yet when you spoon it out and dump the stinky turds right under their noses, their olfactory receptors suddenly stop working!!
- lustylad
- 04-22-2023, 11:24 AM
Arguments about China, China, China can be made, but the people around Biden surely had a lot of lucrative and corrupt interactions with Chinese officials and lied about them, rather than just coming clean and saying it wasn’t what it looked like. But be as it may, I suspect he was not completely clueless regarding the actions of those around him... Originally Posted by 1blackman1Blimey!
Now you're starting to make a little sense, 1b1... keep it up and you may even get to the point where you can put the Biden family crime spree in proper perspective!
- Salty Again
- 04-22-2023, 12:25 PM
... The TRUTH is coming out.
The Republicans there leading the House of Congress DID promise
to bring proper oversight AND investigations.
... And THAT'S surely What we're getting... Each and every day.
#### Salty
The Republicans there leading the House of Congress DID promise
to bring proper oversight AND investigations.
... And THAT'S surely What we're getting... Each and every day.
#### Salty
- trey32
- 04-22-2023, 01:08 PM
Farmstud60 gets his facts from Fox lol
- Salty Again
- 04-22-2023, 01:18 PM
Are you and Mike Lindell ‘pillow talking’ again Salty after carnal knowledging? Or you and Guliani?... I don't reckon Lindell can help YOU with your
The bottom line is no matter what, nothing will be proven or done about it for years. Originally Posted by ManSlut
pillow problem, mate... You need a Dentist.
To help you stop biting the pillow.
... And WHY will it take "years" for something to
be done? ... Things ARE being proven.
#### Salty
- farmstud60
- 04-22-2023, 04:04 PM
Farmstud60 gets his facts from Fox lol Originally Posted by trey32
Most of the facts are common sense and understanding the salesman lies. CNN great at total misinformation.
- 1blackman1
- 04-22-2023, 05:11 PM
Again, nothing. Just innuendo. No one, even the republican congress has put forth any evidence. Because they don’t have it. I’ll keep waiting and asking.
Like I said before. Someone telling Person A that they know you and can get you on board to help them and that Person A should pay you to be the intermediary to help them, is a far cry from you actually being involved.
I know the governor, mayor and several department secretaries and can hang out with them pretty much anytime I want. Someone could easily believe that I can help their projects get a hand up. I could likely sell that easily. The truth is however none of them would give someone a contract because I ask. That doesn’t mean I couldn’t get some suckers to pay me because I sell that idea.
When an actual connection to Joe Biden is established let me know.
Like I said before. Someone telling Person A that they know you and can get you on board to help them and that Person A should pay you to be the intermediary to help them, is a far cry from you actually being involved.
I know the governor, mayor and several department secretaries and can hang out with them pretty much anytime I want. Someone could easily believe that I can help their projects get a hand up. I could likely sell that easily. The truth is however none of them would give someone a contract because I ask. That doesn’t mean I couldn’t get some suckers to pay me because I sell that idea.
When an actual connection to Joe Biden is established let me know.
- lustylad
- 04-22-2023, 05:50 PM
That doesn’t mean I couldn’t get some suckers to pay me because I sell that idea.... Originally Posted by 1blackman1Oh, dear! Are you calling those five senior CCP intelligence loyalists who pumped at least $31 million into the Biden family crime syndicate SUCKERS??
They're not going to like that!
- lustylad
- 04-22-2023, 06:25 PM
So... is anyone (other than Blackman) curious to learn more about that picture in my last post? Peter Schweizer has been following the money for a while. Here are some of the sordid details of what he already uncovered more than a year ago.
Now, thanks to the GOP wresting control of the House, we can finally investigate those FACTS and EVIDENCE more fully and follow up accordingly!
Chinese elite have paid some $31 million to Hunter and the Bidens
By Peter Schweizer
January 27, 2022 8:04pm
For those wondering why Joe Biden is soft on China, consider this never-before-reported revelation: The Biden family has done five deals in China totaling some $31 million arranged by individuals with direct ties to Chinese intelligence — some reaching the very top of China’s spy agency.
Indeed, every known deal that the Biden family enjoyed with Beijing was reached courtesy of individuals with spy ties. And Joe Biden personally benefited from his family’s foreign deals.
What are these deals? And who are the individuals who made them happen for the Bidens?
Here, then, are a few key facts about the Biden family’s $5 million-plus deals with individuals in bed with Chinese intelligence.
DEAL #1: BOHAI HARVEST RST
Payout: estimated $20 million
In 2018, I was the first to report on Hunter Biden’s involvement with a Chinese investment fund called Bohai Harvest RST (BHR). Hunter even introduced his dad to a company executive in December 2013 when father and son flew to Beijing on Air Force Two.
In October 2019, Hunter Biden’s lawyer George Mesires said Hunter would be resigning from the BHR board, without receiving any return on his investment or shareholder distributions.
What Team Biden failed to address was the fact that Hunter Biden still owned a stake in the investment fund, said to be 10%.
When I first reported on Hunter Biden’s China ties in 2018, Team Biden denied that they existed. Then they absurdly claimed that his stake in the BHR investment fund was only $420,000.
Steven Kaplan, who conducts research on issues in private equity, venture capital, entrepreneurial finance, corporate governance and corporate finance at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, said a private equity fund with $2 billion under management will typically generate fees over its life of hundreds of millions of dollars.
“It is difficult to imagine, if not incomprehensible, that a 10% stake in those economics is worth only $420K,” Kaplan said via email. “The distinction they appear to be making is they capitalized the management company with $4.2M even if the fund manages $2B. The value of that management company is likely far in excess of $4.2M if they are managing $2B.”
Kaplan pointed to two large publicly traded private equity firms for reference, both of which have a market value of about 10% of the assets under their management. Using that as a rough guide, that would put the value of Hunter Biden’s share closer to $20 million, he said.
Two months ago, Hunter Biden’s lawyer said he sold his equity stake. They have not disclosed how much he made.
But courtesy of the Hunter Biden emails on his abandoned laptop, we now know two of the key individuals who made that deal happen. And at the time, they had close ties to the very top of the Chinese intelligence apparatus.
A Chinese tycoon named Che Feng, aka “The Super Chairman,” played a key role in getting the deal going by introducing Hunter and his partners to large Chinese state-backed investment funds. Hunter saw a big payday. As he wrote in one email to business partner Devon Archer, “I don’t believe in lottery tickets anymore, but I do believe in the super chairman ... I think the sky’s the limit.”
Who exactly is Che Feng?
At one time, he was business partners with the then-vice minister for state security in China, which is China’s KGB.
This man was reportedly the director of the ministry’s No. 8 Bureau, which targeted foreigners with its intelligence apparatus — including reporters, diplomats and businessmen. It was also reported that he oversaw intelligence operations for North America.
Another key figure in putting this investment deal together was Zhao Xuejun (a k a Henry Zhao) of Harvest Fund Management. Zhao is a Communist Party official. (“The mission of our Party is to bring happiness to people, and to revive the nation for people,” he has said.)
But more troubling — Zhao was at that time business partners with Jia Liqing, the daughter of the former minister of state security, Jia Chunwang.
In short, he was in charge of espionage, domestic and overseas intelligence work for China. Jia was famous during his tenure for developing China’s “deep water fish” (Chendi yü) strategy of developing thousands of special agents on foreign soil.
Zhao was also a key figure for Biden prospects in China. His fund participated in BHR, where Hunter Biden received a board seat. The business that he co-founded with Jia Liqing, Harvest Global Investments, also figures in Deal #2.
DEAL #2: BURNHAM ASSET MANAGEMENT
Payout: $5 million
Hunter Biden had another company called Burnham Asset Management. According to court documents filed by disgruntled investors, Harvest Global wired Burnham $5 million.
The purpose of this payment is unclear, but it may have been intended as an investment in Hunter’s business.
According to emails obtained from Hunter Biden’s laptop, Zhao may have sent other money, too.
“Henry remains committed to also making something work with myself and Hunter outside of this Burnham matter as mentioned before,” business partner James Bulger wrote. “He has a few interesting ideas.”
Zhao had suggested to Hunter and his business partners that he would structure a deal they estimated would be “putting money directly into our pockets.”
DEAL #3: HUNTER TEAMS UP WITH CHINA’S ‘DRAGON HEAD’
Payout: $188,000+
Hunter Biden had co-founded a firm called Rosemont Realty, and as early as 2011, he was looking for a Chinese buyer.
Rosemont Realty owns commercial buildings around the United States.
He had little luck initially, but then he and his partners received an “unsolicited offer” from a Hong Kong-based firm called Gemini Investments to buy his firm.
What is Gemini? The company is controlled by something then called Sino-Ocean Land, which was also chaired by the head of China Ocean Shipping Corporation (COSCO).
Japanese government agencies report that “Chinese intelligence services are closely linked” to COSCO. Some scholars in the West refer to COSCO as the “fifth arm of the Chinese Navy.”
For his part, President Xi Jinping has called the company “the dragon’s head for China” because of its strategic activities in Europe.
Hunter worked even more closely with COSCO in an attempt to buy the Greek national railway.
How much has Hunter Biden made from the Chinese deal that took over Rosemont Realty? It is impossible to know. But emails reveal at least one payment of approximately $188,000 from Rosemont Realty to Hunter Biden.
He also retained his stake in the company after the Chinese leadership took over.
DEAL #4: CEFC CHINA ENERGY
Payout: $6 million
Ye Jianming, a wealthy Chinese businessman and the head of CEFC China Energy, provided $6 million to the Biden family, according to a Senate investigation into Hunter’s activities.
In early 2017, one month after his father left office as vice president, Hunter Biden worked for Ye as a counselor and adviser, and Joe Biden’s brother James received some of the funds that Ye transferred to Hunter.
Five million came in the form of a forgivable, interest-free loan. Ethically, a loan is worse than a cash gift for a politician’s family, because the loan giver can always demand their money back if the recipient of the funds is not doing as they like.
Who exactly is Ye?
Ye Jianming once served in a leadership position within the China Association for International Friendly Contact (CAIFC), which is funded directly by Chinese military intelligence.
CEFC’s corporate documents confirm its self-perceived role in advancing China’s national energy strategy. Ye Jianming’s close relationship with both the Chinese military intelligence apparatus and the government cannot be overstated.
DEAL #5: CEFC’s PATRICK HO
Payout: $1 million
Hunter Biden received even more money in his relationship with CEFC and Ye Jianming.
In 2017, one of Ye Jianming’s “top lieutenants,” Patrick Ho, was arrested on bribery charges by the FBI for offering money to African officials in exchange for energy deals.
He immediately called James Biden, Joe Biden’s brother, looking for Hunter Biden.
Hunter was soon hired by CEFC to be Patrick Ho’s defense attorney despite his little experience in criminal defense. CEFC paid Hunter a $1 million fee. Hunter referred to Patrick Ho as “the f–ing spy chief of China,” according to leaked audio obtained by RealClearPolitics.
These deals are disturbing enough, and are exacerbated by the fact that every one of them was made possible by an individual with ties that sometimes went to the highest levels of Chinese intelligence.
But there is also the curious fact that in 2014, Hunter Biden took the unusual step of telling the Secret Service that he did not want protection when he traveled overseas. The request happened shortly after he began securing deals in Beijing.
Money that Hunter Biden received from his overseas deals flowed to other members of the Biden family.
Joe Biden’s brother James received over $1 million originating from the spy-connected Ye, according to a US Senate investigation.
In a text to his daughter, Hunter Biden insinuated that he was giving half his salary to “pop.” This is more than hyperbole.
Email records back him up to the extent that they show Hunter’s businesses paying some of his father’s bills while he was vice president of the United States. This means that Joe Biden benefited from these financial deals that happened courtesy of executives linked to Chinese spies.
Americans deserve answers as to why the Bidens received some $31 million and what promises or influence it bought. If Washington is to restore what’s left of its credibility, Congress must launch wide-ranging and serious investigations into the Biden family’s China cash haul and the resultant national security implications.
Peter Schweizer is the author of the new book “Red-Handed: How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win.”
https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/chines...nd-the-bidens/
Now, thanks to the GOP wresting control of the House, we can finally investigate those FACTS and EVIDENCE more fully and follow up accordingly!
Chinese elite have paid some $31 million to Hunter and the Bidens
By Peter Schweizer
January 27, 2022 8:04pm
For those wondering why Joe Biden is soft on China, consider this never-before-reported revelation: The Biden family has done five deals in China totaling some $31 million arranged by individuals with direct ties to Chinese intelligence — some reaching the very top of China’s spy agency.
Indeed, every known deal that the Biden family enjoyed with Beijing was reached courtesy of individuals with spy ties. And Joe Biden personally benefited from his family’s foreign deals.
What are these deals? And who are the individuals who made them happen for the Bidens?
Here, then, are a few key facts about the Biden family’s $5 million-plus deals with individuals in bed with Chinese intelligence.
DEAL #1: BOHAI HARVEST RST
Payout: estimated $20 million
In 2018, I was the first to report on Hunter Biden’s involvement with a Chinese investment fund called Bohai Harvest RST (BHR). Hunter even introduced his dad to a company executive in December 2013 when father and son flew to Beijing on Air Force Two.
In October 2019, Hunter Biden’s lawyer George Mesires said Hunter would be resigning from the BHR board, without receiving any return on his investment or shareholder distributions.
What Team Biden failed to address was the fact that Hunter Biden still owned a stake in the investment fund, said to be 10%.
When I first reported on Hunter Biden’s China ties in 2018, Team Biden denied that they existed. Then they absurdly claimed that his stake in the BHR investment fund was only $420,000.
Steven Kaplan, who conducts research on issues in private equity, venture capital, entrepreneurial finance, corporate governance and corporate finance at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, said a private equity fund with $2 billion under management will typically generate fees over its life of hundreds of millions of dollars.
“It is difficult to imagine, if not incomprehensible, that a 10% stake in those economics is worth only $420K,” Kaplan said via email. “The distinction they appear to be making is they capitalized the management company with $4.2M even if the fund manages $2B. The value of that management company is likely far in excess of $4.2M if they are managing $2B.”
Kaplan pointed to two large publicly traded private equity firms for reference, both of which have a market value of about 10% of the assets under their management. Using that as a rough guide, that would put the value of Hunter Biden’s share closer to $20 million, he said.
Two months ago, Hunter Biden’s lawyer said he sold his equity stake. They have not disclosed how much he made.
But courtesy of the Hunter Biden emails on his abandoned laptop, we now know two of the key individuals who made that deal happen. And at the time, they had close ties to the very top of the Chinese intelligence apparatus.
A Chinese tycoon named Che Feng, aka “The Super Chairman,” played a key role in getting the deal going by introducing Hunter and his partners to large Chinese state-backed investment funds. Hunter saw a big payday. As he wrote in one email to business partner Devon Archer, “I don’t believe in lottery tickets anymore, but I do believe in the super chairman ... I think the sky’s the limit.”
Who exactly is Che Feng?
At one time, he was business partners with the then-vice minister for state security in China, which is China’s KGB.
This man was reportedly the director of the ministry’s No. 8 Bureau, which targeted foreigners with its intelligence apparatus — including reporters, diplomats and businessmen. It was also reported that he oversaw intelligence operations for North America.
Another key figure in putting this investment deal together was Zhao Xuejun (a k a Henry Zhao) of Harvest Fund Management. Zhao is a Communist Party official. (“The mission of our Party is to bring happiness to people, and to revive the nation for people,” he has said.)
But more troubling — Zhao was at that time business partners with Jia Liqing, the daughter of the former minister of state security, Jia Chunwang.
In short, he was in charge of espionage, domestic and overseas intelligence work for China. Jia was famous during his tenure for developing China’s “deep water fish” (Chendi yü) strategy of developing thousands of special agents on foreign soil.
Zhao was also a key figure for Biden prospects in China. His fund participated in BHR, where Hunter Biden received a board seat. The business that he co-founded with Jia Liqing, Harvest Global Investments, also figures in Deal #2.
DEAL #2: BURNHAM ASSET MANAGEMENT
Payout: $5 million
Hunter Biden had another company called Burnham Asset Management. According to court documents filed by disgruntled investors, Harvest Global wired Burnham $5 million.
The purpose of this payment is unclear, but it may have been intended as an investment in Hunter’s business.
According to emails obtained from Hunter Biden’s laptop, Zhao may have sent other money, too.
“Henry remains committed to also making something work with myself and Hunter outside of this Burnham matter as mentioned before,” business partner James Bulger wrote. “He has a few interesting ideas.”
Zhao had suggested to Hunter and his business partners that he would structure a deal they estimated would be “putting money directly into our pockets.”
DEAL #3: HUNTER TEAMS UP WITH CHINA’S ‘DRAGON HEAD’
Payout: $188,000+
Hunter Biden had co-founded a firm called Rosemont Realty, and as early as 2011, he was looking for a Chinese buyer.
Rosemont Realty owns commercial buildings around the United States.
He had little luck initially, but then he and his partners received an “unsolicited offer” from a Hong Kong-based firm called Gemini Investments to buy his firm.
What is Gemini? The company is controlled by something then called Sino-Ocean Land, which was also chaired by the head of China Ocean Shipping Corporation (COSCO).
Japanese government agencies report that “Chinese intelligence services are closely linked” to COSCO. Some scholars in the West refer to COSCO as the “fifth arm of the Chinese Navy.”
For his part, President Xi Jinping has called the company “the dragon’s head for China” because of its strategic activities in Europe.
Hunter worked even more closely with COSCO in an attempt to buy the Greek national railway.
How much has Hunter Biden made from the Chinese deal that took over Rosemont Realty? It is impossible to know. But emails reveal at least one payment of approximately $188,000 from Rosemont Realty to Hunter Biden.
He also retained his stake in the company after the Chinese leadership took over.
DEAL #4: CEFC CHINA ENERGY
Payout: $6 million
Ye Jianming, a wealthy Chinese businessman and the head of CEFC China Energy, provided $6 million to the Biden family, according to a Senate investigation into Hunter’s activities.
In early 2017, one month after his father left office as vice president, Hunter Biden worked for Ye as a counselor and adviser, and Joe Biden’s brother James received some of the funds that Ye transferred to Hunter.
Five million came in the form of a forgivable, interest-free loan. Ethically, a loan is worse than a cash gift for a politician’s family, because the loan giver can always demand their money back if the recipient of the funds is not doing as they like.
Who exactly is Ye?
Ye Jianming once served in a leadership position within the China Association for International Friendly Contact (CAIFC), which is funded directly by Chinese military intelligence.
CEFC’s corporate documents confirm its self-perceived role in advancing China’s national energy strategy. Ye Jianming’s close relationship with both the Chinese military intelligence apparatus and the government cannot be overstated.
DEAL #5: CEFC’s PATRICK HO
Payout: $1 million
Hunter Biden received even more money in his relationship with CEFC and Ye Jianming.
In 2017, one of Ye Jianming’s “top lieutenants,” Patrick Ho, was arrested on bribery charges by the FBI for offering money to African officials in exchange for energy deals.
He immediately called James Biden, Joe Biden’s brother, looking for Hunter Biden.
Hunter was soon hired by CEFC to be Patrick Ho’s defense attorney despite his little experience in criminal defense. CEFC paid Hunter a $1 million fee. Hunter referred to Patrick Ho as “the f–ing spy chief of China,” according to leaked audio obtained by RealClearPolitics.
These deals are disturbing enough, and are exacerbated by the fact that every one of them was made possible by an individual with ties that sometimes went to the highest levels of Chinese intelligence.
But there is also the curious fact that in 2014, Hunter Biden took the unusual step of telling the Secret Service that he did not want protection when he traveled overseas. The request happened shortly after he began securing deals in Beijing.
Money that Hunter Biden received from his overseas deals flowed to other members of the Biden family.
Joe Biden’s brother James received over $1 million originating from the spy-connected Ye, according to a US Senate investigation.
In a text to his daughter, Hunter Biden insinuated that he was giving half his salary to “pop.” This is more than hyperbole.
Email records back him up to the extent that they show Hunter’s businesses paying some of his father’s bills while he was vice president of the United States. This means that Joe Biden benefited from these financial deals that happened courtesy of executives linked to Chinese spies.
Americans deserve answers as to why the Bidens received some $31 million and what promises or influence it bought. If Washington is to restore what’s left of its credibility, Congress must launch wide-ranging and serious investigations into the Biden family’s China cash haul and the resultant national security implications.
Peter Schweizer is the author of the new book “Red-Handed: How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win.”
https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/chines...nd-the-bidens/
- Salty Again
- 04-22-2023, 11:17 PM
... Crikey! ... That's just what has been revealed
to THIS point.
How much MORE will we see? ...
... 
#### Salty
to THIS point.
How much MORE will we see? ...
... #### Salty
- Precious_b
- 04-23-2023, 01:37 PM
Ohh. They can get him for not reporting income on his taxes!
Another soft throw that the righties seem to be missing with a whiffle bat.
Another soft throw that the righties seem to be missing with a whiffle bat.